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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    benjs said:
    Does anyone know whether this equipment had the ability to be remotely disabled? If not, that's a severe oversight on the development of military equipment. Even guns exist with fingerprint ID at this point, so the concept of preventative mechanisms on weaponry is hardly novel.
    Without spare parts, technical knowledge to maintain or use, not of much use. And there have been efforts to disable/destroy in place.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/31/no-taliban-did-not-seize-83-billion-us-weapons/
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    benjs said:
    Does anyone know whether this equipment had the ability to be remotely disabled? If not, that's a severe oversight on the development of military equipment. Even guns exist with fingerprint ID at this point, so the concept of preventative mechanisms on weaponry is hardly novel.
    I don't know but I'd doubt it. If the goal was to make the Afghan military independent, I'd imagine that the US would've given them control of everything. But maybe not....since the US military should've realized at some point how incompetent the Afghan military they trained was.

    According to the Times of London, it's 90 Billion Dollars worth of equipment. The Times article is behind a paywall, but Tucker Carlson recapped it in the first 1:14 of this video...

    https://youtu.be/viTax7XuszQ
    Fucker Carlson is full of shit. Not a word he spews has any basis in fact. Talk about fake news.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Could still be hundreds of Americans in Afghanistan according to the pentagon....

    Department of Defense Press Secretary John Kirby told MSNBC's Morning Joe co-host Willie Geist Tuesday that there could still be hundreds of Americans left in Afghanistan.

    "I don't think there's an exact figure, Willie," Kirby said. "We believe we got the vast, vast majority of American citizens out, something to the tune of 6,000 of them. And we think it's probably in the low hundreds that are still there. And there were also several hundred others that didn't want to leave."

    Pentagon Says There's No 'Exact Figure' on Number of Americans Left in Afghanistan (newsweek.com)

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  • Bentleyspop
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    Keep in mind a lot of what was given to the "Afghan Army" was surplus and therefore technologically antiquated. Eventually, without manuals, parts, and repair know how,, these things will be rusting hulks.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    Bentleyspop said:
    Keep in mind a lot of what was given to the "Afghan Army" was surplus and therefore technologically antiquated. Eventually, without manuals, parts, and repair know how,, these things will be rusting hulks.
    i remember as a kid seeing old photos of world war 2 fighters being crashed or wrecked, or scrapped and just sitting in people's farms in europe. i remember thinking how cool it must have been to sit in that cockpit as a kid and pretend like i was flying. kinda like snoopy vs the red baron.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,002
    edited August 2021
    Just imagine what we could have done here at home, just imagine. I mean the tax cuts could have been huger! And imagine all that graft, fraud and theft. By 'Muricans even. Imagine that?

    July 30, 2021 Quarterly Report to Congress (sigar.mil)

    July 30, 2021 Quarterly Report to Congress (sigar.mil)

    Update on withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan June 14, 2021 > U.S. Central Command > Press Release View (centcom.mil)
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Tell me why, again, we should have stayed? Sebastian Junger’s thoughts.

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  • The Juggler
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    edited August 2021
    jimjam1982 said:
    I mean the Taliban is flying around people hanging from helicopters we left them.  Seems like a bold move to say good work Biden.  Guess CNN isn't reporting that yet.
    @jimjam1982
    The fellow was apparently fixing a flag. 
    https://www.altnews.in/does-the-video-show-taliban-hanging-a-body-from-a-helicopter/

    You want CNN to report on flag maintenance by the Taliban? Why?


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  • Gern Blansten
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    Bbbbbbbbbbuuuuuuuutttttttt kill lists!!!

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/taliban-reportedly-struck-deal-u-181809067.html

    The Taliban reportedly struck a deal with U.S. to escort Americans to Kabul's airport. A U.S. defense official said 'it worked beautifully.'

    The Biden administration continually tried to assure Americans that the Taliban was cooperating with the U.S. during its withdrawal from Afghanistan over the last few weeks after the group took Kabul. Now, citing two U.S. defense officials, CNN reports that the U.S. military struck a deal with the Taliban that led to the latter escorting Americans to the gates of Hamid Karzai International Airport during that time.

    The plan was kept under wraps because Washington was concerned about how the Taliban would react to any publicity and because of security threats posed by the Islamic State in Afghanistan, the officials said. But the escort missions apparently happened "several times a day" throughout the evacuation process, and one official said the arrangement "worked beautifully." U.S. forces were reportedly able to observe the Americans who were accompanied by the Taliban approach the airport.

