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Not quite the same though is it? Dems condemned the attack of five years ago and I haven’t heard Ted Crud condemn this one. Maybe he has and you could link me to it?HughFreakingDillon said:keep movin' them goalposts.
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Sure.Halifax2TheMax said:
Who cares? Seems you do enough to add little to the conversation. Seems relevant in light of 1/6 and the current repub party stoking violence. Maybe you should move in from that gun violence “crisis” in your city? Enough already, who cares, right?nicknyr15 said:
Jeez dude admit defeat and move on. Who cares. Enough already.Halifax2TheMax said:
Okay, from five years ago and it was publicly condemned by the dem party. Second time the one in Tejas was attacked in a year and I can’t seem to find the repub condemnation of either. Help convince me it’s same-same.mickeyrat said:
https://people.com/crime/north-carolina-republican-party-headquarters-firebombed/Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone recall the last time a repub party headquarters was firebombed like what happened to a dem party headquarters in Tejas last night? It is Tejas after all but still. Anyone?0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:
Okay, from five years ago and it was publicly condemned by the dem party. Second time the one in Tejas was attacked in a year and I can’t seem to find the repub condemnation of either. Help convince me it’s same-same.mickeyrat said:
https://people.com/crime/north-carolina-republican-party-headquarters-firebombed/Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone recall the last time a repub party headquarters was firebombed like what happened to a dem party headquarters in Tejas last night? It is Tejas after all but still. Anyone?
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Yes you did, thank you.mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Okay, from five years ago and it was publicly condemned by the dem party. Second time the one in Tejas was attacked in a year and I can’t seem to find the repub condemnation of either. Help convince me it’s same-same.mickeyrat said:
https://people.com/crime/north-carolina-republican-party-headquarters-firebombed/Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone recall the last time a repub party headquarters was firebombed like what happened to a dem party headquarters in Tejas last night? It is Tejas after all but still. Anyone?
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Halifax2TheMax said:
Yes you did, thank you.mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:
Okay, from five years ago and it was publicly condemned by the dem party. Second time the one in Tejas was attacked in a year and I can’t seem to find the repub condemnation of either. Help convince me it’s same-same.mickeyrat said:
https://people.com/crime/north-carolina-republican-party-headquarters-firebombed/Halifax2TheMax said:Can anyone recall the last time a repub party headquarters was firebombed like what happened to a dem party headquarters in Tejas last night? It is Tejas after all but still. Anyone?
I'm not. you asked. I answered.
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ohh this motherfuckerMcConnell says he won't help Dems raise debt limit againBy ALAN FRAM57 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Friday that he would not again help Democrats extend the government's borrowing authority, raising fresh doubts about how Congress will avert a federal default when a temporary patch expires in December.
McConnell issued his warning in a letter to President Joe Biden a day after the Senate approved a $480 billion boost in the federal debt limit, enough to last about two months. In an eleventh-hour turnabout, the Kentucky Republican was among 11 GOP senators who provided decisive support Thursday for a procedural move that opened the door for subsequent Senate passage of that measure with only Democratic support.
Some GOP senators criticized their leaders not holding out longer against Democrats' efforts to extend the debt limit, which they said would have sharpened their message that a still-developing multibillion-dollar package of Biden's top domestic priorities is wasteful and damaging to the economy.
McConnell said Friday that he made his decision to refuse future help because of his opposition to the huge domestic bill and because of a “bizarre spectacle" on the Senate floor by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. After the bill passed, Schumer criticized Republicans for trying to push the country over “the cliff's edge" by opposing the debt limit extension.
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mickeyrat said:ohh this motherfuckerMcConnell says he won't help Dems raise debt limit againBy ALAN FRAM57 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Friday that he would not again help Democrats extend the government's borrowing authority, raising fresh doubts about how Congress will avert a federal default when a temporary patch expires in December.
McConnell issued his warning in a letter to President Joe Biden a day after the Senate approved a $480 billion boost in the federal debt limit, enough to last about two months. In an eleventh-hour turnabout, the Kentucky Republican was among 11 GOP senators who provided decisive support Thursday for a procedural move that opened the door for subsequent Senate passage of that measure with only Democratic support.
Some GOP senators criticized their leaders not holding out longer against Democrats' efforts to extend the debt limit, which they said would have sharpened their message that a still-developing multibillion-dollar package of Biden's top domestic priorities is wasteful and damaging to the economy.
McConnell said Friday that he made his decision to refuse future help because of his opposition to the huge domestic bill and because of a “bizarre spectacle" on the Senate floor by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. After the bill passed, Schumer criticized Republicans for trying to push the country over “the cliff's edge" by opposing the debt limit extension.
