Police Reform (Please Don’t Call It Defund)

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  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    NYC... :plus_one:
    NYC social workers, not cops, will respond to most mental health calls | PIX11
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Congresswoman Cori Bush Introduces the People’s Response Act - Bold Legislation to Transform Public Safety | Congresswoman Cori Bush (house.gov)
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,612
    Yes police answering mental patients issues should be done away with or at least be the back up to social workers who can deal with these issues, it just gets problematic if there’s weapons involved so police should still be there when that happens..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2022

    “I’ve got it!” Cameron said. “He’s a cop!” The form the T-1000 would take for most of the movie was a Los Angeles police officer. This solved the storytelling dilemma Winston had raised and also gave Cameron an opportunity to underline a central theme in both of the Terminator movies – how people, especially those in violent jobs, like soldiers and cops, can become barbarized. “The  films are not really about the human race getting killed of by future machines. They’re about us losing touch with our own humanity and becoming machines, which allows us to kill and brutalize each other,” he says. “Cops think all non-cops as less than they are, stupid, weak, and evil. They dehumanize the people they are sworn to protect and desensitize themselves in order to do that job.”

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    reports are surfacing that the police that were ON SCENE and ENGAGED the Uvalde shooter BEFORE he entered the school, failed to enter the school, shaking in their boots, waiting for backup. 

    THEY SHOULD ALL LOSE THEIR JOBS AND PENSIONS. FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    reports are surfacing that the police that were ON SCENE and ENGAGED the Uvalde shooter BEFORE he entered the school, failed to enter the school, shaking in their boots, waiting for backup. 

    THEY SHOULD ALL LOSE THEIR JOBS AND PENSIONS. FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    apparently the thin blue line is cowering in a group outside the building while the shooter gets busy shooting on the inside.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    reports are surfacing that the police that were ON SCENE and ENGAGED the Uvalde shooter BEFORE he entered the school, failed to enter the school, shaking in their boots, waiting for backup. 

    THEY SHOULD ALL LOSE THEIR JOBS AND PENSIONS. FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    apparently the thin blue line is cowering in a group outside the building while the shooter gets busy shooting on the inside.
    one woman was trying to get the cops to go inside. they fucking CUFFED HER. when they released her, she jumped the fence, ran into the school, and saved her two kids on her own. 

    FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    I’ve been watching “we own this city” on HBO

    if it’s 1/10000 of a percent accurate (which it is) policing is messed up but we all know it anyway.

    im not offering any solutions, but it’s like that creepy uncle everyone has. He’s family, but everyone knows don’t be alone with him.  That’s how I see the police as an institution.  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    reports are surfacing that the police that were ON SCENE and ENGAGED the Uvalde shooter BEFORE he entered the school, failed to enter the school, shaking in their boots, waiting for backup. 

    THEY SHOULD ALL LOSE THEIR JOBS AND PENSIONS. FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    apparently the thin blue line is cowering in a group outside the building while the shooter gets busy shooting on the inside.
    one woman was trying to get the cops to go inside. they fucking CUFFED HER. when they released her, she jumped the fence, ran into the school, and saved her two kids on her own. 

    FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    what exactly are we paying those cops to do then?

    seriously though. it must be hard to put down a delicious donut and run into an active shooter situation. i wouldn't want to do it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I wouldn't want to either. that's why I'm not a cop. it's literally their fucking job. stop accepting accolades as heroes if you're going to be a do nothing shithead. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I wouldn't want to either. that's why I'm not a cop. it's literally their fucking job. stop accepting accolades as heroes if you're going to be a do nothing shithead. 
    It’s probably the highest paying job for people without a degree.

    OT is absurd.  With 100k in OT which may or may not be legitimate they are among the highest paid city employees if they play their cards right.  More than doctors working for the city. That’s what they aspire to, not running into danger. 
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    Cropduster-80 said:
    I’ve been watching “we own this city” on HBO

    if it’s 1/10000 of a percent accurate (which it is) policing is messed up but we all know it anyway.

    im not offering any solutions, but it’s like that creepy uncle everyone has. He’s family, but everyone knows don’t be alone with him.  That’s how I see the police as an institution.  
    Hahaha that offered a clear visual for sure (creepy uncle). Good description. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,385
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    reports are surfacing that the police that were ON SCENE and ENGAGED the Uvalde shooter BEFORE he entered the school, failed to enter the school, shaking in their boots, waiting for backup. 

    THEY SHOULD ALL LOSE THEIR JOBS AND PENSIONS. FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    apparently the thin blue line is cowering in a group outside the building while the shooter gets busy shooting on the inside.
    one woman was trying to get the cops to go inside. they fucking CUFFED HER. when they released her, she jumped the fence, ran into the school, and saved her two kids on her own. 

    FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    I'd love a link to that story please!
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    reports are surfacing that the police that were ON SCENE and ENGAGED the Uvalde shooter BEFORE he entered the school, failed to enter the school, shaking in their boots, waiting for backup. 

    THEY SHOULD ALL LOSE THEIR JOBS AND PENSIONS. FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    apparently the thin blue line is cowering in a group outside the building while the shooter gets busy shooting on the inside.
    one woman was trying to get the cops to go inside. they fucking CUFFED HER. when they released her, she jumped the fence, ran into the school, and saved her two kids on her own. 

    FUCK THOSE COWARDS. 
    I'd love a link to that story please!
    This article references WSJ article.  You can’t see the   WSJ without a subscription 

    https://upnorthlive.com/amp/news/nation-world/police-handcuffed-pepper-sprayed-parents-of-shooting-victims-wsj-says
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,189
    I'm holding off on any police criticism until the full story is out. They are an easy target right now.
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  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm holding off on any police criticism until the full story is out. They are an easy target right now.
    The right has blamed the school. They have also made a causation over a rumour  the shooter was both an illegal immigrant and transgender. 

    Any time you are jumping through hoops to distract it’s a good bet the police response was subpar. In a city where 40 percent of the city budget is the police department 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,189
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I'm holding off on any police criticism until the full story is out. They are an easy target right now.
    The right has blamed the school. They have also made a causation over a rumour  the shooter was both an illegal immigrant and transgender. 

    Any time you are jumping through hoops to distract it’s a good bet the police response was subpar. In a city where 40 percent of the city budget is the police department 
    yeah and my facebook feed is blowing up with people posting this shit....


    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,189
    We are really too stupid to survive. There are way too many morons in this country.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Cropduster-80
    Cropduster-80 Posts: 2,034
    edited May 2022
    Gern Blansten said:
    We are really too stupid to survive. There are way too many morons in this country.
    Arming teachers is about the most absurd solution imaginable 

    however it’s also a way to blame shift and add more guns as being a solution ….”if the teacher had a gun then…”



    Post edited by Cropduster-80 on
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,222
    Cropduster-80 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    We are really too stupid to survive. There are way too many morons in this country.
    Arming teachers is about the most absurd solution imaginable 

    however it’s also a way to blame shift and add more guns as being a solution ….”if the teacher had a gun then…”


    Literally the dumbest argument. 

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