    While the strategy may have proved successful in several cases, there were still many reports of the Taliban blocking American citizens and Afghans who aided the U.S. military from getting into the airport. Per The New York Times, some evacuation hopefuls reported to U.S.-based relief organizations that members of the Taliban confiscated their American passports at checkpoints. Read more at CNN and The New York Times.

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  • gimmesometruth27
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    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
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  • tbergs
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    edited September 2021
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
    Yeah, but did he sniff or use 2 hands to take a drink of water? People would lose their shit if Don...er Joe, did that.

    Look, Biden isn't the best, but at least he isn't an unhinged ego maniac spewing made up bullshit about how great he is on a daily basis. If sleepy Joe is as bad as it gets, I'll gladly take it any day over coked out Donny diapers. 
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  • mickeyrat
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     War in Afghanistan
    Oct 7, 2001 - Aug 31, 2021
    2 trillion dollars
    7268 days
    $275,178,866.26 per day

    that was borrowed money

    Taliban is the governing power again ..

    and you cant put a price on the killed and wounded

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  • tempo_n_groove
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
    If Trump was still president the banter would be from the left and the leaving of Afghanistan would be labeled a disaster.

    At this point it is what it is to me and not throwing shade at anyone side or person.
  • Merkin Baller
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
    If Trump was still president the banter would be from the left and the leaving of Afghanistan would be labeled a disaster.

    At this point it is what it is to me and not throwing shade at anyone side or person.
    If we're going to talk hypothetical's, it's fair to assume that if Trump was still president it would be a much bigger disaster too. 
  • tempo_n_groove
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    Merkin Baller said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
    If Trump was still president the banter would be from the left and the leaving of Afghanistan would be labeled a disaster.

    At this point it is what it is to me and not throwing shade at anyone side or person.
    If we're going to talk hypothetical's, it's fair to assume that if Trump was still president it would be a much bigger disaster too. 
    lol that's not biased at all now?  Well maybe not.   
  • Merkin Baller
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
    If Trump was still president the banter would be from the left and the leaving of Afghanistan would be labeled a disaster.

    At this point it is what it is to me and not throwing shade at anyone side or person.
    If we're going to talk hypothetical's, it's fair to assume that if Trump was still president it would be a much bigger disaster too. 
    lol that's not biased at all now?  Well maybe not.   

    You began your comment w/ the premise "If trump was still president". Do you honestly not think he would have probably handled it worse if he were still in office right now? 



    Hypotheticals aside, I don't blame trump or Biden for this disaster. This was an American disaster, 20 years in the making. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    Merkin Baller said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
    If Trump was still president the banter would be from the left and the leaving of Afghanistan would be labeled a disaster.

    At this point it is what it is to me and not throwing shade at anyone side or person.
    If we're going to talk hypothetical's, it's fair to assume that if Trump was still president it would be a much bigger disaster too. 
    If stephen miller  was still running things none of those Afghans would have been allowed out. And certainly not allowed in the U.S.
  • Merkin Baller
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    Bentleyspop said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
    If Trump was still president the banter would be from the left and the leaving of Afghanistan would be labeled a disaster.

    At this point it is what it is to me and not throwing shade at anyone side or person.
    If we're going to talk hypothetical's, it's fair to assume that if Trump was still president it would be a much bigger disaster too. 
    If stephen miller  was still running things none of those Afghans would have been allowed out. And certainly not allowed in the U.S.

    One of trump's signature campaign platforms in 2016 was a ban on Muslims coming to this country... it's pretty f'ing wild how short our collective memory is. 
  • tempo_n_groove
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    Merkin Baller said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought biden gave a good speech today. 

    republicans criticized him for reading off of a teleprompter and for talking too loud.

    for fucks sakes. if he calmly read it, they would say he was sleepy joe.
    If Trump was still president the banter would be from the left and the leaving of Afghanistan would be labeled a disaster.

    At this point it is what it is to me and not throwing shade at anyone side or person.
    If we're going to talk hypothetical's, it's fair to assume that if Trump was still president it would be a much bigger disaster too. 
    lol that's not biased at all now?  Well maybe not.   

    You began your comment w/ the premise "If trump was still president". Do you honestly not think he would have probably handled it worse if he were still in office right now? 



    Hypotheticals aside, I don't blame trump or Biden for this disaster. This was an American disaster, 20 years in the making. 
    Same joint chiefs of staff no?

    It would be a mess no matter what IMO.  People have been trying to tame that region for years and it's changed very little.  well there was a brewery in Baghdad...

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