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He is a motherfucker. He shouldn't have agreed to raise the debt limit in the first place. This country can not continue to increase the debt like it is. I blame the Rs just as much as the Ds. I am not happy that Trump did such a shitty job on the same issue but it didn't surprise me on his track record with bankruptcies yet he still lives in mansions. Government spending is out of control. Biden continues on about how his $3.5 trillion plan is free but that's a bunch of bullshit. Money is not free. Inflation is over the roof and we can not afford to keep doing this.0 -
you are aware that raising the debt ceiling is how we pay down debt that has already been borrowed, right?JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:ohh this motherfuckerMcConnell says he won't help Dems raise debt limit againBy ALAN FRAM57 mins agoWASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Friday that he would not again help Democrats extend the government's borrowing authority, raising fresh doubts about how Congress will avert a federal default when a temporary patch expires in December.
McConnell issued his warning in a letter to President Joe Biden a day after the Senate approved a $480 billion boost in the federal debt limit, enough to last about two months. In an eleventh-hour turnabout, the Kentucky Republican was among 11 GOP senators who provided decisive support Thursday for a procedural move that opened the door for subsequent Senate passage of that measure with only Democratic support.
Some GOP senators criticized their leaders not holding out longer against Democrats' efforts to extend the debt limit, which they said would have sharpened their message that a still-developing multibillion-dollar package of Biden's top domestic priorities is wasteful and damaging to the economy.
McConnell said Friday that he made his decision to refuse future help because of his opposition to the huge domestic bill and because of a “bizarre spectacle" on the Senate floor by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. After the bill passed, Schumer criticized Republicans for trying to push the country over “the cliff's edge" by opposing the debt limit extension.
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He is a motherfucker. He shouldn't have agreed to raise the debt limit in the first place. This country can not continue to increase the debt like it is. I blame the Rs just as much as the Ds. I am not happy that Trump did such a shitty job on the same issue but it didn't surprise me on his track record with bankruptcies yet he still lives in mansions. Government spending is out of control. Biden continues on about how his $3.5 trillion plan is free but that's a bunch of bullshit. Money is not free. Inflation is over the roof and we can not afford to keep doing this.
if we default and do not pay our debts it could plunge us back into a recession, tank the economy, and damage our credit as a nation again. but let's not for one minute think that this is not the gop plan the whole time. they do it every fucking time they are in the minority.
i am fine with mcconnell burning it all down. we can then run and tattoo the gop as the party of default.
the dems could get rid of the debt ceiling altogether legally but for some reason they will not do it.
since the gop are destined to be a forever minority party with the way elections are going, it would be wise for mcconnell to avoid getting labeled the party of default. he capitulated when the dems started threatening to blow up the filibuster. start fucking with minority party procedural perks and watch how fast mcconnell will play ball.
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gimmesometruth27 said:
you are aware that raising the debt ceiling is how we pay down debt that has already been borrowed, right?JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:ohh this motherfuckerMcConnell says he won't help Dems raise debt limit againBy ALAN FRAM57 mins agoWASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Friday that he would not again help Democrats extend the government's borrowing authority, raising fresh doubts about how Congress will avert a federal default when a temporary patch expires in December.
McConnell issued his warning in a letter to President Joe Biden a day after the Senate approved a $480 billion boost in the federal debt limit, enough to last about two months. In an eleventh-hour turnabout, the Kentucky Republican was among 11 GOP senators who provided decisive support Thursday for a procedural move that opened the door for subsequent Senate passage of that measure with only Democratic support.
Some GOP senators criticized their leaders not holding out longer against Democrats' efforts to extend the debt limit, which they said would have sharpened their message that a still-developing multibillion-dollar package of Biden's top domestic priorities is wasteful and damaging to the economy.
McConnell said Friday that he made his decision to refuse future help because of his opposition to the huge domestic bill and because of a “bizarre spectacle" on the Senate floor by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. After the bill passed, Schumer criticized Republicans for trying to push the country over “the cliff's edge" by opposing the debt limit extension.
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He is a motherfucker. He shouldn't have agreed to raise the debt limit in the first place. This country can not continue to increase the debt like it is. I blame the Rs just as much as the Ds. I am not happy that Trump did such a shitty job on the same issue but it didn't surprise me on his track record with bankruptcies yet he still lives in mansions. Government spending is out of control. Biden continues on about how his $3.5 trillion plan is free but that's a bunch of bullshit. Money is not free. Inflation is over the roof and we can not afford to keep doing this.
if we default and do not pay our debts it could plunge us back into a recession, tank the economy, and damage our credit as a nation again. but let's not for one minute think that this is not the gop plan the whole time. they do it every fucking time they are in the minority.
i am fine with mcconnell burning it all down. we can then run and tattoo the gop as the party of default.
the dems could get rid of the debt ceiling altogether legally but for some reason they will not do it.
