Florida Condo Collapse

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  • lastexitlondon
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  • CM189191
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    mickeyrat said:
     
    Despite warning, town deemed condo building in 'good shape'
    By CURT ANDERSON
    2 hours ago

    Despite an engineer's warning of major structural problems, a town building official told board members their Florida high-rise condominium was in “very good shape” almost three years before it collapsed, according to minutes of that meeting released Monday.

    The Surfside official, Rosendo “Ross” Prieto was quoted as making those comments at a meeting of the Champlain Towers South board on Nov. 15, 2018. That was just over a month after engineering firm Morabito Consultants issued a report describing key flaws in the structure.

    The discussion with Prieto came as Champlain Towers was beginning to explore what work was needed under city and county ordinances for the building to meet a 40-year recertification that was to arrive in 2021.

    The board meeting minutes say that Prieto told them in 2018 the Morabito engineering report had collected the necessary information and “it appears the building is in very good shape.”

    A day later, Prieto told the then-town manager of Surfside he thought the meeting was a success and credited Champlain Towers with getting a good early start on the recertification process.

    “The response was very positive from everyone in the room,” Prieto wrote in the email, also released by town officials. “All the main concerns over their forty-year recertification process were addressed.”

    Yet there is no evidence any of the critical concrete structure work ever started, the documents show. Owners of the 136 units had been told earlier this year they would have to pay their share of a $15 million assessment — $9.1 million of which was major work — by July 1. That assessment ranged from about $80,000 for a one-bedroom unit to more than $330,000 for a penthouse.

    Prieto no longer works at Surfside and efforts to locate him Monday for comment were not immediately successful. Prieto previously told the Miami Herald he didn't remember getting the Morabito report and declined to comment on the November 2018 board meeting.

    The minutes were forwarded to Surfside officials on Sunday by an attorney for the board, according to the town.

    The Morabito report focused attention on the pool deck, which was found to have waterproofing underneath that had failed and had been laid flat instead of sloping to drain off water. This threatened not only the concrete slab under the pool but also other structural areas.

    “Failure to replace the waterproofing in the near future will cause the extent of the concrete deterioration to expand exponentially,” said the report, which also cited “abundant cracking” in concrete columns and beams.

    While numerous theories have emerged, no definitive cause has been identified in Thursday's collapse of the 12-story Champlain Towers South building that left at least 10 people confirmed dead and 151 missing.

    One problem that surfaced back in 2019 involved work at another building adjacent to Champlain Towers South.

    “We are concerned that the construction next to (Champlain) is too close,” board member Mara Chouela wrote in an email to Prieto in January 2019. The construction work, she added, is “digging too close to our property and we have concerns regarding the structure of our building.”

    Prieto responded that Surfside didn't have an official role in that issue. “There is nothing for me to check. The best course of action is to have someone monitor the fence, pool and adjacent areas for damage or hire a consultant to monitor these areas,” he wrote.

    Champlain Towers South resident Steven Rosenthal, who lived on the seventh floor and escaped the collapse, said in a negligence lawsuit filed Sunday by his attorney Robert McKee that there were ample signs of danger.

    The building board, the lawsuit says, had warnings and other sources of information years ago indicating “the risk or potential indicators of severe building damage or collapse.”

    Rosenthal, the lawsuit adds, “lost his home. He lost his personal property obtained over the years. He has been forced into a life with no home or possessions.”

    The lawsuit is at least the second filed so far in the tower's collapse. It seeks unspecified damages.

    Surfside Mayor Charles Burkett said during a news conference Monday that the minutes of the building board meeting were of some concern but did not elaborate. He said the town continues to gather documentation on the history of Champlain Towers South and inspections of its structural integrity, and is posting them online as they become available.

    “We will be 100% transparent,” Burkett said.


    136 unit owners on the hook for $80K to $330K? Some of whom are retirees on limited income? What are the condo fees for and isn’t it standard practice that a % of the condo fees go into escrow for major repairs? 40 years of fees, plus interest? Something stinks.

    Condo associations are run by volunteers.  Usually elected condo owners.  Not people with any sort of building management or maintenance experience.  

    The condo building I live in has budget for regular repairs for common, shared areas (new carpet every 10 years, roofing every 30 years, siding every 30 years, paint every 5 years, etc).

