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  • Indifference
    Indifference Posts: 2,759
    From 2015 to August 31, 2021, a vaccine was defined as “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the individual from that disease.” “And vaccination was “the act of introducing a vaccine.” body to generate immunity to a specific disease.”

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    China's COVID-19 outbreak developing rapidly, health official says



    It’s the gift from China that just keeps on giving…


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  • i_lov_it
    i_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    Just say no to the Covid Clot Shots and end this monumental scam


  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Ruh-roh!
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    The fucking stupidity is overwhelming.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    i_lov_it said:
    Just say no to the Covid Clot Shots and end this monumental scam


    So, at this point, a year and a half in, there are millions dead from CoVID (excess deaths - as in not statistically able to be explained). There are clear indications that getting the vaccine reduces the likelihood of becoming severely ill. In October 2021 if you're still calling CoVID a scam and the vaccine political and/or dangerous, you're just being wilfully ignorant.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Organizer of fully vaccinated Ontario hockey league where COVID-19 outbreak hit looks for answers


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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,230
    I don’t know where we go from here in NYC. The trash is piling up, fire houses are shutting down, police force is short handed. Why can’t the unvaccinated just be subjected to weekly testing? These are essential services, especially in the city. And we are seeing the consequences. The mayor and governor are not affected by these consequences. Thousands of flights cancelled again this weekend because of “worker shortages”. These are not professions that we can just fill with random vaccinated people. We’re at a stand still here with vaccine progress. I think it’s time to let this go honestly. This year somehow feels worse than last year around me personally. Crazy times. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,230
    edited October 2021
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
    Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. What good is that if more people lose their lives because of slow response times and less cops? Aren’t we trying to save lives? It’s just an endless loop of political nonsense. There are less ambulances out as well because of EMTs that are holding out. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
    Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. 
    I think that's reasonable.  Is the NYC rule already in effect, so that these civil workers have already left the job?
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,230
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
    Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. 
    I think that's reasonable.  Is the NYC rule already in effect, so that these civil workers have already left the job?
    It’s in effect. I’m hoping this is just a temporary gap of waiting for them to get the jab then get back to work. If it stays like this, we’re in trouble here. There’s garbage everywhere and response times are suffering. Apparently 26 firehouses shut down as well around NYC. Again, I hope this is temporary. All
    i know is none of this is helping change the mind of the unvaccinated. It’s actually doing the opposite.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,230
    If we start to lose people being on board with the vaccination then this will all be for nothing. If people don’t get boosters or an annual shot or  whatever will be recommended, then what? I’m not here arguing agenda or science. I’m just coming from a real place of seeing what’s going on around me and getting a little concerned. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,788
    nicknyr15 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
    Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. 
    I think that's reasonable.  Is the NYC rule already in effect, so that these civil workers have already left the job?
    It’s in effect. I’m hoping this is just a temporary gap of waiting for them to get the jab then get back to work. If it stays like this, we’re in trouble here. There’s garbage everywhere and response times are suffering. Apparently 26 firehouses shut down as well around NYC. Again, I hope this is temporary. All
    i know is none of this is helping change the mind of the unvaccinated. It’s actually doing the opposite.
    The NY Post article reporting 26 firehouses being “out of service” or “shuttered” also included the following:

    “Fire Commissioner Daniel A. Nigro said the department “has not closed any firehouses“

    “Irresponsible bogus sick leave by some of our members is creating a danger for New Yorkers and their fellow Firefighters,” Nigro said. “They need to return to work or risk the consequences of their actions.”

    https://nypost.com/2021/10/30/fdny-firehouses-shuttered-over-vaccine-staffing-shortages/
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    nicknyr15 said:
    If we start to lose people being on board with the vaccination then this will all be for nothing. If people don’t get boosters or an annual shot or  whatever will be recommended, then what? I’m not here arguing agenda or science. I’m just coming from a real place of seeing what’s going on around me and getting a little concerned. 
    As the treatments continue to improve,  I think vax requirements will become unnecessary. The parallels with the influenza pandemic of 1918 are pretty clear I think. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
    Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. What good is that if more people lose their lives because of slow response times and less cops? Aren’t we trying to save lives? It’s just an endless loop of political nonsense. There are less ambulances out as well because of EMTs that are holding out. 
    Why can’t it be both? My employer requires fully vaxxed and testing, the number of which is determined by the number of days you’re in the office. Not fully vaxxed? Put on unpaid administrative leave and termination process starts. 99.2% are fully vaxxed. What is so hard about this? The cops can go work in Flo Rida and get a $5K bonus from Deathsantis. Choices, isn’t America great?

    Its an endless loop of selfishness.
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  • nicknyr15
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
    Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. What good is that if more people lose their lives because of slow response times and less cops? Aren’t we trying to save lives? It’s just an endless loop of political nonsense. There are less ambulances out as well because of EMTs that are holding out. 
    Why can’t it be both? My employer requires fully vaxxed and testing, the number of which is determined by the number of days you’re in the office. Not fully vaxxed? Put on unpaid administrative leave and termination process starts. 99.2% are fully vaxxed. What is so hard about this? The cops can go work in Flo Rida and get a $5K bonus from Deathsantis. Choices, isn’t America great?

    Its an endless loop of selfishness.
    Cool story! You don’t like it move to another state! Great solution. While the politicians and unvaccinated have a standoff, tons of people are put in harms way so both sides could prove a point. Not sure what you do for a living but do peoples lives depend on your profession? 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,230
    mrussel1 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    If we start to lose people being on board with the vaccination then this will all be for nothing. If people don’t get boosters or an annual shot or  whatever will be recommended, then what? I’m not here arguing agenda or science. I’m just coming from a real place of seeing what’s going on around me and getting a little concerned. 
    As the treatments continue to improve,  I think vax requirements will become unnecessary. The parallels with the influenza pandemic of 1918 are pretty clear I think. 
    I was thinking/hoping the same. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,813
    Just get the vaccine.  Not that tough.  If they have an actual reason that they cannot then they can deal with whatever special measures/testing needs to be taken


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  • Merkin Baller
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    I mean… if you’re committed to public safety it’s kind of a no brainer to get the vaccine. 
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