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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mickeyrat said:
    I thought Tx was testing less.......
    Was there an apocalyptic level spike in COVID deaths?  No way of getting around that “test”.  And last time I had a sinus infection (2 weeks ago) I got tested...so we are still testing as far as I know...
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I thought Tx was testing less.......
    Lol we don’t test at all down here, can’t get recorded cases of you don’t test!
    Where do you live in TX that does not test at all?  That’s definitely not the case for the whole state.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,068
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I thought Tx was testing less.......
    Lol we don’t test at all down here, can’t get recorded cases of you don’t test!
    Where do you live in TX that does not test at all?  That’s definitely not the case for the whole state.
    Austin.  I guess we test more than other places, it definitely is a non zero number, but nowhere near how testing was done pre Greg A Butt opening up t he state and declaring the pandemic over.
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    edited April 2021
    @Weston1283 Where are you hearing that Biden is sending 60 million vaccine doses to India? Everything I have read is that it has not been decided yet where any of the doses are going.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2021
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I thought Tx was testing less.......
    Lol we don’t test at all down here, can’t get recorded cases of you don’t test!
    Where do you live in TX that does not test at all?  That’s definitely not the case for the whole state.
    Austin.  I guess we test more than other places, it definitely is a non zero number, but nowhere near how testing was done pre Greg A Butt opening up t he state and declaring the pandemic over.
    TX has also administered 7.5 million vaccines.  That may be only 25% of the state’s total population, but CA is the only other state that has vaccinated that many people.  I assume that a higher rate of vaccinated people live in the cities, but that’s just a guess.  With TX being so vast, there is a very high rural population when compared to states like New York.  Most of the anti-vaxxers that I hear about are from the more rural towns that never got hit too hard in the first place.
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    @Weston1283 Where are you hearing that Biden is sending 60 million vaccine doses to India? Everything I have read is that it has not been decided yet where any of the doses are going.
    That was my bad, you’re correct.  It seems that they have agreed to send 60 million to the hardest hit countries, and he is being pressured to send all 60 million to India.  Have to assume most of not all will end up going over there though. 
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  • static111
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    I don’t see the point of not releasing the technology to the world at this point.  It was largely taxpayer funded and as this is a global problem wouldn’t this help us get to a global solution faster?
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    static111 said:
    I don’t see the point of not releasing the technology to the world at this point.  It was largely taxpayer funded and as this is a global problem wouldn’t this help us get to a global solution faster?
    Is it a technology issue or is it a supply chain and production issue?
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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    I don’t see the point of not releasing the technology to the world at this point.  It was largely taxpayer funded and as this is a global problem wouldn’t this help us get to a global solution faster?
    Biden has committed to sending the production materials needed to manufacture to India.  
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    static111 said:
    I don’t see the point of not releasing the technology to the world at this point.  It was largely taxpayer funded and as this is a global problem wouldn’t this help us get to a global solution faster?
    I am good with my tax dollars going towards reducing suffering, but I often don’t like the government’s methods of implementing these services as they often get political and cost twice what they should so that the “right” companies or people get their pockets filled.  

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    static111 said:
    I don’t see the point of not releasing the technology to the world at this point.  It was largely taxpayer funded and as this is a global problem wouldn’t this help us get to a global solution faster?
    Is it a technology issue or is it a supply chain and production issue?
    It’s a political issue...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    static111 said:
    I don’t see the point of not releasing the technology to the world at this point.  It was largely taxpayer funded and as this is a global problem wouldn’t this help us get to a global solution faster?
    Is it a technology issue or is it a supply chain and production issue?
    It's neither.  Nor is it political as PJPower jumps to that conclusion without evidence.

    President Biden said he's in touch with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi as the country battles a stunning Covid-19 surge and said it is his "intention" to eventually send vaccines to India.

    "With regard to India, I spoke at length with Modi, the prime minister. We are sending immediately a whole series of help that he needs, including providing for those remdesivir and other drugs that are able to deal with this and prevent in some cases but help recovery," Biden said in White House remarks.

    "Secondly, we are sending the actual mechanical parts that are needed for the machinery they have to build a vaccine. And that's being done as well. We're also discussing —I've discussed with him when we'll be able to send actual vaccines to India, which will be my intention to do," he added.

    Biden also noted that when the US was "in a bind in the very beginning, India helped us."

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,355
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    I don’t see the point of not releasing the technology to the world at this point.  It was largely taxpayer funded and as this is a global problem wouldn’t this help us get to a global solution faster?
    Is it a technology issue or is it a supply chain and production issue?
    It's neither.  Nor is it political as PJPower jumps to that conclusion without evidence.

    President Biden said he's in touch with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi as the country battles a stunning Covid-19 surge and said it is his "intention" to eventually send vaccines to India.

    "With regard to India, I spoke at length with Modi, the prime minister. We are sending immediately a whole series of help that he needs, including providing for those remdesivir and other drugs that are able to deal with this and prevent in some cases but help recovery," Biden said in White House remarks.