since the gop are destined to be a forever minority party with the way elections are going, it would be wise for mcconnell to avoid getting labeled the party of default. he capitulated when the dems started threatening to blow up the filibuster. start fucking with minority party procedural perks and watch how fast mcconnell will play ball.If raising the debt ceiling is how we pay down debt, why hasn't the debt been paid down? I get what you're saying but it has been quite some time since our leaders have made progress on paying down the debt. The debt can't keep going up and up forever. The US economy has been booming for years(minus COVID) but the debt was only increased. It isn't responsible and someday it's going to come crashing down one way or another. The more money our government prints, the more expensive everything will be. We need to get inflation under control before it gets out of hand. I don't blame Biden for inflation today but what is he doing about inflation tomorrow? He has over 3 more years and all I'm hearing is that he wants to spend more "free" money. I'd love to see how $3.5 trillion dollars is free money. Sure, tax the rich but the rich have money for a reason. The rich always have and always will find a way for the smaller guys to pay more.There will be consequences if the dems blow up the filibuster which is why they haven't done it. We'll see which side blinks first. Either way, things can not continue like they are today. Inflation is out of control. The stock market is hitting all time highs yet middle America is struggling and that's is getting worse every day.
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Is this what you said in 2017? Do you cut taxes and explode debt when you're in the longest bull run in history? I can tell you that I was/am completely against those irresponsible tax cuts that led to a GDP of less than 3 fucking percent.JB16057 said:gimmesometruth27 said:
you are aware that raising the debt ceiling is how we pay down debt that has already been borrowed, right?JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:ohh this motherfuckerMcConnell says he won't help Dems raise debt limit againBy ALAN FRAM57 mins agoWASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Friday that he would not again help Democrats extend the government's borrowing authority, raising fresh doubts about how Congress will avert a federal default when a temporary patch expires in December.
McConnell issued his warning in a letter to President Joe Biden a day after the Senate approved a $480 billion boost in the federal debt limit, enough to last about two months. In an eleventh-hour turnabout, the Kentucky Republican was among 11 GOP senators who provided decisive support Thursday for a procedural move that opened the door for subsequent Senate passage of that measure with only Democratic support.
Some GOP senators criticized their leaders not holding out longer against Democrats' efforts to extend the debt limit, which they said would have sharpened their message that a still-developing multibillion-dollar package of Biden's top domestic priorities is wasteful and damaging to the economy.
McConnell said Friday that he made his decision to refuse future help because of his opposition to the huge domestic bill and because of a “bizarre spectacle" on the Senate floor by Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. After the bill passed, Schumer criticized Republicans for trying to push the country over “the cliff's edge" by opposing the debt limit extension.
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He is a motherfucker. He shouldn't have agreed to raise the debt limit in the first place. This country can not continue to increase the debt like it is. I blame the Rs just as much as the Ds. I am not happy that Trump did such a shitty job on the same issue but it didn't surprise me on his track record with bankruptcies yet he still lives in mansions. Government spending is out of control. Biden continues on about how his $3.5 trillion plan is free but that's a bunch of bullshit. Money is not free. Inflation is over the roof and we can not afford to keep doing this.
if we default and do not pay our debts it could plunge us back into a recession, tank the economy, and damage our credit as a nation again. but let's not for one minute think that this is not the gop plan the whole time. they do it every fucking time they are in the minority.
i am fine with mcconnell burning it all down. we can then run and tattoo the gop as the party of default.
the dems could get rid of the debt ceiling altogether legally but for some reason they will not do it.
