The coronavirus

Lerxst1992 said:

Weston1283 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

josevolution said:

Weston1283 said:

tish said:

Weston1283 said:

In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations

We are almost (if not already) at the point where anyone who wants a vaccine can just log on in the morning and get it same day.  To me, that has always been the "end" of the pandemic, and that is a thought I maintain today.

Worldwide endemic because you are able to vaccinate while others can't? 

I’m not sure where each country is at with vaccination, my comments apply to the USA only since that’s where I’m following my data from.  

But, locally, we seem to be at the end of the line with vaccinations, so locally, I feel that it is time to get back to normal

End of line lol 40 something % of Republicans are refusing the vaccine.

What is your solution then?  Honestly curious.  

You can’t force something on people that isn’t FDA approved at least at a national level.  Private entities can mandate vaccines (airlines/colleges/etc) and make it hard enough that people who don’t want the Vaxx say “fuck it”

But what else can we do when every person(in the states) who wants the vaccine can readily and easily get it and protect themselves?  

100% of the country was never going to get the vaccine.  We are never going to prevent anyone ever dying again of coronavirus or a variant.  Anyone who expects that doesn’t live in reality 

Sorry for the rant, but the 10% crowd of people who (I think) genuinely never want the pandemic to end are just as frustrating as the 10% of fools who think the vaccine and the pandemic are a fake government ploy to do whatever the hell they think is going on

Do you have children?
No judgement, just a question.

I do not

I do and am concerned that many do not seem to consider kids just because it is not lethal to them in large numbers.  
They certainly can carry and transmit it and if long term effects are associated with some who get Covid, what does this mean for kids?

I'm rooting damn hard to get back to some sense of normal, I'm for certain not a person who wants this to continue but I feel like rushing out as the end is in sight is kind of a slap back on all of the stuff we have been through the past year +

Just want as few people to die as possible.
All in favor of vaxx cards, of letting people who don't want it deal with the fallout....but I think we are still a ways from them being the only ones without the vaxx.

I understand.  I also hope that we can get more data regarding the vaccine in children.  But like you said, it is not as lethal to children.  Possible?  Yes, but not nearly to the degree of the at risk crowd.  I can’t relate as closely since I don’t have children.  

We actually need to beat the virus before we beat the virus. That’s the simple fact conservatives are overlooking. If we take a close look at vaccinations by state, many democratic states have at least one dose in 47% of the population while red states are at 37%. That gap is only going to widen. To beat the virus, we need to get new cases very low, so the virus does not continue to mutate and strengthen. If statewide populations only vaccinate around 55% of the population, the virus will mutate, become stronger and deadlier.

A healthier country would be having THAT discussion, before whining about lost freedoms. And it can’t be said enough, there are counties that do. Australia unvaccinated is healthier than the US vaccinated. We should all chew on that for a moment.

And some were trumping up Texas success here last week. Where are they now?

The virus will continue mutate no matter how many people get vaccinated.  It sounds like we have a different opinion on what beating the virus is.

As for Texas, I think they’re doing well?

Weston1283 said:

mickeyrat said:

this one on India is very troubling

b1 617 or something like that? been found in Pakistan and Bangladesh I believe.

Fauci touched on this yesterday and stated that Covaxin “neutralizes” this variant.  So troubling in a way, but we already have a solution.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/covaxin-found-to-neutralise-617-variants-of-covid-says-us-expert-245374

The United States is but one small part of the greater whole. We ARE NOT the center of the planet.

Merkin Baller said:

mickeyrat said:

Weston1283 said:

mickeyrat said:

this one on India is very troubling

b1 617 or something like that? been found in Pakistan and Bangladesh I believe.

Fauci touched on this yesterday and stated that Covaxin “neutralizes” this variant.  So troubling in a way, but we already have a solution.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/covaxin-found-to-neutralise-617-variants-of-covid-says-us-expert-245374

The United States is but one small part of the greater whole. We ARE NOT the center of the planet.

You're pissing into the wind. 

American's aren't getting over themselves or the foolish myth of American exceptionalism, ever. 


Didn't you hear? The pandemic is over. 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/widespread-skepticism-and-misinformation-hamper-indias-vaccine-rollout

"This vaccination center in Delhi is ready to give 400 people shots every day, but authorities say, on most days, they see half that number."
"Since India started administering the second vaccine dose two weeks ago, half of the front-line workers and nearly 40 percent of healthcare workers have not shown up."

