The coronavirus

gvn2fly1421

Remember China and the people falling dead in the streets...  I do...

https://twitter.com/Tomko_1/status/1387219779912601610

static111

Weston1283 said:

oftenreading said:

Weston1283 said:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/widespread-skepticism-and-misinformation-hamper-indias-vaccine-rollout

"This vaccination center in Delhi is ready to give 400 people shots every day, but authorities say, on most days, they see half that number."
"Since India started administering the second vaccine dose two weeks ago, half of the front-line workers and nearly 40 percent of healthcare workers have not shown up."

Why should this be an American problem?  How is keeping restaurants in America at 50% capacity going to help or hurt the people of India?  I am not connecting the dot.

There are other reasons why people are not filling up the appointment slots that have nothing to do with vaccine skepticism.

Indians rush for vaccines as coronavirus toll tops 200,000

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-total-deaths-covid-19-passes-200000-mark-2021-04-28/

And the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are getting sick daily, with thousands dying, is a human problem, and will continue to be a human problem and an "American problem" until the situation is under control worldwide. 

It is absolutely a human problem.  We should do everything we can as a country to help other countries with vaccination/resources/etc

However, no one has been able to answer my question.

How does continuing to keep business/gathering restrictions in place in America once the vaccine is readily available (in America) help the human problem/situation in India?

People that don’t get vaxxed will still travel

Meltdown99

The US is sitting on 60 million doses...why not get them to India ... PDQ.  I realize 60 million is just a fraction of what India needs...but it will help.

Weston1283

tbergs said:

Weston1283 said:

oftenreading said:

Weston1283 said:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/widespread-skepticism-and-misinformation-hamper-indias-vaccine-rollout

"This vaccination center in Delhi is ready to give 400 people shots every day, but authorities say, on most days, they see half that number."
"Since India started administering the second vaccine dose two weeks ago, half of the front-line workers and nearly 40 percent of healthcare workers have not shown up."

Why should this be an American problem?  How is keeping restaurants in America at 50% capacity going to help or hurt the people of India?  I am not connecting the dot.

There are other reasons why people are not filling up the appointment slots that have nothing to do with vaccine skepticism.

Indians rush for vaccines as coronavirus toll tops 200,000

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-total-deaths-covid-19-passes-200000-mark-2021-04-28/

And the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are getting sick daily, with thousands dying, is a human problem, and will continue to be a human problem and an "American problem" until the situation is under control worldwide. 

It is absolutely a human problem.  We should do everything we can as a country to help other countries with vaccination/resources/etc

However, no one has been able to answer my question.

How does continuing to keep business/gathering restrictions in place in America once the vaccine is readily available (in America) help the human problem/situation in India?

I'll answer, it doesn't, but I also don't think people will see the uptick in business they think if restrictions are removed right now. America is moving on to the land of first world problems like normal though. People are bitching about access to concerts and events and want their American needs met! People generally don't care about the shitty living conditions of their own neighbors, so we know they don't care about other countries unless it impacts their leisure activities (oil, electronics, vacation, etc.).

We're offering 2100 vaccinations at our campus to all our employees, students and their family members the next 3 days and have less than 100 people signed up so far. Supply outweighs demand already and we're in a highly urban setting. I can't imagine the piss poor rates in the rural areas, but that's up to those people. Time to move on from the non-believers and as soon as all adults have had a shot, get something that is available for children so parents can decide what they want to do. 

Is it wrong of us to want these things back?  In a way Morally, sure.  But I don’t think it’s really that wrong in reality to want the things that we used to have back to normal once we have done our part on a local/national level.  My argument would be that before the pandemic, many Americans already had luxuries that some people in other countries could only dream of, and no one cared then, so why would the “new normal” be any different?  I know that sounds horrible to say, but it’s the way things were for the last however many years.  It’s no more wrong now than it ever was, so I have a hard time relating American luxury to “ending” the pandemic on a local and national level.

I got the vaccine to do my part and protect those around me.  I think every person should do the same.  Can’t agree with you more on it being time to move on and get these vaccines to places that need them if we aren’t going to use them ourselves here. 

Halifax2TheMax

gvn2fly1421 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Oh, and the Sinclair Broadcast Group doesn't have an agenda, dontcha know?

Seems Tejas has had a lot of motorcycle and gun shot deaths of late.

Prime example of an individual cheering for failure.  Next he will tell you about "Deathsantis", yet he will not mention about how Texas and Florida are in the same position as the blue states, if not way better off. 

The modern left, loves humanity, hates people.

"Cheering for failure?' Please point me to a post where I've "cheered for failure." Regarding Deathsantis, nice name by the way, I think I'll use it, did you see where the wealthiest counties in Flo Rida have 100% vaccination rates and the poorer districts, not so much? And that he fired the woman and had her criminally charged for reporting out the Covid stats rather than Deathsantis's party line? Sure you did.

