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  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,379
    River Cross is one of my favorites. I am still loving Gigaton just the way it is
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,205
    Tjm007 said:
    Like all PJ albums it would be better if the band said "NO" to EV a few more times.


    100%. Recycled Riffs and a solo song that runs 6 mins?! No thanks.  
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,205
    F Me In The Brain said:
    It were comprised of the first four songs and called an EP 
    Nailed. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    NewJPage said:
    Its starts out freaking great then settles in to "pretty good" for most of the second half. Comes then goes should be on an Ed solo album though
    I agree. 

    I also find the tracklist weird, with starting with all the OUMPH! and then just have a string of slow songs. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,614
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    When they decided to sell River Cross to Verizon and allow it to be the theme song for a multinational corporation's brand, they should have removed it from the album, and never spoken about it again. 

    I don't dislike Never Destination, but if they had to get it down to 10 songs that one is the most "this is a template for a rock song" out of the songs on the album.

    (River Cross is better than Retrograde though, even with it being tarnished)
    They didn't make it the theme song. Do you hear it on every Verizon commercial? No
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    edited March 2021
    igotid88 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    When they decided to sell River Cross to Verizon and allow it to be the theme song for a multinational corporation's brand, they should have removed it from the album, and never spoken about it again. 

    I don't dislike Never Destination, but if they had to get it down to 10 songs that one is the most "this is a template for a rock song" out of the songs on the album.

    (River Cross is better than Retrograde though, even with it being tarnished)
    They didn't make it the theme song. Do you hear it on every Verizon commercial? No
    I live in Sweden. Verizon isn't a thing here. I sure hope to never hear a Pearl Jam song be the theme song for one or every event where Telenor or Telia commercials run.

    Or a Beatles song:
    https://youtu.be/t9ePbEFX8_4
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,614
    If people actually gave it a chance and didn't prejudge because they didn't like Dance. 

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  • Kearn5y
    Kearn5y Ireland Posts: 3,035
    I gave it a listen today because of this thread. Still cant get into it. Love Quick Escape, Seven O' Clock and Alright (probably hated by most). Who Ever Said would have been great but for the lull half way through which will become a clapper when played live. Superblood Wolfmoon could have been better bar the gibberish shit less than a minute in. DOC ending is a big no no, still cant get that song. Take the Long Way is just bland. Never Destination is OK.. Buckle Up is Ok.
    River Cross, I had high hopes for this even though it didnt grab my attention when Eddie played it in Dublin. Hoped it would become a full band song for the album. Its just meh.  
    Kearnsy
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    igotid88 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    When they decided to sell River Cross to Verizon and allow it to be the theme song for a multinational corporation's brand, they should have removed it from the album, and never spoken about it again. 

    I don't dislike Never Destination, but if they had to get it down to 10 songs that one is the most "this is a template for a rock song" out of the songs on the album.

    (River Cross is better than Retrograde though, even with it being tarnished)
    They didn't make it the theme song. Do you hear it on every Verizon commercial? No
    I live in Sweden. Verizon isn't a thing here. I sure hope to never hear a Pearl Jam song be the theme song for one or every event where Telenor or Telia commercials run.

    Or a Beatles song:
    https://youtu.be/t9ePbEFX8_4
    I think I only ever heard it once, during the SuperBowl maybe? It was a one-off ad, definitely not a theme song. And if I remember, it tied into support for fire fighters too or something.
    I do think an organ solo version would have been better, but I'm glad it is on the album.
    I'd get rid of Buckle Up and maybe Alright.
    Definitely a better album that LB. I like it about as much as Backspacer. And I like Backspacer better than most do here.
  • DukeSpirit
    DukeSpirit Posts: 278
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    matt84 said:
    90% of the songs were replaced by better ones. Hate to be so negative towards this band, but it’s definitely the weakest album they’ve put out in my opinion.

    And yes - Can’t Deny Me should definitely have been included.
    What record are you listening to? This record blows backspacer and Lightning bolt out of the water. This is a great album. To say it’s weak is odd to me IMO. Listen again maybe. 
    I feel the same. Don't like it at all. 
  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,558
    ...they could’ve played it live!

    really like the album, such a shame that they haven’t had the chance to give it the live treatment. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,499
    If anything, I'd cut two songs, because albums should be about 10 tracks and 45 minutes.

    Maybe Superblood Wolfmoon and Buckle Up? 


    But for the most part, the album is great. doesn't need and real tweaking.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,499
    I do like how people not only made up tracks that don't exist, but they are having the band cop someone else's sound and not even sounds from PJs more dominant years.

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,499
    IDK if it was the studios or a step in the production, recording to tape or just old mastering techniques, but those mid 90s albums (Vs- Yield) had a looseness that really complimented their sound. I feel like everything since s/t has been a bit too polished. And I get maybe thats what they want now, but I really miss that airiness of the recordings.

    Gigaton, does come close to that and I really love that about this record.

  • turner78
    turner78 Atlanta, GA Posts: 180
    Tim Simmons said:
    IDK if it was the studios or a step in the production, recording to tape or just old mastering techniques, but those mid 90s albums (Vs- Yield) had a looseness that really complimented their sound. I feel like everything since s/t has been a bit too polished. And I get maybe thats what they want now, but I really miss that airiness of the recordings.

    Gigaton, does come close to that and I really love that about this record.

    This seems to happen when bands have been around for awhile. Way too much tinkering on each song in the studio trying to get it perfect. 

    With that being said, I really like most of the songs. Not really a fan of Never Destination or Take the Long Way. 
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,614
    What's with the Super Blood hate?
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  • SM187650
    SM187650 Canada Posts: 834
    Take the long way is my favorite track. 
  • mcdevittpb
    mcdevittpb Posts: 252
    Double album.  4 Sides. Add Can’t Deny Me, Get It Back, and Of The Earth. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    This is my favorite album since yield. It will be interesting to see how the songs translate live.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    it wasn't released amid a global pandemic when no one was paying attention, nor had energy to pay attention

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