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mrussel1 said:Was the product inferior before Omnicron? If you say yes, you better have some really strong data to back up such a statement. And also tell us about the superior product comparatively.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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Halifax2TheMax said:Don't covid patients or those with covid have to be isolated and as such, it puts additional constraints on hospital bed capacities, resources and impacts staffing issues?
Absolutely having covid + patients in hospital, even if they are not severely ill, puts an additional strain on resources of all types, from physical space to PPE to availability of staff. Plus dealing with the isolation protocols for covid + patients takes an enormous amount of time, donning and doffing the PPE, which shouldn't be underestimated when looking at staffing. Higher numbers of covid positive patients also mean a higher likelihood that health care staff will be infected, which then leads to time of work, whether briefly (if they are self-isolating) or a much longer period of time if they become sick and major impacts on staffing.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
AW124797 said:I know and I'm happy too, but can't force unfinished product on everybody. Freedom of choice.0
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OnWis97 said:Freedom."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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mrussel1 said:Other than all the data that shows the amazing efficacy at preventing hospitalization and death, and for the two original rampant variants, the efficacy at preventing the disease, you're right. It's unfinished. Eyeroll. See these comments continue to reinforce why you couldn't understand that Fox interview.Post edited by AW124797 on0
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interesting this thought of unfinished product.vax was developed on the earlier 2 strains at that time. found to be equally effective on the first varients.5 months in to available vax, delta arrives, still effective.then omicron with 52? variations attached to include cold virus dna?seems to me that the cold virus dna is whats key here. how the fuck can you expect these companies to foresee the exact combination of variations?the good news is with mrna its more easily adaptable, the bad news is it takes time to produce and distribute at scale.
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AW124797 said:I know and I'm happy too, but can't force unfinished product on everybody. Freedom of choice.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0
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AW124797 said:Data? "The amazing efficacy" and record breaking cases globally as we speak. You're right. Eyeroll and a wink.0
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AW124797 said:Inferior to any other vaccine on the market. Besides flu vaccine, of course.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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Halifax2TheMax said:Why bother?0
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HughFreakingDillon said:so if have to survive on only available food like potato chips and coke, I should...starve, because they are inferior to vegetables?This weekend we rock Portland0
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Poncier said:Potato chips are a vegetable0
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N.B. premier calls Quebec financial penalty for unvaccinated adults a 'slippery slope'
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mrussel1 said:THANK YOU! I've been arguing this with my wife for years. Anything I can put on a salad is a vegetable, including steak."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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mrussel1 said:THANK YOU! I've been arguing this with my wife for years. Anything I can put on a salad is a vegetable, including steak.
beef eats grass, grains... its plant based.
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Inferior product? The one that has saved hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives?
What kind of fantasy are people living in here?
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gimmesometruth27 said:this means ranch is a vegetable!!! best news i have heard all week!!!!!!!!mickeyrat said:
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Halifax2TheMax said:We even had a repub president, Ronnie Rayguns, declare ketchup as a vegetable.
which is dumb. tomatoes are fruit
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