Is "cheering for failure" the same as "covid is a hoax and really due to motorcycle crashes and gun shot deaths?"

Meltdown99

suppose to be an announcement coming from the Ontario government on the possibility of paid sick days?  Anyone else in North America live in a province/state with legislated sick days?

Halifax2TheMax

gvn2fly1421 said:

Remember China and the people falling dead in the streets...  I do...

https://twitter.com/Tomko_1/status/1387219779912601610

Are you living your life yet?

gvn2fly1421

The situation in India is so bad.  BTW, she must've voted for Trump right?

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1387186655518396420

Halifax2TheMax

gvn2fly1421 said:

The situation in India is so bad.  BTW, she must've voted for Trump right?

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1387186655518396420

Did POOTWH win? All be damned!

F Me In The Brain

Cat turd is a reference?

gvn2fly1421

F Me In The Brain said:

Cat turd is a reference?

I told y'all a long time ago catturd is a really good follow!

https://twitter.com/catturd2

Merkin Baller

"person in India" 

posted by "Joe, you know trump won" 


 

 

Halifax2TheMax

F Me In The Brain said:

Cat turd is a reference?

Didn't you know that cats have their paws on the pulse of reality?

F Me In The Brain

Halifax2TheMax said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Cat turd is a reference?

Didn't you know that cats have their paws on the pulse of reality?

Now I do, always wanting to learn. 

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Cat turd is a reference?

Didn't you know that cats have their paws on the pulse of reality?

Now I do, always wanting to learn. 

Educate yourself, man...

gvn2fly1421

gvn2fly1421 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Weston1283 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

josevolution said:

Weston1283 said:

tish said:

Weston1283 said:

In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations

We are almost (if not already) at the point where anyone who wants a vaccine can just log on in the morning and get it same day.  To me, that has always been the "end" of the pandemic, and that is a thought I maintain today.

Worldwide endemic because you are able to vaccinate while others can't? 

I’m not sure where each country is at with vaccination, my comments apply to the USA only since that’s where I’m following my data from.  

But, locally, we seem to be at the end of the line with vaccinations, so locally, I feel that it is time to get back to normal

End of line lol 40 something % of Republicans are refusing the vaccine.

What is your solution then?  Honestly curious.  

You can’t force something on people that isn’t FDA approved at least at a national level.  Private entities can mandate vaccines (airlines/colleges/etc) and make it hard enough that people who don’t want the Vaxx say “fuck it”

But what else can we do when every person(in the states) who wants the vaccine can readily and easily get it and protect themselves?  

100% of the country was never going to get the vaccine.  We are never going to prevent anyone ever dying again of coronavirus or a variant.  Anyone who expects that doesn’t live in reality 

Sorry for the rant, but the 10% crowd of people who (I think) genuinely never want the pandemic to end are just as frustrating as the 10% of fools who think the vaccine and the pandemic are a fake government ploy to do whatever the hell they think is going on

Do you have children?
No judgement, just a question.

I do not

I do and am concerned that many do not seem to consider kids just because it is not lethal to them in large numbers.  
They certainly can carry and transmit it and if long term effects are associated with some who get Covid, what does this mean for kids?

I'm rooting damn hard to get back to some sense of normal, I'm for certain not a person who wants this to continue but I feel like rushing out as the end is in sight is kind of a slap back on all of the stuff we have been through the past year +

Just want as few people to die as possible.
All in favor of vaxx cards, of letting people who don't want it deal with the fallout....but I think we are still a ways from them being the only ones without the vaxx.

I understand.  I also hope that we can get more data regarding the vaccine in children.  But like you said, it is not as lethal to children.  Possible?  Yes, but not nearly to the degree of the at risk crowd.  I can’t relate as closely since I don’t have children.  

We actually need to beat the virus before we beat the virus. That’s the simple fact conservatives are overlooking. If we take a close look at vaccinations by state, many democratic states have at least one dose in 47% of the population while red states are at 37%. That gap is only going to widen. To beat the virus, we need to get new cases very low, so the virus does not continue to mutate and strengthen. If statewide populations only vaccinate around 55% of the population, the virus will mutate, become stronger and deadlier.

A healthier country would be having THAT discussion, before whining about lost freedoms. And it can’t be said enough, there are counties that do. Australia unvaccinated is healthier than the US vaccinated. We should all chew on that for a moment.

And some were trumping up Texas success here last week. Where are they now?

What if Australia already had an outbreak prior to 2020?  I am telling y'all, spend some time today reading through some links I post.  The Ethical Skeptic posts some very intriguing stuff.

His twitter account - https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic

Relative tweets -

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1386895206142906369

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1386896534038515715

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1387152459097903109

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1387205197093539842

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1387244280847142912

Since I have the usual suspects attention, anyone care to comment on this or nah, just gonna keep our collective heads in the sand?

