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With the caveat that this is among my top half of PJ albums and I've listened to it far too many times, I would:
- Get rid of Never Destination and River Cross. 10 songs is enough. Never Destination is a good song but doesn't really add anything that's not already on the album. River Cross doesn't do anything for me, and Retrograde would be the perfect closer.
- Switch up the order of Comes Then Goes with Buckle Up. Buckle Up --> CTG bothers me for a reason that I'm unable to articulate.
Discuss.
- Get rid of Never Destination and River Cross. 10 songs is enough. Never Destination is a good song but doesn't really add anything that's not already on the album. River Cross doesn't do anything for me, and Retrograde would be the perfect closer.
- Switch up the order of Comes Then Goes with Buckle Up. Buckle Up --> CTG bothers me for a reason that I'm unable to articulate.
Discuss.
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When they decided to sell River Cross to Verizon and allow it to be the theme song for a multinational corporation's brand, they should have removed it from the album, and never spoken about it again.
I don't dislike Never Destination, but if they had to get it down to 10 songs that one is the most "this is a template for a rock song" out of the songs on the album.
(River Cross is better than Retrograde though, even with it being tarnished)"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
That's it!
01 Who Ever Said
02 SuperBlood WolfMoon
03 DOTC
04 Quick Escape
05 Alright
05 Get It Back
06 Retrograde (Short Version)
07 Can't Deny Me
08 Seven O'Clock
09 Unreleased Pixies-esque track wrote by Ed Vedder w/ JA killer bass lines
10 River Cross (Pump Organ version)Post edited by raindog80 on"I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
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raindog80 said:That's it!
01 Who Ever Said
02 SuperBlood WolfMoon
03 DOTC
04 Quick Escape
05 Alright
05 Get It Back
06 Retrograde (short version)
07 Never Destination
08 Seven O'Clock
09 Unreleased Pixies-esque song wrote by Ed Vedder w/ JA killer bass lines
10 River Cross
01 Can't Deny Me (overture version)
02 Who Ever Said
03 SuperBlood WolfMoon
04 DOTC (album-version with a "less dead" production more in line with rest of the songs)
05 Quick Escape
06 Alright
07 Get It Back
08 Buckle Up
09 Never Destination
10 Seven O'Clock
11 Unreleased Neil Young-and-Crazy-Horse-esque song wrote by Ed Vedder w/ JA killer bass lines
12 Can't Deny Me
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:"I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
pearljamonline.it0 -
Spiritual_Chaos said:11 Unreleased Neil Young-and-Crazy-Horse-esque song wrote by Ed Vedder w/ JA killer bass lines"I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
pearljamonline.it0 -
90% of the songs were replaced by better ones. Hate to be so negative towards this band, but it’s definitely the weakest album they’ve put out in my opinion.
And yes - Can’t Deny Me should definitely have been included.0 -
The world is coming around on Can't Deny Me.
YES! FINALLY! Year Zero is upon us.https://youtu.be/d8RH8RO0eR0
Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Only way to improve it is change the title. Not a fan of that title. Great album tho0
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matt84 said:90% of the songs were replaced by better ones. Hate to be so negative towards this band, but it’s definitely the weakest album they’ve put out in my opinion.
And yes - Can’t Deny Me should definitely have been included.0 -
matt84 said:90% of the songs were replaced by better ones."I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
pearljamonline.it0 -
THEBIBLEISTEN said:This is a great album. To say it’s weak is odd to me IMO. Listen again maybe."I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
pearljamonline.it0 -
Ok, done some edits
01 Who Ever Said
02 SuperBlood WolfMoon
03 DOTC
04 Quick Escape
05 Alright
05 Get It Back
06 Retrograde (Short Version)
07 Can't Deny Me
08 Seven O'Clock
09 Unreleased Pixies-esque track wrote by Ed Vedder w/ JA killer bass lines
10 River Cross (Pump Organ version)
"I like beautiful melodies telling me terrible things" - Tom Waits
pearljamonline.it0 -
THEBIBLEISTEN said:matt84 said:90% of the songs were replaced by better ones. Hate to be so negative towards this band, but it’s definitely the weakest album they’ve put out in my opinion.
And yes - Can’t Deny Me should definitely have been included.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh0 -
THEBIBLEISTEN said:matt84 said:90% of the songs were replaced by better ones. Hate to be so negative towards this band, but it’s definitely the weakest album they’ve put out in my opinion.
And yes - Can’t Deny Me should definitely have been included.0 -
Love the album. LB and BS were not for me on the whole, and I find issues with every album post-Yield, although I like all their work. Gigaton ranks up there in the top 1/2 for me too, and since it does, I wouldn’t change a thing. There’s a decent chance that whatever I find weak now, won’t be in the future.0
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"Take The Long Way" is probably my least favorite song on the album. Don't hate it... I like Matt having a moment on the album, but I'm generally not a huge fan of his songs. I think "Take the Long Way" is better than "Get Right" (should've been left off Riot Act) and "Evacuation" (should've been left off Binaural), but it's still probably my least favorite Gigaton track.1998: 6/26, 6/27, 6/29
2000: 8/15, 8/18, 10/9, 10/11, 10/12
2003: 6/18, 6/21, 6/22
2005: 9/9, 9/28
2006: 5/16, 5/17, 6/26, 6/27
2007: 8/5
2009: 8/23, 8/24
2010: 5/3, 5/4, 5/21
2011: 9/3, 9/4, 9/11, 9/12
2013: 7/19, 11/16
2014: 10/3, 10/9, 10/12, 10/17
2016: 4/16, 8/20, 8/22
2018: 8/18, 8/20, 9/2
2022: 9/18
2023: 8/31, 9/2, 9/5
2024: 5/18, 6/290 -
Need to hear these songs live before I can truely have an opinion.1996.....Toronto
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
2026.....?????????????????????????????????????????0 -
Like all PJ albums it would be better if the band said "NO" to EV a few more times.
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It were comprised of the first four songs and called an EPThe love he receives is the love that is saved0
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To me it's the best since riot act. Its starts out freaking great then settles in to "pretty good" for most of the second half. Comes then goes should be on an Ed solo album though6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/160
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