    "Secondly, we are sending the actual mechanical parts that are needed for the machinery they have to build a vaccine. And that's being done as well. We're also discussing —I've discussed with him when we'll be able to send actual vaccines to India, which will be my intention to do," he added.

    Biden also noted that when the US was "in a bind in the very beginning, India helped us."

    I thought India had 4 companies making a vaccine?
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/widespread-skepticism-and-misinformation-hamper-indias-vaccine-rollout

    "This vaccination center in Delhi is ready to give 400 people shots every day, but authorities say, on most days, they see half that number."
    "Since India started administering the second vaccine dose two weeks ago, half of the front-line workers and nearly 40 percent of healthcare workers have not shown up."

    Why should this be an American problem?  How is keeping restaurants in America at 50% capacity going to help or hurt the people of India?  I am not connecting the dot.

    There are other reasons why people are not filling up the appointment slots that have nothing to do with vaccine skepticism.

    Indians rush for vaccines as coronavirus toll tops 200,000

    https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-total-deaths-covid-19-passes-200000-mark-2021-04-28/

    And the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are getting sick daily, with thousands dying, is a human problem, and will continue to be a human problem and an "American problem" until the situation is under control worldwide. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Oh, and the Sinclair Broadcast Group doesn't have an agenda, dontcha know?

    Seems Tejas has had a lot of motorcycle and gun shot deaths of late.
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    edited April 2021
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/widespread-skepticism-and-misinformation-hamper-indias-vaccine-rollout

    "This vaccination center in Delhi is ready to give 400 people shots every day, but authorities say, on most days, they see half that number."
    "Since India started administering the second vaccine dose two weeks ago, half of the front-line workers and nearly 40 percent of healthcare workers have not shown up."

    Why should this be an American problem?  How is keeping restaurants in America at 50% capacity going to help or hurt the people of India?  I am not connecting the dot.

    There are other reasons why people are not filling up the appointment slots that have nothing to do with vaccine skepticism.

    Indians rush for vaccines as coronavirus toll tops 200,000

    https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-total-deaths-covid-19-passes-200000-mark-2021-04-28/

    And the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are getting sick daily, with thousands dying, is a human problem, and will continue to be a human problem and an "American problem" until the situation is under control worldwide. 
    It is absolutely a human problem.  We should do everything we can as a country to help other countries with vaccination/resources/etc

    However, no one has been able to answer my question.

    How does continuing to keep business/gathering restrictions in place in America once the vaccine is readily available (in America) help the human problem/situation in India?


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  • gvn2fly1421
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    Oh, and the Sinclair Broadcast Group doesn't have an agenda, dontcha know?

    Seems Tejas has had a lot of motorcycle and gun shot deaths of late.
    Prime example of an individual cheering for failure.  Next he will tell you about "Deathsantis", yet he will not mention about how Texas and Florida are in the same position as the blue states, if not way better off. 

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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,400
    edited April 2021
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/widespread-skepticism-and-misinformation-hamper-indias-vaccine-rollout

    "This vaccination center in Delhi is ready to give 400 people shots every day, but authorities say, on most days, they see half that number."
    "Since India started administering the second vaccine dose two weeks ago, half of the front-line workers and nearly 40 percent of healthcare workers have not shown up."

    Why should this be an American problem?  How is keeping restaurants in America at 50% capacity going to help or hurt the people of India?  I am not connecting the dot.

    There are other reasons why people are not filling up the appointment slots that have nothing to do with vaccine skepticism.

    Indians rush for vaccines as coronavirus toll tops 200,000

    https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indias-total-deaths-covid-19-passes-200000-mark-2021-04-28/

    And the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are getting sick daily, with thousands dying, is a human problem, and will continue to be a human problem and an "American problem" until the situation is under control worldwide. 
    It is absolutely a human problem.  We should do everything we can as a country to help other countries with vaccination/resources/etc

    However, no one has been able to answer my question.

    How does continuing to keep business/gathering restrictions in place in America once the vaccine is readily available (in America) help the human problem/situation in India?


    I'll answer, it doesn't, but I also don't think people will see the uptick in business they think if restrictions are removed right now. America is moving on to the land of first world problems like normal though. People are bitching about access to concerts and events and want their American needs met! People generally don't care about the shitty living conditions of their own neighbors, so we know they don't care about other countries unless it impacts their leisure activities (oil, electronics, vacation, etc.).

    We're offering 2100 vaccinations at our campus to all our employees, students and their family members the next 3 days and have less than 100 people signed up so far. Supply outweighs demand already and we're in a highly urban setting. I can't imagine the piss poor rates in the rural areas, but that's up to those people. Time to move on from the non-believers and as soon as all adults have had a shot, get something that is available for children so parents can decide what they want to do. 


    It's a hopeless situation...
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