Why should this be an American problem?  How is keeping restaurants in America at 50% capacity going to help or hurt the people of India?  I am not connecting the dot.

Weston1283 said:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/widespread-skepticism-and-misinformation-hamper-indias-vaccine-rollout

"This vaccination center in Delhi is ready to give 400 people shots every day, but authorities say, on most days, they see half that number."
"Since India started administering the second vaccine dose two weeks ago, half of the front-line workers and nearly 40 percent of healthcare workers have not shown up."

Why should this be an American problem?  How is keeping restaurants in America at 50% capacity going to help or hurt the people of India?  I am not connecting the dot.

because its a global fucking economy.

PJPOWER said:

Weston1283 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Weston1283 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

josevolution said:

Weston1283 said:

tish said:

Weston1283 said:

In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations

We are almost (if not already) at the point where anyone who wants a vaccine can just log on in the morning and get it same day.  To me, that has always been the "end" of the pandemic, and that is a thought I maintain today.

Worldwide endemic because you are able to vaccinate while others can't? 

I’m not sure where each country is at with vaccination, my comments apply to the USA only since that’s where I’m following my data from.  

But, locally, we seem to be at the end of the line with vaccinations, so locally, I feel that it is time to get back to normal

End of line lol 40 something % of Republicans are refusing the vaccine.

What is your solution then?  Honestly curious.  

You can’t force something on people that isn’t FDA approved at least at a national level.  Private entities can mandate vaccines (airlines/colleges/etc) and make it hard enough that people who don’t want the Vaxx say “fuck it”

But what else can we do when every person(in the states) who wants the vaccine can readily and easily get it and protect themselves?  

100% of the country was never going to get the vaccine.  We are never going to prevent anyone ever dying again of coronavirus or a variant.  Anyone who expects that doesn’t live in reality 

Sorry for the rant, but the 10% crowd of people who (I think) genuinely never want the pandemic to end are just as frustrating as the 10% of fools who think the vaccine and the pandemic are a fake government ploy to do whatever the hell they think is going on

Do you have children?
No judgement, just a question.

I do not

I do and am concerned that many do not seem to consider kids just because it is not lethal to them in large numbers.  
They certainly can carry and transmit it and if long term effects are associated with some who get Covid, what does this mean for kids?

I'm rooting damn hard to get back to some sense of normal, I'm for certain not a person who wants this to continue but I feel like rushing out as the end is in sight is kind of a slap back on all of the stuff we have been through the past year +

Just want as few people to die as possible.
All in favor of vaxx cards, of letting people who don't want it deal with the fallout....but I think we are still a ways from them being the only ones without the vaxx.

I understand.  I also hope that we can get more data regarding the vaccine in children.  But like you said, it is not as lethal to children.  Possible?  Yes, but not nearly to the degree of the at risk crowd.  I can’t relate as closely since I don’t have children.  

We actually need to beat the virus before we beat the virus. That’s the simple fact conservatives are overlooking. If we take a close look at vaccinations by state, many democratic states have at least one dose in 47% of the population while red states are at 37%. That gap is only going to widen. To beat the virus, we need to get new cases very low, so the virus does not continue to mutate and strengthen. If statewide populations only vaccinate around 55% of the population, the virus will mutate, become stronger and deadlier.

A healthier country would be having THAT discussion, before whining about lost freedoms. And it can’t be said enough, there are counties that do. Australia unvaccinated is healthier than the US vaccinated. We should all chew on that for a moment.

And some were trumping up Texas success here last week. Where are they now?

The virus will continue mutate no matter how many people get vaccinated.  It sounds like we have a different opinion on what beating the virus is.

As for Texas, I think they’re doing well?

Was there ever an apocalyptic spike from the Rangers game that everyone was freaking out about? 

No

I thought Tx was testing less.......

Maybe I am not understanding you correctly so let me clarify

I understand that if India continues to have a COVID surge, that affects the global economy and in a way, the USA

I also see that our government recognizes this and it seems Biden is close to sending 60 million doses to India to help them out

But, with that said, I don’t see how us waiting for India to get vaccinated helps our and the global economy once we as a country are vaccinated.  If anything, wouldn’t it be better for a country like America to completely open up once vaccines are available?

I am not understanding how this would negatively affect the people half way across the world in any way especially with how restricted international travel is at the moment and I am genuinely open to explanations as to why opening restaurants and bars in America (for example) will negatively affect those in the spiking countries such as India and Brazil