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  • St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,660
    mrussel1 said:
    Was the product inferior before Omnicron?  If you say yes, you better have some really strong data to back up such a statement.  And also tell us about the superior product comparatively. 
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  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Don't covid patients or those with covid have to be isolated and as such, it puts additional constraints on hospital bed capacities, resources and impacts staffing issues?

    Absolutely having covid + patients in hospital, even if they are not severely ill, puts an additional strain on resources of all types, from physical space to PPE to availability of staff. Plus dealing with the isolation protocols for covid + patients takes an enormous amount of time, donning and doffing the PPE, which shouldn't be underestimated when looking at staffing. Higher numbers of covid positive patients also mean a higher likelihood that health care staff will be infected, which then leads to time of work, whether briefly (if they are self-isolating) or a much longer period of time if they become sick and major impacts on staffing. 
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  • Posts: 30,963
    AW124797 said:
    I know and I'm happy too, but can't force unfinished product on everybody. Freedom of choice.
    Other than all the data that shows the amazing efficacy at preventing hospitalization and death, and for the two original rampant variants, the efficacy at preventing the disease, you're right.  It's unfinished.  Eyeroll.  See these comments continue to reinforce why you couldn't understand that Fox interview.  
  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,719
    OnWis97 said:
    Freedom.
    i have basically been defending all of my poor health choices with an even dumber version. "freeduh".
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    edited January 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    Other than all the data that shows the amazing efficacy at preventing hospitalization and death, and for the two original rampant variants, the efficacy at preventing the disease, you're right.  It's unfinished.  Eyeroll.  See these comments continue to reinforce why you couldn't understand that Fox interview.  
    Data? "The amazing efficacy" and record breaking cases globally as we speak. You're right. Eyeroll and a wink. 
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  • Posts: 45,038
     
    interesting this thought of unfinished product.

    vax was developed on the earlier 2 strains at that time. found to be equally effective on the first varients.5 months in to available vax,  delta arrives, still effective.

    then omicron with 52? variations attached to include cold virus dna?

    seems to me that the cold virus dna is whats key here. how the fuck can you expect these companies to foresee the exact combination of variations?

    the good news is with mrna its more easily adaptable, the bad news is it takes time to produce and distribute at scale.

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  • Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    AW124797 said:
    I know and I'm happy too, but can't force unfinished product on everybody. Freedom of choice.
    At what point would you consider a vaccine "finished", then, when many infectious agents mutate.
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  • Posts: 30,963
    AW124797 said:
    Data? "The amazing efficacy" and record breaking cases globally as we speak. You're right. Eyeroll and a wink. 
    I guess mutation is a foreign concept to you.  There's a reason why year 2 of the Spanish Flu pandemic was far more deadly than year one.  There's a reason why the flu shot is changed every year, as the virus mutates.  These are not radical concepts for those of us that pay attention. 
  • Winnipeg Posts: 39,969
    AW124797 said:
    Inferior to any other vaccine on the market. Besides flu vaccine, of course.
    so if have to survive on only available food like potato chips and coke, I should...starve, because they are inferior to vegetables?
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  • Posts: 30,963
    Why bother?
    Great point and good question
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    so if have to survive on only available food like potato chips and coke, I should...starve, because they are inferior to vegetables?
    Potato chips are a vegetable
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  • Posts: 30,963
    Poncier said:
    Potato chips are a vegetable
    THANK YOU!  I've been arguing this with my wife for years.  Anything I can put on a salad is a vegetable,  including steak. 
  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,719
    mrussel1 said:
    THANK YOU!  I've been arguing this with my wife for years.  Anything I can put on a salad is a vegetable,  including steak. 
    this means ranch is a vegetable!!! best news i have heard all week!!!!!!!!
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    mrussel1 said:
    THANK YOU!  I've been arguing this with my wife for years.  Anything I can put on a salad is a vegetable,  including steak. 

    beef eats grass, grains... its plant based.
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  • Posts: 9,478
    Inferior product? The one that has saved hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives?

    What kind of fantasy are people living in here?

    I just can't even wrap my head around.the ignorance. 
  • Posts: 30,963
    this means ranch is a vegetable!!! best news i have heard all week!!!!!!!!
    mickeyrat said:

    beef eats grass, grains... its plant based.
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    I love this place.  It affirms my faith in humans

    We even had a repub president, Ronnie Rayguns, declare ketchup as a vegetable. 
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    We even had a repub president, Ronnie Rayguns, declare ketchup as a vegetable. 

    which is dumb. tomatoes  are fruit
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