    A big structural issue like this would probable require a special assessment.  
  • tempo_n_groove
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    mickeyrat said:
     
    Despite warning, town deemed condo building in 'good shape'
    By CURT ANDERSON
    2 hours ago

    Despite an engineer's warning of major structural problems, a town building official told board members their Florida high-rise condominium was in “very good shape” almost three years before it collapsed, according to minutes of that meeting released Monday.

    The Surfside official, Rosendo “Ross” Prieto was quoted as making those comments at a meeting of the Champlain Towers South board on Nov. 15, 2018. That was just over a month after engineering firm Morabito Consultants issued a report describing key flaws in the structure.

    The discussion with Prieto came as Champlain Towers was beginning to explore what work was needed under city and county ordinances for the building to meet a 40-year recertification that was to arrive in 2021.

    The board meeting minutes say that Prieto told them in 2018 the Morabito engineering report had collected the necessary information and “it appears the building is in very good shape.”

    A day later, Prieto told the then-town manager of Surfside he thought the meeting was a success and credited Champlain Towers with getting a good early start on the recertification process.

    “The response was very positive from everyone in the room,” Prieto wrote in the email, also released by town officials. “All the main concerns over their forty-year recertification process were addressed.”

    Yet there is no evidence any of the critical concrete structure work ever started, the documents show. Owners of the 136 units had been told earlier this year they would have to pay their share of a $15 million assessment — $9.1 million of which was major work — by July 1. That assessment ranged from about $80,000 for a one-bedroom unit to more than $330,000 for a penthouse.

    Prieto no longer works at Surfside and efforts to locate him Monday for comment were not immediately successful. Prieto previously told the Miami Herald he didn't remember getting the Morabito report and declined to comment on the November 2018 board meeting.

    The minutes were forwarded to Surfside officials on Sunday by an attorney for the board, according to the town.

    The Morabito report focused attention on the pool deck, which was found to have waterproofing underneath that had failed and had been laid flat instead of sloping to drain off water. This threatened not only the concrete slab under the pool but also other structural areas.

    “Failure to replace the waterproofing in the near future will cause the extent of the concrete deterioration to expand exponentially,” said the report, which also cited “abundant cracking” in concrete columns and beams.

    While numerous theories have emerged, no definitive cause has been identified in Thursday's collapse of the 12-story Champlain Towers South building that left at least 10 people confirmed dead and 151 missing.

    One problem that surfaced back in 2019 involved work at another building adjacent to Champlain Towers South.

    “We are concerned that the construction next to (Champlain) is too close,” board member Mara Chouela wrote in an email to Prieto in January 2019. The construction work, she added, is “digging too close to our property and we have concerns regarding the structure of our building.”

    Prieto responded that Surfside didn't have an official role in that issue. “There is nothing for me to check. The best course of action is to have someone monitor the fence, pool and adjacent areas for damage or hire a consultant to monitor these areas,” he wrote.

    Champlain Towers South resident Steven Rosenthal, who lived on the seventh floor and escaped the collapse, said in a negligence lawsuit filed Sunday by his attorney Robert McKee that there were ample signs of danger.

    The building board, the lawsuit says, had warnings and other sources of information years ago indicating “the risk or potential indicators of severe building damage or collapse.”

    Rosenthal, the lawsuit adds, “lost his home. He lost his personal property obtained over the years. He has been forced into a life with no home or possessions.”

    The lawsuit is at least the second filed so far in the tower's collapse. It seeks unspecified damages.

    Surfside Mayor Charles Burkett said during a news conference Monday that the minutes of the building board meeting were of some concern but did not elaborate. He said the town continues to gather documentation on the history of Champlain Towers South and inspections of its structural integrity, and is posting them online as they become available.

    “We will be 100% transparent,” Burkett said.


    136 unit owners on the hook for $80K to $330K? Some of whom are retirees on limited income? What are the condo fees for and isn’t it standard practice that a % of the condo fees go into escrow for major repairs? 40 years of fees, plus interest? Something stinks.
    That's typical practice believe it or not.  "Maintenance" covers just that.  Your heat and air, grounds, plumbing, etc.  When major renovations happen the owners get footed the bill which they usually vote on how to pay it but that is usually redoing the façade.  This happens all the time in Long Beach in the buildings.  

    The fact that this was major structural though may be different?  There should be insurance I would think on this.

    The failing concrete/pool leaking most likely caused the collapse.  If the excavation wasn't done properly then it could be a contributing factor but there are so many safety factors you have to go through when doing that.  

    or

    The excavation was done to code without the realization of the major concrete fails in the building and it contributed to the collapse.