since the gop are destined to be a forever minority party with the way elections are going, it would be wise for mcconnell to avoid getting labeled the party of default. he capitulated when the dems started threatening to blow up the filibuster. start fucking with minority party procedural perks and watch how fast mcconnell will play ball.If raising the debt ceiling is how we pay down debt, why hasn't the debt been paid down? I get what you're saying but it has been quite some time since our leaders have made progress on paying down the debt. The debt can't keep going up and up forever. The US economy has been booming for years(minus COVID) but the debt was only increased. It isn't responsible and someday it's going to come crashing down one way or another. The more money our government prints, the more expensive everything will be. We need to get inflation under control before it gets out of hand. I don't blame Biden for inflation today but what is he doing about inflation tomorrow? He has over 3 more years and all I'm hearing is that he wants to spend more "free" money. I'd love to see how $3.5 trillion dollars is free money. Sure, tax the rich but the rich have money for a reason. The rich always have and always will find a way for the smaller guys to pay more.There will be consequences if the dems blow up the filibuster which is why they haven't done it. We'll see which side blinks first. Either way, things can not continue like they are today. Inflation is out of control. The stock market is hitting all time highs yet middle America is struggling and that's is getting worse every day.0 -
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mickeyrat said:2000- budget surplus. used to service debt.2001- 2008 tax cuts, rebates. enter 2 wars within 2 years unpaid for. deficit spending re-implemented.checks on irresponsible banking/finance practices dismantled2009-2016. deficit spending reduced, long slow climb out of great recession2017-2020 major tax cuts , deficit spending explodes, pandemic exacerbates spending
Almost some sort of pattern there, of course you could go back 80 to 2000 too and same pattern is true
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We need fiscally responsible leaders and we haven't had any for a very long time.mickeyrat said:2000- budget surplus. used to service debt.2001- 2008 tax cuts, rebates. enter 2 wars within 2 years unpaid for. deficit spending re-implemented.checks on irresponsible banking/finance practices dismantled2009-2016. deficit spending reduced, long slow climb out of great recession2017-2020 major tax cuts , deficit spending explodes, pandemic exacerbates spending
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mickeyrat said:Maher nailed it and yes, "it" does scare the shit out of me. We thought 2020 was a rough year?Man..."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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i haven't watched him in a long time. he is pretty on point here. and because we are democrats we will watch this slowly happen right in front of our eyes and not try to do anything about it until it is too late.mickeyrat said:
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gimmesometruth27 said:
i haven't watched him in a long time. he is pretty on point here. and because we are democrats we will watch this slowly happen right in front of our eyes and not try to do anything about it until it is too late.mickeyrat said:
every day that goes by that we do nothing about the insurrection and the big lie, the more true it becomes.I hate to say it... I mean I really hate to say it, but I can see this all unfolding in the coming years. Not too many years ago, I wouldn't have believed it. But after that last nearly 5 years of watching an ever increasing number of Americans turn in support of the most vapid, disgusting to hold a high level in office, it's gone beyond disbelief to near despair. Even if we somehow manage to avoid this potential disaster, those people will still be out there, and if they lose they will be more rabid than ever. I hate to sound so negative, but I don't see how this can turn out well, let alone anything but catastrophic. How in the holy hell, when we were once relatively great, did we get to this place?But we have to think beyond despair and act. All of us who cherishes the idea of a democratic society needs to show up in the coming years and at the very least vote these fuckers out. And we need to encourage moderates to fight back as well. I'm hoping moderate Republicans such as the Lincoln Project folks will work to stem the toxic tide of the far Trump right. And those of us who are Dems need to get our fellow Democrats to show up at every election."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
another problem is the gop is in lockstep. there are no moderate republicans. moderates are accused of being left wingers. the dems have people like andrew yang leaving the party to start a 3rd party that is only going to hurt democrats.brianlux said:gimmesometruth27 said:
i haven't watched him in a long time. he is pretty on point here. and because we are democrats we will watch this slowly happen right in front of our eyes and not try to do anything about it until it is too late.mickeyrat said:
every day that goes by that we do nothing about the insurrection and the big lie, the more true it becomes.I hate to say it... I mean I really hate to say it, but I can see this all unfolding in the coming years. Not too many years ago, I wouldn't have believed it. But after that last nearly 5 years of watching an ever increasing number of Americans turn in support of the most vapid, disgusting to hold a high level in office, it's gone beyond disbelief to near despair. Even if we somehow manage to avoid this potential disaster, those people will still be out there, and if they lose they will be more rabid than ever. I hate to sound so negative, but I don't see how this can turn out well, let alone anything but catastrophic. How in the holy hell, when we were once relatively great, did we get to this place?But we have to think beyond despair and act. All of us who cherishes the idea of a democratic society needs to show up in the coming years and at the very least vote these fuckers out. And we need to encourage moderates to fight back as well. I'm hoping moderate Republicans such as the Lincoln Project folks will work to stem the toxic tide of the far Trump right. And those of us who are Dems need to get our fellow Democrats to show up at every election.
i am so fucking angry that we worked so hard to defeat trump and the gop and 2 fucking democratic senators are standing in the way of sweeping legislation that could change the country for generations. and 2 fucking people are standing in the way of the will of the majority of americans. they are making the dems look weak. making biden look weak. and making trump look like a strongman. sadly, strongmen appeal to morons, which is why we see what we got on 1/6."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I fear that as far as the totalitarians are concerned, they speak in the language of punishment and stern penalties. If the non totalitarian party doesn’t speak to them in their language I fear that the extreme wing of the GOP will come sweeping into power. I don’t condone violence, but I really think playing hardball and winning is the only way to deal with this scourge. As we’ve seen the other side is not afraid to weaponize police and speak with targeted violence, especially when they are in power.I really worry that the moderates and Dems will wait until the first shot is fired before they start taking swift action and then it will potentially be too late. I just don’t see this extremism being voted away. Better make sure the family passports are up to date.Scio me nihil scire
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