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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    mace1229 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i have a feeling this ends in a hung jury. 

    it has been too politicized and people's opinions are too deeply entrenched for 12 people to be objective about it.
    very possible...I can't imagine all 12 agreeing to even reckless endangerment
    If thats the case, is the whole trial a hung jury, or just the charges they don't agree on?
    i believe they can be hung on some charges and they can convict or acquit on others.

    the problem is if the jury hangs on all of them he cannot be tried again.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    the defense asked judge for a mistrial without prejudice today and the judge did not rule on it. jury is back in the courtroom now viewing the drone video. this smarmy ass judge may rule a mistrial before a verdict is reached. i do not trust him at all.
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  • lindamarie73
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    myoung321 said:
    Guess I'm just lucky, not once did any my kids ask to be dropped off at a protest...in the next state.. with an AR15... 

    But this guys Mom took him?  seriously...wtf?
    You do realize his Mom did NOT drop him off in Kenosha?   I know it sounds great for the overall agenda w/ this trail,  but this is a perfect example of Fake news.  Congrats 
  • Ledbetterman10
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    edited November 2021
    I think he should be acquitted. The homicide charges. And that’s despite the fact that I think he’s a dangerous moron that went there hoping for a reason to use the gun. I don’t think the defense’s reasoning for him being there are good. Protecting businesses? Fuck off. That’s for the cops to do. But the charges here relate to whether or not, when he shot those three guys, was he acting on self-defense. And the prosecution didn’t prove he wasn’t. 

    The prosecution can say he went there to put himself in a situation where he’d be forced to act in self-defense (which I believe), but in the actual moments of the shootings, which is what the charges relate to, legally, the self-defense argument is gonna win out over the prosecution’s arguments. 

    The jury wasn’t sequestered so they know the national guard is outside anticipating riots if he’s found not guilty. If I was on the jury, I’d convict the him just based on that. I don’t need them burning down my house. 
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  • JB16057
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the defense asked judge for a mistrial without prejudice today and the judge did not rule on it. jury is back in the courtroom now viewing the drone video. this smarmy ass judge may rule a mistrial before a verdict is reached. i do not trust him at all.
    But you trust the prosecution? They withheld the high resolution video from the defense. This trial should be over.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the defense asked judge for a mistrial without prejudice today and the judge did not rule on it. jury is back in the courtroom now viewing the drone video. this smarmy ass judge may rule a mistrial before a verdict is reached. i do not trust him at all.
    But you trust the prosecution? They withheld the high resolution video from the defense. This trial should be over.
    defense had an android not airdrop. the state airdropped the videos to the defense. defense should have made sure the shit was compatible. it is their client facing jail, correct?
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
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  • mickeyrat
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    umm, article I read said that same hi res video was shown during trial to jury. defense had opportunity THEN to object and make a motion. they did not. now that we are more than a day in and jury wants to review they object? fuck that. they know its bad.
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the defense asked judge for a mistrial without prejudice today and the judge did not rule on it. jury is back in the courtroom now viewing the drone video. this smarmy ass judge may rule a mistrial before a verdict is reached. i do not trust him at all.
    But you trust the prosecution? They withheld the high resolution video from the defense. This trial should be over.

     
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  • mace1229
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i have a feeling this ends in a hung jury. 

    it has been too politicized and people's opinions are too deeply entrenched for 12 people to be objective about it.
    very possible...I can't imagine all 12 agreeing to even reckless endangerment
    If thats the case, is the whole trial a hung jury, or just the charges they don't agree on?
    i believe they can be hung on some charges and they can convict or acquit on others.

    the problem is if the jury hangs on all of them he cannot be tried again.
    Pretty sure if they hang on all charges he can be tried again, that would be up to the DA or prosecution.
  • JB16057
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    mickeyrat said:
    umm, article I read said that same hi res video was shown during trial to jury. defense had opportunity THEN to object and make a motion. they did not. now that we are more than a day in and jury wants to review they object? fuck that. they know its bad.
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the defense asked judge for a mistrial without prejudice today and the judge did not rule on it. jury is back in the courtroom now viewing the drone video. this smarmy ass judge may rule a mistrial before a verdict is reached. i do not trust him at all.
    But you trust the prosecution? They withheld the high resolution video from the defense. This trial should be over.

     
    Can you share that article here?

  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
    Self defense is still self defense no matter which judge is presiding.

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,767
    JB16057 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    umm, article I read said that same hi res video was shown during trial to jury. defense had opportunity THEN to object and make a motion. they did not. now that we are more than a day in and jury wants to review they object? fuck that. they know its bad.
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    the defense asked judge for a mistrial without prejudice today and the judge did not rule on it. jury is back in the courtroom now viewing the drone video. this smarmy ass judge may rule a mistrial before a verdict is reached. i do not trust him at all.
    But you trust the prosecution? They withheld the high resolution video from the defense. This trial should be over.

