2020 Fall North American rumour thread

JeBurkhardt

It's an outside show, but they rescheduled the Black Crowes date in St Louis from a previous date to the end of July. I bought tickets, so we will see what happens.

ymalkiel

HughFreakingDillon said:

my June 5 Rage show is still not cancelled/rescheduled. 

I’ve got a ticket for August 7th at MSG. Looks like that one’s still a go for now. I’ve got a GA ticket. Should be interesting if the show goes on as planned. 

tschav

Each state's opening up differently. Chicago baseball is low capacity, same in Boston. Wouldn't be surprised if each state's seeing positive signs (and probably feeling pressure) to warrant opening some things. Will be interesting to see where we're at by Memorial Day weekend... either vaccinations are effectively getting the job done or are there too many loose restrictions that cause us to take a step back again.

Still holding onto my Ohana hotel reservation, but not ready to pull the trigger on a ticket quite yet.

jimjam1982

Local radio has a "big" concert announcement Wednesday. First one in like 13 months 

Its going to happen by fall.

RatherStarved

jimjam1982 said:

Local radio has a "big" concert announcement Wednesday. First one in like 13 months 

Its going to happen by fall.

What is local for you, if you don’t mind sharing?

jimjam1982

RatherStarved said:

jimjam1982 said:

Local radio has a "big" concert announcement Wednesday. First one in like 13 months 

Its going to happen by fall.

What is local for you, if you don’t mind sharing?

Phoenix.

Kevinman

igotid88 said:

RatherStarved said:

igotid88 said:

With Biden saying the vaccine should be available to everyone no later than May 1. We might get an announcement within the next couple of months

He said eligible, not available.  There’s a difference there.  He also said July 4 goal for small gatherings.  Not large.  But it’s progress for sure.  

If you're eligible. It most likely will be available.

That has not even been close to the case in Chicago area yet.  Most eligible are still finding it very difficult to find available.
Hopefully that changes in a month or so but it doesn’t seem like it would with more people becoming eligible than vaccines being delivered.

cutz

ymalkiel said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

my June 5 Rage show is still not cancelled/rescheduled. 

I’ve got a ticket for August 7th at MSG. Looks like that one’s still a go for now. I’ve got a GA ticket. Should be interesting if the show goes on as planned. 

My friend has Tickets for one of those RATM shows at MSG. 

But, will those shows go on?

https://www.nme.com/en_asia/news/music/rage-against-the-machine-wont-play-socially-distanced-shows-well-never-be-sellouts-2895588

Rage Against The Machine won’t play socially-distanced shows: “We’ll never be sellouts”

"It's gotta be a shared experience"

ByPatrick Clarke

5th March 2021

Rage Against The Machine will never consider socially-distanced gigs, the band’s bassist Tim Commerford has said.

Discussing Rage Against The Machine’s planned 2020 tour dates, all of which were postponed due to coronavirus, Commerford said that “musicians got kicked to the curb” during the pandemic.

“It’s stressful for me, just because I look at Rage and go, like, ‘Fuck, we rely on an audience,'” he told TooFab. “You go to Rage shows to see the audience as much as to see the band, and we need that. We’re one of those bands that need that.”

He continued: “We’ll never be one of these sellouts that’s gonna go play a drive-in show or play a venue that holds 100,000 people and there’s only 10,000 people there. That’s bullshit. Rage will never do that. It’s not a good show unless the audience is going off too. It’s gotta be a shared experience.”

In March 2020 the band announced an initial postponement of what were due to be Rage’s first shows since 2011, and in May said that shows would not take place until 2021.

“Rage Against the Machine will commence our tour at such a time when we are confident it will be safe for our fans,” the band said on Instagram.

The band’s North American tour dates, with support from Run The Jewels, are currently still set to take place this June and run until August.

ComeToTX

Kevinman said:

igotid88 said:

RatherStarved said:

igotid88 said:

With Biden saying the vaccine should be available to everyone no later than May 1. We might get an announcement within the next couple of months

He said eligible, not available.  There’s a difference there.  He also said July 4 goal for small gatherings.  Not large.  But it’s progress for sure.  

If you're eligible. It most likely will be available.

That has not even been close to the case in Chicago area yet.  Most eligible are still finding it very difficult to find available.
Hopefully that changes in a month or so but it doesn’t seem like it would with more people becoming eligible than vaccines being delivered.

What about an hour outside of Chicago? I couldn’t find it here in Austin but was easily able to get both shots with short drives outside the metro area. 