    I heard on NPR that the Structural reports were subpoenaed.
  • Meltdown99
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    Condo fees are for many things but especially for maintenance...the people in charge within the condo association and the city is liable...criminal charges need to be filed...
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    Building official that gave it a clean bill of health was just placed on leave...
  • josevolution
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    Two children’s bodies were found today 😞 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Two children’s bodies were found today 😞 
    The picture of the bunk bed on the edge of the room that used to be whole on the top floor is gut wrenching. Can’t imagine, never mind having family or friends missing or being a neighbor who witnessed it or survived it. Seems surreal.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Fire official: Demolition to collapsed condo to start Sunday
    By REBECCA SANTANA
    8 mins ago

    SURFSIDE, Fla. (AP) — A top Miami-Dade fire official on Saturday told family members of people missing in the rubble of a collapsed condo building that demolition workers planned to bring down the remainder of the building on Sunday.

    Worries have intensified over the past week that the damaged structure could come tumbling down on its own, endangering the crews below and complicating the search for victims.

    Fire Rescue Assistant Fire Chief Raide Jadallah told family members during a morning briefing that the building would be brought down “as soon as possible. First thing tomorrow.”

    But he cautioned that there “may be some hiccups.” A follow-up meeting will be held in the afternoon to finalize details of the demolition, which could be a precarious operation as experts enter the building to bore into the structure to install explosives.

    Concerns that the still-standing portion could tumble have curtailed the search in areas close to that section, and shifts detected by monitors early Thursday prompted a 15-hour suspension of the entire search until engineers determined the site was safe to restart.

    Jadallah said the remnants of the demolished building would be removed immediately after with the intent of giving rescuers access for the first time to the garage area that is the focus of the search.

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    Associated Press reporters Bobby Caina Calvan in Tallahassee, Florida, Terry Spencer in Surfside, Florida, Mike Schneider in Orlando, Florida, and Denise Lavoie in Richmond, Virginia, contributed to this report.


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  • mickeyrat
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    Surfside pushes back on report on delayed building repairs
    By BERNARD CONDON
    Today

    A Surfside, Florida, official pushed back Sunday on the idea that the town was responsible for slowing down a condo board’s plans to make needed structural repairs to a building that eventually collapsed, killing dozens.

    Following a Miami Herald report that it took more than a month for the town to respond to plans submitted by the building’s board in May, town manager Andrew Hyatt released a statement saying the issues under discussion were preliminary plans unrelated to structural work and not permits to begin repairs the building needed to pass a 40-year recertification.

    “It would appear that the Champlain Towers South Condominium Association sought to address a number of issues outside the scope of any proposed 40-year re-certification work," such as new natural gas lines and added parking, Hyatt's statement said. "There was no indication during any communications between the Town and the association by telephone or electronic mail that this submission required emergency action by the Town of Surfside."

    Emails first obtained by the Herald show the condo building manager growing impatient at the lack of response from the town to plans for a temporary parking plan needed to move forward on repair of a concrete slab under building's pool and on damaged columns in its garage.

    “As we are out to bid on our project (we) need to get to answers to these questions,” wrote building manager Scott Stewart to a town building official on June 21, more than a month after an initial email request was sent. “This is holding us up and cost (sic) are going up and out (sic) 40 year is coming up fast."

    He added, "Can we get some feed back please so we can keep moving forward please."

    The town responded with requests for additional information on June 23, just 14 hours before major sections of the 12-story building pancaked on itself, burying sleeping residents in twisted metal and broken concrete. So far, 24 people have been confirmed dead and 121 are still unaccounted for.

    A spokesman for the condo board declined to comment.

    Even without the town delay, it is not certain it would have made any difference. Approving bids and permits for such work may have taken longer than a month. And while the structural problems that were to be repaired have gotten intense scrutiny, it has not been determined definitively that they caused the collapse.

    The emails between the condo building and the town came after years of delay over the structural repairs.

    The problems with the building were first highlighted by an inspection report s ubmitted by an engineering firm to the condo board in 2018. The report urged work on a concrete slab that been improperly laid flat instead of sloped, preventing water from draining off, causing “major structural damage.”

    The report submitted by Morabito Consultants did not warn that the building was in danger of falling down. And a town building official at the time was reassuring, telling members soon after the report that the condo building was in “very good shape."