     
    Can you share that article here?


     https://apnews.com/article/kyle-rittenhouse-wisconsin-homicide-kenosha-0e4b6ad5a286af9ddbb8c8546550f1dc

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
    Self defense is still self defense no matter which judge is presiding.

    the key is going to be the first victim. the 2nd hit him with the skateboard. the first did not and he was unarmed. kyle knows he was unarmed and he shot him 4 times. if you have an ar-15 and someone is unarmed, how is your life in danger? the crowd came after him after the first victim because he was an active shooter that just shot and killed someone.

    you cannot claim self defense if your actions put you in the position to need to use deadly force. the prosecutor argued that beautifully.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
    Self defense is still self defense no matter which judge is presiding.

    if you have an ar-15 and someone is unarmed, how is your life in danger?


    Rosenbaum was verbally threatening to kill Rittenhouse. Rosenbaum lunged after Rittenhouse's gun to do just that. Rosenbaum was a threat to Rittenhouse(and the rest of the world I might add). I feel bad for the last 2 that were shot because maybe they did just assume they were trying to disarm a shooter but none of them should've been there in the first place.

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,405
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
    Self defense is still self defense no matter which judge is presiding.

    if you have an ar-15 and someone is unarmed, how is your life in danger?


    Rosenbaum was verbally threatening to kill Rittenhouse. Rosenbaum lunged after Rittenhouse's gun to do just that. Rosenbaum was a threat to Rittenhouse(and the rest of the world I might add). I feel bad for the last 2 that were shot because maybe they did just assume they were trying to disarm a shooter but none of them should've been there in the first place.

    rosenbaum was a threat to the rest of the world?

    ok i am done here.
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
    Self defense is still self defense no matter which judge is presiding.

    if you have an ar-15 and someone is unarmed, how is your life in danger?


    Rosenbaum was verbally threatening to kill Rittenhouse. Rosenbaum lunged after Rittenhouse's gun to do just that. Rosenbaum was a threat to Rittenhouse(and the rest of the world I might add). I feel bad for the last 2 that were shot because maybe they did just assume they were trying to disarm a shooter but none of them should've been there in the first place.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
    Self defense is still self defense no matter which judge is presiding.

    if you have an ar-15 and someone is unarmed, how is your life in danger?


    Rosenbaum was verbally threatening to kill Rittenhouse. Rosenbaum lunged after Rittenhouse's gun to do just that. Rosenbaum was a threat to Rittenhouse(and the rest of the world I might add). I feel bad for the last 2 that were shot because maybe they did just assume they were trying to disarm a shooter but none of them should've been there in the first place.

    rosenbaum was a threat to the rest of the world?

    ok i am done here.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    lindamarie73 said:
    myoung321 said:
    Guess I'm just lucky, not once did any my kids ask to be dropped off at a protest...in the next state.. with an AR15... 

    But this guys Mom took him?  seriously...wtf?
    You do realize his Mom did NOT drop him off in Kenosha?   I know it sounds great for the overall agenda w/ this trail,  but this is a perfect example of Fake news.  Congrats 
    agenda. hahaha. the politicizing of this by the usual suspects is disgusting, yet unsurprising. 
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
    Self defense is still self defense no matter which judge is presiding.

    if you have an ar-15 and someone is unarmed, how is your life in danger?


    Rosenbaum was verbally threatening to kill Rittenhouse. Rosenbaum lunged after Rittenhouse's gun to do just that. Rosenbaum was a threat to Rittenhouse(and the rest of the world I might add). I feel bad for the last 2 that were shot because maybe they did just assume they were trying to disarm a shooter but none of them should've been there in the first place.

    rosenbaum was a threat to the rest of the world?

    ok i am done here.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    JB16057 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    maybe a mistrial and retrial in front of a less prejudiced judge would be better for everyone.
    Self defense is still self defense no matter which judge is presiding.

    if you have an ar-15 and someone is unarmed, how is your life in danger?


    Rosenbaum was verbally threatening to kill Rittenhouse. Rosenbaum lunged after Rittenhouse's gun to do just that. Rosenbaum was a threat to Rittenhouse(and the rest of the world I might add). I feel bad for the last 2 that were shot because maybe they did just assume they were trying to disarm a shooter but none of them should've been there in the first place.

    rosenbaum was a threat to the rest of the world?

    ok i am done here.
    Do you always defend sexual predators that anally rape 5 boys aged 9-11? https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections.gov/PrintInmate.aspx?ID=172556

    I'm sorry but I don't have any respect for sexual predators.


    do you always radically over dramatize situations like this? obviously gimme wasn't defending him. saying he was a threat to 7 billion people is ludicrous. 
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