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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited March 2021
    Sigh........Apparently the young generation are now targeting Eminem because of all of his past work....


    :lol:    Proud that my kids object to this.  Raised them right!  
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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,362
    tbergs said:
    FiveBelow said:
    Bold move, Football Team. It is about time men get some attention on a football field...
    Oh boy, middle aged men everywhere are going to be pissed. Probably need to self soothe with more 3.2 and a vintage cheerleader calendar on the wall.
    Tough crowd.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    cp3iverson said:
    Sigh........Apparently the young generation are now targeting Eminem because of all of his past work....


    :lol:    Proud that my kids object to this.  Raised them right!  
    It’s all my 13yo nephew listens to.

    I think Eminem is going to be ok. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,569
    Merkin Baller said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Sigh........Apparently the young generation are now targeting Eminem because of all of his past work....


    :lol:    Proud that my kids object to this.  Raised them right!  
    It’s all my 13yo nephew listens to.

    I think Eminem is going to be ok. 
    This is like Farenheight 451 type stuff.

    If we want to witch hunt everything from the past instead of learn from it then there won't be anything left.  Hell MTV could be cancelled for their views years ago.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,330
    i saw on twitter that Pepe Le Pew got canceled from the new space jam movie. it is probably about time.

    last night I saw that they were trying to get "Rape Skunk" trending.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,569
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw on twitter that Pepe Le Pew got canceled from the new space jam movie. it is probably about time.

    last night I saw that they were trying to get "Rape Skunk" trending.
    Hahahaha!.. He was always overly aggressive.  It IS a cartoon though.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,525
    They should have gotten "CGI" cancelled for that new Space Jam movie.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Rape Skunk 🙄

    After having read a bit on Monsieur LePew, I can completely see the issue. That said, I grew up watching Pepe do his thing, and can say I was more affected by actual events in my life at that age than I was by him. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,330
    hedonist said:
    Rape Skunk 🙄

    After having read a bit on Monsieur LePew, I can completely see the issue. That said, I grew up watching Pepe do his thing, and can say I was more affected by actual events in my life at that age than I was by him. 
    well, as an impressionable young boy, he made it seem appropriate to act like that. which clearly it wasn't.

    i am not saying all boys model themselves off of cartoon characters, but when we imitate the 3 stooges, anything can have an influence.

     looking back at pepe now, it is hard to believe that they got away with making that. i guess the times were different, but that is no excuse.  that poor woman skunk said no to him 1000 times and he kept pursuing her.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,858
    tempo_n_groove said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw on twitter that Pepe Le Pew got canceled from the new space jam movie. it is probably about time.

    last night I saw that they were trying to get "Rape Skunk" trending.
    Hahahaha!.. He was always overly aggressive.  It IS a cartoon though.
    I saw that and Speedy Gonzales too. Seems a bit silly to me. But does anyone under 30 even know who they are? My little kids certainly would have no idea who either are. I have a feeling we're going to look back on these in 20 years like how people tried to blame metal groups in the 80s and 90s for violence. Pretty sure no kid ever grew up to be a rapist because of some cartoon skunk. Those cartoons of that era are all full of overdone violence. Its a silly cartoon, I think even little kids understand that. Or do we not let kids see Elmer Fudd now because he always walks around with a loaded shotgun?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    what's funny is that any rational person could see that Pepe was cringe, and the female cat always gave him his comeuppance. 

    this is the metoo version of banning the violence in bugs bunny cartoons. I can understand it, even if I think it's kinda dumb. 

    not one kid bought an acme anvil and accidentally dropped it on their own head because of a faulty catapult. 

    sometimes these things go too far. I get it with some things, other things you just have to roll your eyes. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    I see both sides of this. 

    Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children. 

    I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,858
    Merkin Baller said:
    I see both sides of this. 

    Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children. 

    I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show. 
    Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable. 


  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    mace1229 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    I see both sides of this. 

    Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children. 

    I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show. 
    Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable. 


    It's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,569
    mace1229 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    I see both sides of this. 

    Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children. 

    I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show. 
    Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable. 


    Bolded that last part.

    There are other things I remember that I liked that just aren't around anymore.  There was a Japanese beetle in Blue Racer or in Pink Panther the ant spinoff?  The WB off shoots with lines like "and a space, for the mother inlaw...", Heckyl and Jeckyl.  I liked Speedy Gonzales too.