F Me In The Brain

I'm not paying attention, the cat turd just made me laugh.  

gvn2fly1421

Weston1283 said:

Per CDC as of now

• Fully vaccinated people do not need to wear masks in small outdoor gatherings, even if some people at the gathering are not vaccinated.  They double down that if you are vaccinated, your risk is minimal to none when outdoors, even around unvaccinated people 
• Still wear masks at larger packed outdoor gatherings
• Vaccinated people can resume regular every day activities indoors safely with a mask such as going to the gym or a restaurant or bar
• Less than 10% of transmission is found in the outdoor setting

Fauci discussing variants 
- The UK Vaccine is now the dominant variant covid-19 strain in the USA, but it is covered by all of the mRNA vaccine
- South African variant - all of the vaccines except the AstraZeneca are effective against this variant

Final statement from Fauci:
”Get vaccinated and you will have a degree of protection even from the variants”

Joe must have not got the message yesterday...  Say it with me everyone, prop·a·gan·da...

https://twitter.com/thorsome1/status/1387164094487154691

mrussel1

gvn2fly1421 said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Weston1283 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Weston1283 said:

josevolution said:

Weston1283 said:

tish said:

Weston1283 said:

In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations

We are almost (if not already) at the point where anyone who wants a vaccine can just log on in the morning and get it same day.  To me, that has always been the "end" of the pandemic, and that is a thought I maintain today.

Worldwide endemic because you are able to vaccinate while others can't? 

I’m not sure where each country is at with vaccination, my comments apply to the USA only since that’s where I’m following my data from.  

But, locally, we seem to be at the end of the line with vaccinations, so locally, I feel that it is time to get back to normal

End of line lol 40 something % of Republicans are refusing the vaccine.

What is your solution then?  Honestly curious.  

You can’t force something on people that isn’t FDA approved at least at a national level.  Private entities can mandate vaccines (airlines/colleges/etc) and make it hard enough that people who don’t want the Vaxx say “fuck it”

But what else can we do when every person(in the states) who wants the vaccine can readily and easily get it and protect themselves?  

100% of the country was never going to get the vaccine.  We are never going to prevent anyone ever dying again of coronavirus or a variant.  Anyone who expects that doesn’t live in reality 

Sorry for the rant, but the 10% crowd of people who (I think) genuinely never want the pandemic to end are just as frustrating as the 10% of fools who think the vaccine and the pandemic are a fake government ploy to do whatever the hell they think is going on

Do you have children?
No judgement, just a question.

I do not

I do and am concerned that many do not seem to consider kids just because it is not lethal to them in large numbers.  
They certainly can carry and transmit it and if long term effects are associated with some who get Covid, what does this mean for kids?

I'm rooting damn hard to get back to some sense of normal, I'm for certain not a person who wants this to continue but I feel like rushing out as the end is in sight is kind of a slap back on all of the stuff we have been through the past year +

Just want as few people to die as possible.
All in favor of vaxx cards, of letting people who don't want it deal with the fallout....but I think we are still a ways from them being the only ones without the vaxx.

I understand.  I also hope that we can get more data regarding the vaccine in children.  But like you said, it is not as lethal to children.  Possible?  Yes, but not nearly to the degree of the at risk crowd.  I can’t relate as closely since I don’t have children.  

We actually need to beat the virus before we beat the virus. That’s the simple fact conservatives are overlooking. If we take a close look at vaccinations by state, many democratic states have at least one dose in 47% of the population while red states are at 37%. That gap is only going to widen. To beat the virus, we need to get new cases very low, so the virus does not continue to mutate and strengthen. If statewide populations only vaccinate around 55% of the population, the virus will mutate, become stronger and deadlier.

A healthier country would be having THAT discussion, before whining about lost freedoms. And it can’t be said enough, there are counties that do. Australia unvaccinated is healthier than the US vaccinated. We should all chew on that for a moment.

And some were trumping up Texas success here last week. Where are they now?

What if Australia already had an outbreak prior to 2020?  I am telling y'all, spend some time today reading through some links I post.  The Ethical Skeptic posts some very intriguing stuff.

His twitter account - https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic

Relative tweets -

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1386895206142906369

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1386896534038515715

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1387152459097903109

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1387205197093539842

https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1387244280847142912

Since I have the usual suspects attention, anyone care to comment on this or nah, just gonna keep our collective heads in the sand?

Sharyl Attkinson?  Are you friggin' kidding me?  She's a part of media that continues to perpetuate the Big Lie.  So we're supposed to take anything she says seriously?  Give me a break. You might as well link Eric Trump.  Same credibility. 

Poncier

gvn2fly1421 said:

The situation in India is so bad.  BTW, she must've voted for Trump right?

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1387186655518396420

Ha, outside her car windows we did see the entire country of India and everything gong on in all corners.

And the best is: "Indian people like to sleep in the street"