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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Line for test or vaccine?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJNB said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

    Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends



    I know lots of people 55 and under that already got the first dose. Wonder what that happens to their second shot timeline. 
    That’s a good question.   I work with a lady who had her 1st dose...was not going to get second dose until June or July....maybe they’ll have it sorted out soon...
    I don't think you have to get the same shot for the second dose. 
    Then if that’s the case...then it should be ok...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    Meltdown99 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJNB said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

    Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends



    I know lots of people 55 and under that already got the first dose. Wonder what that happens to their second shot timeline. 
    That’s a good question.   I work with a lady who had her 1st dose...was not going to get second dose until June or July....maybe they’ll have it sorted out soon...
    I don't think you have to get the same shot for the second dose. 
    Then if that’s the case...then it should be ok...
    As Often Reading pointed out, that's not correct.  https://www.healthline.com/health-news/can-we-mix-and-match-covid-19-vaccines-experts-say-not-yet
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited March 2021
    mrussel1 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Line for test or vaccine?
    Line to pick up a take-it-yourself test. 

    Hoping for a negative result in 48h.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Zod said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

    Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends




    This is really discouraging. BC was just in the process of rolling out vaccinations for teachers and front line workers with the AZ vaccine and now this. We (the province) are also increasing our restrictions as of today due to an increase in cases. Every time it seems like there is an end in sight, something blows up again. 

    I don't personally think that a risk of about 1 in 1,000,000 is high enough to suspend the vaccinations but it's looking more and more like we're swimming against the tide of public opinion on this vaccine. I wonder if the wealthier countries are going to decide to just cut this one out. That might be to the gain of the developing nations, so that would be something at least. 
    With the science (or scientific interpretation) constantly changing. I'm not long sure if AZ is a problem?  At first it sounded like they couldn't differentiate between whether the virus cause the clots, or if that many random people in any given population size would have them anyways.   I guess the science changed?

    With cases spiking up here in BC, what's the costs of not using them?  I think the US was sending Canada something like 1.5m doses.  Moderna delayed some shipments again.  Without other vaccines it's going to take a lot longer to vaccinate our population.. shrug.

    If someone offered me the AZ vaccine I'd take it.
    I'm with you. If they offered it I would take it.

    I think we're making a big mistake up here in Canada. This back and forth on AZ is going to cost people their lives.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    dignin said:
    Zod said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

    Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends




    This is really discouraging. BC was just in the process of rolling out vaccinations for teachers and front line workers with the AZ vaccine and now this. We (the province) are also increasing our restrictions as of today due to an increase in cases. Every time it seems like there is an end in sight, something blows up again. 

    I don't personally think that a risk of about 1 in 1,000,000 is high enough to suspend the vaccinations but it's looking more and more like we're swimming against the tide of public opinion on this vaccine. I wonder if the wealthier countries are going to decide to just cut this one out. That might be to the gain of the developing nations, so that would be something at least. 
    With the science (or scientific interpretation) constantly changing. I'm not long sure if AZ is a problem?  At first it sounded like they couldn't differentiate between whether the virus cause the clots, or if that many random people in any given population size would have them anyways.   I guess the science changed?

    With cases spiking up here in BC, what's the costs of not using them?  I think the US was sending Canada something like 1.5m doses.  Moderna delayed some shipments again.  Without other vaccines it's going to take a lot longer to vaccinate our population.. shrug.

    If someone offered me the AZ vaccine I'd take it.
    I'm with you. If they offered it I would take it.

    I think we're making a big mistake up here in Canada. This back and forth on AZ is going to cost people their lives.
    This is true there  is no more risk than a paracetamol and this is costing lives and harming 1000s.  No confidence is so sad. This is the non profit vaccine  remember  that


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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited March 2021
    Well if 4 in 100,000 (middle aged women, mostly) get Vaccine-Induced Prothrombotic Immune Thrombocytopenia (VIPIT), with 40% fatality, how does this compare with Covid-19 complications? 

    We have had 11 (7 this year) deaths in BC in that age group. Total COVID-19 in BC almost 40,000. Percent of those in that age group X (as below).

    Anyone wonder why this info isn't easy for the average Tishy to understand, and-or can solve this math?



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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    So 2 people die every 100,000.
    20 in a million. Are these  facts?


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    edited March 2021
    We have 30 million doses that  would mean 600 dead? My maths  might be shit


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJNB said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/astrazeneca-under-55-1.5968128

    Suspend AstraZeneca use for people under 55, vaccine committee recommends



    I know lots of people 55 and under that already got the first dose. Wonder what that happens to their second shot timeline. 
    That’s a good question.   I work with a lady who had her 1st dose...was not going to get second dose until June or July....maybe they’ll have it sorted out soon...
    I don't think you have to get the same shot for the second dose. 
    Then if that’s the case...then it should be ok...
    As Often Reading pointed out, that's not correct.  https://www.healthline.com/health-news/can-we-mix-and-match-covid-19-vaccines-experts-say-not-yet
    That makes sense....
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    lastexitlondon said:
    So 2 people die every 100,000.
    20 in a million. Are these  facts?
    Do you mean from Covid or from the clots?  I read that the clots are 4 in 100,000 and 40% die.  

    So for 30 million doses, I come up with 480 deaths.  
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    Clots yeah. 
    I haven't  seen anything  about 480 deaths  from this post vaccine 


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    I know one thing  it confuses the fuck out of me 


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    So 2 people die every 100,000.
    20 in a million. Are these  facts?
    Do you mean from Covid or from the clots?  I read that the clots are 4 in 100,000 and 40% die.  

    So for 30 million doses, I come up with 480 deaths.  
    Saw someone comparing that, to clots from birth control pills, which is allowed to be sold.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,351
    This from the Head Coach of Baylor?




  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,972
    cutz said:
    This from the Head Coach of Baylor?




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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 31,024
    lastexitlondon said:
    Clots yeah. 
    I haven't  seen anything  about 480 deaths  from this post vaccine 
    I'm just doing the math on 30 million doses.  Is that the amount of doses of AZ that has been administered?
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Clots yeah. 
    I haven't  seen anything  about 480 deaths  from this post vaccine 
    I'm just doing the math on 30 million doses.  Is that the amount of doses of AZ that has been administered?
    Busy busy day for me so I haven’t been able to read into this further. The last time I read any data on this was two days ago though it seems like weeks now. At that point I believe there were 30 identified cases. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited March 2021
    Did a second self-test just now, because I had in my stressful easter-fever booked one to be delived to my door but then I couldn't cancel it when I instead could pick one up at my local clinic...

    ... weird that the instructions were a bit different for the two tests. One you were to swab far inside one of your nostrils (scary), the other you had to swab both of them.

    DID YOU SWAB ONE OR TWO NOSTRILS JAMILY?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,108
    Throat then nose. Both sides of both I believe 


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