2020 Fall North American rumour thread

Weston1283 · March 2021

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

RiotAct10 · March 2021

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

However, from CNN's article,
"In addition, fully vaccinated people should continue basic safety precautions, including: wearing a mask that fits well and keeping physical distance in public; avoiding medium- and large-sized crowds; avoiding poorly ventilated public spaces; washing hands frequently; and getting tested for Covid-19 if they feel sick."

PJNB · March 2021

RiotAct10 said:

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

However, from CNN's article,
"In addition, fully vaccinated people should continue basic safety precautions, including: wearing a mask that fits well and keeping physical distance in public; avoiding medium- and large-sized crowds; avoiding poorly ventilated public spaces; washing hands frequently; and getting tested for Covid-19 if they feel sick."

That has nothing to do with vaccinated people getting together with no restrictions indoors though. The key is everyone has to be vaccinated to lift the restrictions.

Weston1283 · March 2021

RiotAct10 said:

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

However, from CNN's article,
"In addition, fully vaccinated people should continue basic safety precautions, including: wearing a mask that fits well and keeping physical distance in public; avoiding medium- and large-sized crowds; avoiding poorly ventilated public spaces; washing hands frequently; and getting tested for Covid-19 if they feel sick."

Well yes, this isn’t a green light for concerts. But it’s a first step in getting back to normal. The CDC recommending “no masks” In any scenario, especially indoors, shows how far along we are

Get_Right · March 2021

Well, for the average person, the vaccination will not be available until "Summer 2021" here in Westchester County NY. Agree with the comments saying this is just getting started. I hope things are safe by Q4. I booked my first trip to Austin, TX in late October and it felt SO GOOD. Hope it will be safe to go.

SomethingCreative · March 2021

FWIW Vaccine roll out is onto the next phase in Michigan (grocery and food workers, among others), I’m already scheduled for this week.

IlliniGuy76 · March 2021

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

I've been saying this ad nauseum - at some point there will be "new" guidelines that if people want to attend relatively full capacity indoor concerts/sporting events you have to have a CDC card showing you're fully vaccinated. That will not happen TILL they have locked down research that shows how long someone is immune from the virus having been fully vaccinated.

IlliniGuy76 · March 2021

Weston1283 said:

RiotAct10 said:

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

However, from CNN's article,
"In addition, fully vaccinated people should continue basic safety precautions, including: wearing a mask that fits well and keeping physical distance in public; avoiding medium- and large-sized crowds; avoiding poorly ventilated public spaces; washing hands frequently; and getting tested for Covid-19 if they feel sick."

Well yes, this isn’t a green light for concerts. But it’s a first step in getting back to normal. The CDC recommending “no masks” In any scenario, especially indoors, shows how far along we are

The CDC is recommending no masks/no social distancing with people who are two weeks past their second dose & have been fully vaccinated - or I believe something like 8-9% of the total population. We have a LONG ways to go.

And they still don't know/have concrete research showing how long you're safe being fully vaccinated - it's the very reason they still have the "no travel" suggestion.

BloodMeridian80 · March 2021

IlliniGuy76 said:

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

I've been saying this ad nauseum - at some point there will be "new" guidelines that if people want to attend relatively full capacity indoor concerts/sporting events you have to have a CDC card showing you're fully vaccinated. That will not happen TILL they have locked down research that shows how long someone is immune from the virus having been fully vaccinated.

Postulating is fun. For a couple of reasons, I think liability waivers are the more likely outcome for large events.

IlliniGuy76 · March 2021

BloodMeridian80 said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

I've been saying this ad nauseum - at some point there will be "new" guidelines that if people want to attend relatively full capacity indoor concerts/sporting events you have to have a CDC card showing you're fully vaccinated. That will not happen TILL they have locked down research that shows how long someone is immune from the virus having been fully vaccinated.

Postulating is fun. For a couple of reasons, I think liability waivers are the more likely outcome for large events.

NOTHING will happen till they are 100% sure how long someone is immune from the virus after having been fully vaccinated.

RatherStarved · March 2021

It’s huge that fully vaccinated can interact. That means just a matter of time for the rollout. Sure, it’s not weeks. It’s months. But think about where we were 5 months ago. We didn’t even know that it would ever be possible. Now there’s a half decent chance we could be singing Better Man with 20k friends this fall, at least outdoors. It’s pretty amazing that this is even a discussion.

BloodMeridian80 · March 2021

IlliniGuy76 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

I've been saying this ad nauseum - at some point there will be "new" guidelines that if people want to attend relatively full capacity indoor concerts/sporting events you have to have a CDC card showing you're fully vaccinated. That will not happen TILL they have locked down research that shows how long someone is immune from the virus having been fully vaccinated.

Postulating is fun. For a couple of reasons, I think liability waivers are the more likely outcome for large events.

NOTHING will happen till they are 100% sure how long someone is immune from the virus after having been fully vaccinated.