Kevinman

ComeToTX said:

Kevinman said:

igotid88 said:

RatherStarved said:

igotid88 said:

With Biden saying the vaccine should be available to everyone no later than May 1. We might get an announcement within the next couple of months

He said eligible, not available.  There’s a difference there.  He also said July 4 goal for small gatherings.  Not large.  But it’s progress for sure.  

If you're eligible. It most likely will be available.

That has not even been close to the case in Chicago area yet.  Most eligible are still finding it very difficult to find available.
Hopefully that changes in a month or so but it doesn’t seem like it would with more people becoming eligible than vaccines being delivered.

What about an hour outside of Chicago? I couldn’t find it here in Austin but was easily able to get both shots with short drives outside the metro area. 

Actually opposite here...easier in the city than the suburbs.

CO278952

cutz said:

ymalkiel said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

my June 5 Rage show is still not cancelled/rescheduled. 

I’ve got a ticket for August 7th at MSG. Looks like that one’s still a go for now. I’ve got a GA ticket. Should be interesting if the show goes on as planned. 

My friend has Tickets for one of those RATM shows at MSG. 

But, will those shows go on?

https://www.nme.com/en_asia/news/music/rage-against-the-machine-wont-play-socially-distanced-shows-well-never-be-sellouts-2895588

Rage Against The Machine won’t play socially-distanced shows: “We’ll never be sellouts”

"It's gotta be a shared experience"

ByPatrick Clarke

5th March 2021

Rage Against The Machine will never consider socially-distanced gigs, the band’s bassist Tim Commerford has said.

Discussing Rage Against The Machine’s planned 2020 tour dates, all of which were postponed due to coronavirus, Commerford said that “musicians got kicked to the curb” during the pandemic.

“It’s stressful for me, just because I look at Rage and go, like, ‘Fuck, we rely on an audience,'” he told TooFab. “You go to Rage shows to see the audience as much as to see the band, and we need that. We’re one of those bands that need that.”

He continued: “We’ll never be one of these sellouts that’s gonna go play a drive-in show or play a venue that holds 100,000 people and there’s only 10,000 people there. That’s bullshit. Rage will never do that. It’s not a good show unless the audience is going off too. It’s gotta be a shared experience.”

In March 2020 the band announced an initial postponement of what were due to be Rage’s first shows since 2011, and in May said that shows would not take place until 2021.

“Rage Against the Machine will commence our tour at such a time when we are confident it will be safe for our fans,” the band said on Instagram.

The band’s North American tour dates, with support from Run The Jewels, are currently still set to take place this June and run until August.

It’s awesome they are taking this position. 

bbiggs

CO278952 said:

cutz said:

ymalkiel said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

my June 5 Rage show is still not cancelled/rescheduled. 

I’ve got a ticket for August 7th at MSG. Looks like that one’s still a go for now. I’ve got a GA ticket. Should be interesting if the show goes on as planned. 

My friend has Tickets for one of those RATM shows at MSG. 

But, will those shows go on?

https://www.nme.com/en_asia/news/music/rage-against-the-machine-wont-play-socially-distanced-shows-well-never-be-sellouts-2895588

Rage Against The Machine won’t play socially-distanced shows: “We’ll never be sellouts”

"It's gotta be a shared experience"

ByPatrick Clarke

5th March 2021

Rage Against The Machine will never consider socially-distanced gigs, the band’s bassist Tim Commerford has said.

Discussing Rage Against The Machine’s planned 2020 tour dates, all of which were postponed due to coronavirus, Commerford said that “musicians got kicked to the curb” during the pandemic.

“It’s stressful for me, just because I look at Rage and go, like, ‘Fuck, we rely on an audience,'” he told TooFab. “You go to Rage shows to see the audience as much as to see the band, and we need that. We’re one of those bands that need that.”

He continued: “We’ll never be one of these sellouts that’s gonna go play a drive-in show or play a venue that holds 100,000 people and there’s only 10,000 people there. That’s bullshit. Rage will never do that. It’s not a good show unless the audience is going off too. It’s gotta be a shared experience.”

In March 2020 the band announced an initial postponement of what were due to be Rage’s first shows since 2011, and in May said that shows would not take place until 2021.

“Rage Against the Machine will commence our tour at such a time when we are confident it will be safe for our fans,” the band said on Instagram.

The band’s North American tour dates, with support from Run The Jewels, are currently still set to take place this June and run until August.

It’s awesome they are taking this position. 

Agree. Look forward to seeing them when it happens. 

cp3iverson

Honestly i could see it as “we’re not playing for only half of our expected revenue”.  Rage is a huge legacy act like PJ, DMB, U2, etc who can play shows at their leisure.  They have numbers in mind if they’re even going to tour.  Cut those numbers down to a third and they might not want to waste their time. 