    You could get rid of Daffy Duck episodes where Bugs makes fun of his stuttering?

    The list goes on and on...
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,525
    edited March 2021
    Didn't really grow up with the Looney Tunes or the WB-characters (rented the Roadrunner VHS though when we visited our aunt once). But I know of the skunk character.

    But is he written as OVERLY-HORNY or OVERLY IN-LOVE ?
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,664
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Didn't really grow up with the Looney Tunes or the WB-characters (rented the Ruadrunner VHS though when we visited our aunt once). But I know of the skunk character.

    But is he written as OVERLY-HORNY or OVERLY IN-LOVE ?
    he is overly in love but he's super physically agressive, where the female cat is constantly trying to escape his unwanted advances. he usually traps her in various ways so she can't get away. i can see where a lot of people would get triggered by that type of thing. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,525
    edited March 2021
    Ah okey, so the ill-smelling skunk goes after a cat? Not another skunk? Does he believe she is a skunk -- or does he think that he can DATE WAY ABOVE HIS LEAGUE?!

    Yeah. I can picture there being a lot of "once comical" situations, where it is now "wait, is that cartoon character not letting that other cartoon characters leave when she clearly has told him no?"
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,858
    edited March 2021
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Ah okey, so the ill-smelling skunk goes after a cat? Not another skunk? Does he believe she is a skunk -- or does he think that he can DATE WAY ABOVE HIS LEAGUE?!

    Yeah. I can picture there being a lot of "once comical" situations, where it is now "wait, is that cartoon character not letting that other cartoon characters leave when she clearly has told him no?"
    From what I remember, he always thinks she is a skunk. She gets accidentally painted with a white stripe, or something else happens, that makes him think she is a skunk too. And he falls in love. And yes, is overly aggressive with his love. But I really don't see it as any different than other characters who are overly violent towards their counterpart in countless other cartoons. Its a silly premise with silly actions. Never meant to be an example or taken seriously. 
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,443
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mace1229 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    I see both sides of this. 

    Watching those shows as a kid I always knew he was in the wrong... but it's weird to have an over-sexed / overly horny character constantly & aggressively pursuing a perpetually uninterested target in a program intended for children. 

    I don't think I or anyone else is any worse off for having grown up with this, but it is an odd character for a children's show. 
    Isn't that the point? That he's a weird character to have in a kid's cartoon. Weren't pretty much all of the characters in the golden age of animation just silly pointless characters? That's what made them. You have a bad hunter obsessed with catching the same rabbit, Foghorn who is a rooster and a southern socialite. A Coyote who is obsessed with catching the same bird with elaborate traps that never work. You could probably find a reason for every single character of that era to not be shown today for violence or stereotypes. I don't think anyone is worse off for having seen those cartoons, nor did any kid grow up thinking those behaviors are normal or acceptable. 


    Bolded that last part.

    There are other things I remember that I liked that just aren't around anymore.  There was a Japanese beetle in Blue Racer or in Pink Panther the ant spinoff?  The WB off shoots with lines like "and a space, for the mother inlaw...", Heckyl and Jeckyl.  I liked Speedy Gonzales too.

    You could get rid of Daffy Duck episodes where Bugs makes fun of his stuttering?

    The list goes on and on...
    I don't know if you could ever claim that no one was negatively influenced. Backyard wrestling craziness was a product of people watching WWF and then deciding to replicate it no matter how dangerous and stupid it was. Sure, no one bought an Acme Anvil, but you also couldn't go on Amazon and do so like today. I'm sure plenty of kids got hurt experimenting with their own homemade contraptions. Not really data that anyone tracked or is available for analysis.

    And circling back to the whole Pepe argument, I would find it very hard to believe there was not some sort of psychological influence on children from seeing that behavior. We know media images, videos and ads have an affect on influencing cultural and behavioral norms. Whether it's objectifying women or thinking Joe Camel is cool. I would also wager that several kids re-enacted scenes of chasing girls around the playground like it was a Pepe v. striped cat scenario, whether playful and joking or not.

    Bottom line, there is definitely an influence.
    It's a hopeless situation...

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