    Another possible factor adding to the delay was Morabito Consultant's estimated price tag for the work — more than $9 million.

    Some owners protested, members of the board left, new ones came in, the repairs were put off and by the time a new board was ready to start the work this year, the price tag had ballooned to more than $15 million, according to a board letter sent to owners in April.

    When the building fell on June 24, the board had taken out a loan, work on the roof had begun, requests for bids for structural repairs were put out, and some owners had already paid in full their special assessment to pay for the work. Those who elected to pay in installments over many years instead faced a deadline for their first payments on July 1.


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    Search back on after rest of South Florida condo demolished
    By REBECCA SANTANA and BOBBY CAINA CALVAN
    17 mins ago

    SURFSIDE, Fla. (AP) — Rescuers were given the all-clear to resume work looking for victims at a collapsed South Florida condo building after demolition crews set off a string of explosives that brought down the last of the building in a plume of dust.

    Miami-Dade County Mayor Daniella Levine Cava told the Associated Press that the demolition went “exactly as planned” around 10:30 p.m. Sunday.

    Crews immediately began clearing some of the new debris so rescuers could start making their way into parts of the underground garage that is of particular interest. Once there, they were hoping to get a clearer picture of voids that may exist in the rubble as they search for 121 people believed to be trapped under the fallen wing of the Champlain Towers South in Surfside that collapsed June 24.

    No one has been rescued alive since the first hours after the collapse. On Sunday, Miami-Dade police identified David Epstein, 58, as one of the 24 people known to have perished in the fallen tower. His remains were recovered Friday.

    During the demolition, a loud rat-at-tat of explosions echoed from the structure. Then the building began to fall, one floor after another, cascading into an explosion of dust. Plumes billowed into the air, as crowds watched the scene from afar.

    Demolition crews set off explosives late Sunday to bring down the damaged remaining portion of a collapsed South Florida condo building, a key step to resuming the search for victims as rescuers possibly gain access to new areas of the rubble. (July 4)

    “It was picture perfect. Exactly what we were told would happen,” Levine Cava said in an interview shortly after the demolition.

    It wasn't long before cranes were again in motion at the site. Levine Cava said in an interview on NBC’s “Today” that crews were back searching the rubble before midnight.

    Some residents had pleaded to return to their homes one last time before the demolition to retrieve belongings left in haste, but were denied. Others wondered about the pets left behind, even though officials said they found no signs of animals after making three final sweeps, including the use of drones to peer into the abandoned structure.

    Levine Cava said officials have been explaining their decisions with the survivors since the beginning of the search-and-rescue effort.

    “We understand that families realize the fact that time has gone by, they realize that the chances are growing all dimmer,” she said on “Today.” “They are with us, they know what we’ve been doing every step of the way.”

    The mayor also said that teams are working to save any personal items they can. “We have been asking them to go ahead and catalog all of their precious belongings so that as soon as they are recovered, we’ll be able to make a match.”

    Approaching Tropical Storm Elsa had added urgency to the demolition plans with forecasts suggesting the system could bring strong winds. President Joe Biden declared a state of emergency in Florida because of the storm, making federal aid possible.

    The latest forecasts have moved the storm westward, mostly sparing South Florida, but National Hurricane Center meteorologist Robert Molleda said the area could still feel effects.

    “We’re expecting primarily tropical storm force gusts,” Molleda said, referring to gusts above 40 mph (64 kph).

    The decision to demolish the remnants of the Surfside building came after concerns mounted that the damaged structure was at risk of falling, endangering the crews below and preventing them from operating in some areas. Parts of the remaining building shifted on Thursday, prompting a 15-hour suspension in the work.

    Authorities had gone door-to-door to advise nearby residents of the timing of the demolition, and to ask them to keep windows closed. They were told to stay inside until two hours after the blast to avoid the dust raised by the implosion.

    The method used for Sunday night’s demolition is called “energetic felling,” which uses small detonation devices and relies on the force of gravity. The goal was to bring in the building down in place, containing the collapse to the immediate surroundings.

    Officials used tarps to visually mark the search area, in case new debris scattered unexpectedly.

    State officials said they hired the BG Group, a general contractor based in Delray Beach, Florida, to lead the demolition. They did not immediately respond to an inquiry about how the firm was selected, but a contract for the project calls for the state to pay the company $935,000.