Less popular bands like you hear on SiriusXMU or something are the ones who depend on touring to pay their bills.  They’ll definitely be trying to play as many socially distanced shows as they can at theaters and clubs.  Plus i dont think Dinosaur Jr are sellouts.  They’ve played drive in shows and huge venues that are squared off every ten feet. 

SM187650

I have tickets for ratm in June in Edmonton. Not really getting why it hasn’t been postponed yet.... can’t really see this one happening. 

Jim Tressel

Since some of you may be flush with stimulus cash, let me know if you are interested and happen to be in the Akron-Cleveland area. Maybe saving on fees and the hassle of shipping it, we can make a deal. 

PJNB

WWE is hoping to have 45,000 fans per night at this year's two-night WrestleMania in Tampa, Florida.

Originally shooting for 30,000 per night, city officials told hotel officials in a meeting last week that WWE would like to see Raymond James Stadium at 75% capacity for April 10th and 11th. Capacity would have been 60,000 pre-pandemic.

It's unknown whether that request has been approved. Florida governor Ron DeSantis lifted all COVID-19 restrictions last fall, so it would be up to the city (Tampa Sports Authority) to determine how many fans could be allowed in.

WWE has not announced any number publicly, instead saying a "limited" number of tickets will go on-sale this Tuesday with prices from $35 to $2500 per show.

In this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Dave Meltzer speculated what the company's approach could be:

"A Tampa WrestleMania was not a given to be a sellout as opposed to New York or Dallas which did sell out. They also could test it out by putting a smaller number on sale this week and judge from the response and then add tickets and whatever they feel they can sell becomes capacity. But with tickets going on sale so late in the game, there isn’t much time to go out and maybe put 25,000 or 30,000 seats on sale, and then judging by the demand for those tickets, then put another 15,000 to 20,000 more on sale a week later."




I am going to be watching this one closely. These states that are allowing these events to happen are having their spectators to be the guinea pigs if its safe to have shows like this again with a population that is just starting to get vaccinated. 

PeterED

cp3iverson said:

Honestly i could see it as “we’re not playing for only half of our expected revenue”.  Rage is a huge legacy act like PJ, DMB, U2, etc who can play shows at their leisure.  They have numbers in mind if they’re even going to tour.  Cut those numbers down to a third and they might not want to waste their time. 

Less popular bands like you hear on SiriusXMU or something are the ones who depend on touring to pay their bills.  They’ll definitely be trying to play as many socially distanced shows as they can at theaters and clubs.  Plus i dont think Dinosaur Jr are sellouts.  They’ve played drive in shows and huge venues that are squared off every ten feet. 

Yeah...RATM implying that bands who play to drive-ins or reduced capacity are sell-outs really seems tone-deaf to the majority of working musicians who have had next to no income this year and don’t have a fat bank account to rely on.

The ignorance of their own privilege - at least Commerford’s - is remarkable, frankly. Can’t imagine Morello being on board with this kind of messaging representing the band.

3days

PeterED said:

cp3iverson said:

Honestly i could see it as “we’re not playing for only half of our expected revenue”.  Rage is a huge legacy act like PJ, DMB, U2, etc who can play shows at their leisure.  They have numbers in mind if they’re even going to tour.  Cut those numbers down to a third and they might not want to waste their time. 

Less popular bands like you hear on SiriusXMU or something are the ones who depend on touring to pay their bills.  They’ll definitely be trying to play as many socially distanced shows as they can at theaters and clubs.  Plus i dont think Dinosaur Jr are sellouts.  They’ve played drive in shows and huge venues that are squared off every ten feet. 

Yeah...RATM implying that bands who play to drive-ins or reduced capacity are sell-outs really seems tone-deaf to the majority of working musicians who have had next to no income this year and don’t have a fat bank account to rely on.

The ignorance of their own privilege - at least Commerford’s - is remarkable, frankly. Can’t imagine Morello being on board with this kind of messaging representing the band.

Agreed. I know a blues musician who is playing socially distanced shows (20% capacity, masks), and I have zero problems with that decision.

Similarly, I respect Rage's position to not play socially distanced shows which would either decrease their per show profit, OR overprice tickets for fans. Unfortunately, I think Tim made that statement without much consideration for acts that don't play arenas, stadiums, or sheds. Also, I don't understand how playing a (hypothetical) quarter full show would mean that Rage is selling out to THA MAN. The more I think about it, maybe Rage is selling out by insisting on capacity gigs. 

mcgruff10

So is there a chance that the European tour happens? What about Ohana and sea hear now?

RatherStarved

I give the Euro tour no chance, with the possible exception of London.  Ohana and SHN, I’d say 50/50.  Just speculation.  I don’t know anything.