I disagree.

jimjam1982 · March 2021

It's amazing. They went from wearing masks for 90 days after vaccination and doing your part to just do what you want.. so much for "science" hah! It's almost like most of us were right all along. At least I can see them back walking this last 52 weeks of non-sense. Anyways, get on with the announced dates or start canceling the shows and let us re-build our itineraries.

KS80184 · March 2021

Looks like the Killers moved their UK and Ireland 2021 shows to 2022.

The Killers have once again rescheduled their UK stadium tour dates, pushing the huge shows back to summer 2022.

The band had initially been set out to hit the road in support of ‘Imploding The Mirage‘ in summer 2020, before those dates were delayed to this year and set to kick off in May 2021. However, due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic and with mass outdoor gatherings currently not set to return in the UK until June 21, the gigs have now been rescheduled until next summer – with an extra show added in Falkirk.

“UK and Ireland friends – we’re sorry, but there’s no way around this,” said the band in a statement. “These will be the same great shows, but we have to move them to next year. All tickets will be honoured, so we really hope you can still join us!”

BloodMeridian80 · March 2021

jimjam1982 said:

It's amazing. They went from wearing masks for 90 days after vaccination and doing your part to just do what you want.. so much for "science" hah! It's almost like most of us were right all along. At least I can see them back walking this last 52 weeks of non-sense. Anyways, get on with the announced dates or start canceling the shows and let us re-build our itineraries.

Such extremes everywhere. Scientific knowledge evolves especially new science. Who’s most of us? 560,000 Americans dying is not nonsense. Pretty safe to say, rebuild that itinerary.

on2legs · March 2021

KS80184 said:

Looks like the Killers moved their UK and Ireland 2021 shows to 2022.

The Killers have once again rescheduled their UK stadium tour dates, pushing the huge shows back to summer 2022.

The band had initially been set out to hit the road in support of ‘Imploding The Mirage‘ in summer 2020, before those dates were delayed to this year and set to kick off in May 2021. However, due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic and with mass outdoor gatherings currently not set to return in the UK until June 21, the gigs have now been rescheduled until next summer – with an extra show added in Falkirk.

“UK and Ireland friends – we’re sorry, but there’s no way around this,” said the band in a statement. “These will be the same great shows, but we have to move them to next year. All tickets will be honoured, so we really hope you can still join us!”

Glad to see they are allowing people to keep their tickets.

IlliniGuy76 · March 2021

BloodMeridian80 said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

BloodMeridian80 said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Weston1283 said:

CDC has just stated that fully vaccinated individuals can gather indoors, without masks

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-can-gather-without-masks-b9775dcde0254037e012ea9447e49917

I've been saying this ad nauseum - at some point there will be "new" guidelines that if people want to attend relatively full capacity indoor concerts/sporting events you have to have a CDC card showing you're fully vaccinated. That will not happen TILL they have locked down research that shows how long someone is immune from the virus having been fully vaccinated.

Postulating is fun. For a couple of reasons, I think liability waivers are the more likely outcome for large events.

NOTHING will happen till they are 100% sure how long someone is immune from the virus after having been fully vaccinated.

I disagree.

While we are all beyond eager to get back and listen to a live music in a packed crowd - there's a reason the CDC is still recommending no travel; it's for this very exact reason.

You could be fully vaccinated and sitting next to someone who isn't/is at risk and w/o knowing how long you're actually "safe" (being fully vaccinated) that's why they're still making this recommendation. It's all about being indoors/enclosed spaces - a liability form doesn't address people attending a concert that are potentially exposed/coming down with the virus/flooding health care systems being ill.

RatherStarved · March 2021

Either it is right that vaccinated people can gather, or it is right there shouldn’t be travel by vaccinated people. The two recommendations side by side make no sense.

IlliniGuy76 · March 2021

RatherStarved said:

Either it is right that vaccinated people can gather, or it is right there shouldn’t be travel by vaccinated people. The two recommendations side by side make no sense.

Incorrect. Both live in the same world - w/o knowing how long fully vaccinated people are: 1) Actually "safe" 2) If they can/cannot pass the virus along to other people who are at risk... both will live in the same world till those two topics are resolved once and for all. It's why the CDC recco's delivered yesterday were very specific to gatherings with people who are fully vaccinated/after two weeks of last shot.

PJNB · March 2021

jimjam1982 said:

It's amazing. They went from wearing masks for 90 days after vaccination and doing your part to just do what you want.. so much for "science" hah! It's almost like most of us were right all along. At least I can see them back walking this last 52 weeks of non-sense. Anyways, get on with the announced dates or start canceling the shows and let us re-build our itineraries.

Come one. This is not do what you want when you are vaccinated. Whether you agree with the guidelines or not I am 100% fine with either way but to portray it as vaccinated people can now just do what ever they want is flat out wrong. You have to know this right?

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