    A spokesperson for the state’s Division of Emergency Management said the company subcontracted with Maryland-based Controlled Demolition Inc., which experts say is among only a handful of companies in the U.S. that demolishes structures using explosives. The company was expected to place explosives on the basement and lobby levels of the still-standing structure, according to the contract for the work.

    CDI is “probably one of the best” in the industry, said Steve Schwartz, a member of the National Demolition Association’s board of directors. He described the company’s president and owner, Mark Loizeaux, as “cool, calm and collected.”

    In implosions — using explosives to have a building fall in on itself — the charges are generally set off in rapid succession over a matter of seconds, said Scott Homrich, who heads the National Demolition Association and runs his own demolition company in Detroit, Michigan. Setting the explosives off at intervals serves to break up the building at the same time it’s coming down.

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    Calvan reported from Tallahassee. Associated Press writers Terry Spencer in Surfside, Florida; Adriana Gomez Licon in Miami; Sudhin Thanawala in Atlanta, Freida Frisaro in Fort Lauderdale and Ian Mader in Miami contributed to this report.


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  • tempo_n_groove
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    All those people had to leave their belongings in the building and then demoed it...  Man that sucks.

    This will be one hell of a lawsuit.
  • Poncier
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    All those people had to leave their belongings in the building and then demoed it...  Man that sucks.

    This will be one hell of a lawsuit.
    Yeah I imagine there was a lot of value lost in jewelry, clothing etc.
    Some likely even had decent amounts of cash in their units.....impossible to put on an insurance claim.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Poncier said:
    All those people had to leave their belongings in the building and then demoed it...  Man that sucks.

    This will be one hell of a lawsuit.
    Yeah I imagine there was a lot of value lost in jewelry, clothing etc.
    Some likely even had decent amounts of cash in their units.....impossible to put on an insurance claim.
    they had residents compile a list of irreplaceable items, so when the clean up occured they could match found items to a resident.

    imperfect to be sure, but it IS something.

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  • tempo_n_groove
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    mickeyrat said:
    Poncier said:
    All those people had to leave their belongings in the building and then demoed it...  Man that sucks.

    This will be one hell of a lawsuit.
    Yeah I imagine there was a lot of value lost in jewelry, clothing etc.
    Some likely even had decent amounts of cash in their units.....impossible to put on an insurance claim.
    they had residents compile a list of irreplaceable items, so when the clean up occured they could match found items to a resident.

    imperfect to be sure, but it IS something.

    They had people set up explosives on the building, they could have found items in rooms and brought them out?

    Moot point now I guess.
  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    Poncier said:
    All those people had to leave their belongings in the building and then demoed it...  Man that sucks.

    This will be one hell of a lawsuit.
    Yeah I imagine there was a lot of value lost in jewelry, clothing etc.
    Some likely even had decent amounts of cash in their units.....impossible to put on an insurance claim.
    they had residents compile a list of irreplaceable items, so when the clean up occured they could match found items to a resident.

    imperfect to be sure, but it IS something.

    They had people set up explosives on the building, they could have found items in rooms and brought them out?

    Moot point now I guess.

    being unsure of stability NO ONE was allowed on upper floors. there was major concern with column drilling to set explosive charges, so no , other than clearing the floors of pets and people early on, this is the best and safest  they could do.
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Poncier said:
    All those people had to leave their belongings in the building and then demoed it...  Man that sucks.

    This will be one hell of a lawsuit.
    Yeah I imagine there was a lot of value lost in jewelry, clothing etc.
    Some likely even had decent amounts of cash in their units.....impossible to put on an insurance claim.
    they had residents compile a list of irreplaceable items, so when the clean up occured they could match found items to a resident.

    imperfect to be sure, but it IS something.

    They had people set up explosives on the building, they could have found items in rooms and brought them out?

    Moot point now I guess.

    being unsure of stability NO ONE was allowed on upper floors. there was major concern with column drilling to set explosive charges, so no , other than clearing the floors of pets and people early on, this is the best and safest  they could do.
    I was curious on how they did demo the building for explosives as it can be very involved and was done so quickly.

    There have been 3 other buildings evacuated now in Florida for fears of colapsing.
  • mickeyrat
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    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Poncier said:
    All those people had to leave their belongings in the building and then demoed it...  Man that sucks.

    This will be one hell of a lawsuit.
    Yeah I imagine there was a lot of value lost in jewelry, clothing etc.
    Some likely even had decent amounts of cash in their units.....impossible to put on an insurance claim.
    they had residents compile a list of irreplaceable items, so when the clean up occured they could match found items to a resident.

    imperfect to be sure, but it IS something.

    They had people set up explosives on the building, they could have found items in rooms and brought them out?

    Moot point now I guess.

    being unsure of stability NO ONE was allowed on upper floors. there was major concern with column drilling to set explosive charges, so no , other than clearing the floors of pets and people early on, this is the best and safest  they could do.
    I was curious on how they did demo the building for explosives as it can be very involved and was done so quickly.

    There have been 3 other buildings evacuated now in Florida for fears of colapsing.

    the company used and some of their projects were shown earlier in the thread.

    as for the evacuations, maybe this motivates both city officials and condo owners to not fuck around with repairs and the reports used to determine what needs done.
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  • Meltdown99
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    The lawyers in Florida will be busy with this one for a long while…

    RIP to everyone who passed away far too soon.


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  • mickeyrat
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    Searchers at collapse site 'not seeing anything positive'
    By TERRY SPENCER
    1 hour ago

    SURFSIDE, Fla. (AP) — Officials overseeing the search at the site of the Florida condominium collapse sounded increasingly somber Tuesday about the prospects for finding anyone alive, saying they have detected no new signs of life in the rubble as the death toll climbed to 36.

    Crews in yellow helmets and blue jumpsuits searched the debris for a 13th day while wind and rain from the outer bands of Tropical Storm Elsa complicated their efforts. Video released by the Miami-Dade County Fire Rescue Department showed workers lugging pickaxes and power saws through piles of concrete rubble barbed with snapped steel rebar. Other searchers could be seen digging with gloved hands through pulverized concrete and dumping shovels of debris into large buckets.

    Search-and-rescue workers continued to look for open spaces where people might be found alive nearly two weeks after the disaster struck at the Champlain Towers South building in Surfside.

    “We’re actively searching as aggressively as we can,” Miami-Dade County Fire Chief Alan Cominsky said at a news conference. But he added: “Unfortunately, we are not seeing anything positive. The key things — void spaces, living spaces — we’re not seeing anything like that.”

    While officials still call the efforts a search-and-rescue operation, Miami-Dade Mayor Daniella Levine Cava said families of those still missing are preparing for news of “tragic loss.”

    Rescuers resumed their search for victims at the collapsed Florida condo building after demolition crews set off a string of explosives last night. Rescuers on Monday morning discovered three more victims, bringing the death toll to 27. (July 5)

    “I think everybody will be ready when it’s time to move to the next phase,” said Levine Cava, who stressed that crews would use the same care as they go through the rubble even after their focus shifts from searching for survivors to recovering the dead.

    “Really, you will not see a difference,” she said. “We will carefully search for bodies and belongings, and to catalog and respectfully deal with any remains that we find.”

    No one has been rescued alive since the first hours after the collapse, which struck early on June 24, when many of the building's residents were asleep.

    Officials announced Tuesday that teams had recovered eight additional bodies — the highest one-day total since the collapse. More than 100 people remain unaccounted for.

    Severe weather from Elsa threatened to hinder search efforts. Lightning forced rescuers to pause their work for two hours early Tuesday, Miami-Dade Assistant Fire Chief Raide Jadallah said. And stiff winds of 20 mph (32 kph), with stronger gusts, hampered efforts to move heavy debris with cranes, officials said.

    However, the storm's heaviest winds and rain were expected to bypass Surfside and neighboring Miami as Elsa strengthened before making landfall somewhere between Tampa Bay and Florida's Big Bend on a path across northern Florida.

    “Active search and rescue continued throughout the night, and these teams continue through extremely adverse and challenging conditions,” Levine Cava said. “Through the rain and through the wind, they have continued searching.”

    Crews have removed 124 tons (112 metric tonnes) of debris from the site, Cominsky said.

    Workers have been freed to search a broader area since the unstable remaining portion of the condo building was demolished Sunday amid fears that the structure could fall. Officials said the demolition gave rescuers access to spaces that were previously closed off, including bedrooms where people were believed to be sleeping at the time of the disaster.

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    Associated Press writers Adriana Gomez Licon in Miami; Freida Frisaro in Fort Lauderdale, Florida; Bobby Caina Calvan in Tallahassee, Florida; Cody Jackson in Surfside, Florida; and Russ Bynum in Savannah, Georgia, contributed to this report.


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