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  • even flow - question mark
    even flow - question mark Posts: 1,568
    There is a reason why masses of people protest privatization all over the world. referencing texax
     

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,812
    mace1229 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tbergs said:
    benjs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
    How apathetic of you. Do you always mock those whose suffering you don't deem 'worthy'?

    While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.

    On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient. 

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941


    So once in a century is more like last decade? Huh, sounds about right from the GOP POV. We've got a lot of this century left...

    Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!
    Of course it’s a sign of climate change.  Do you really think at this point that the planet is saveable?  Sorry, way to many fucking people on this earth...and humans are to stupid to quit breeding...even many animals know not to over breed...seems their instincts tells them to many of them...then there will not be enough food.  If they get that concept...and humans don’t...

    Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.  

    And so what if we go extinct.  Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...


    Climate change aside, I don't see this world surviving more than a few hundred years at the rate we grow. There wont be enough resources when our population is tripled. That is likely to happen in the next 100 years. Some scientist think Earth is already at 70-80% capacity. 
    Check out the Earth Overshoot Day ("Earth Overshoot Day marks the date when humanity’s demand for ecological resources and services in a given year exceeds what Earth can regenerate in that year") here:


    As can be seen, last year was an improvement over the last several, likely due to COVID.  But the general trend is quite clear.  There is just no way humans can continue to consume resources at the rate we have been and expect to continue on as a viable, civilized species.  Our consumption will lead to massive die-off of many species, and in many cases extinction.  The earth will continue on, of course, and life will likely once again thrive rather than die off at the rate it is, but our species will probably check out earlier than we need to because of our consumption.

    I think if we want to reverse this trend, we would be better off educating and encouraging people to reduce consumption rather than berate and scold as some (not you) tend to do.  I'm can feel as cynical as the next guy, but I also know angst is not going to lead to positive change, so I try to be more encouraging and also try to do my little part to reduce consumption. 

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,071
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tbergs said:
    benjs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
    How apathetic of you. Do you always mock those whose suffering you don't deem 'worthy'?

    While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.

    On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient. 

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941


    So once in a century is more like last decade? Huh, sounds about right from the GOP POV. We've got a lot of this century left...

    Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!
    Of course it’s a sign of climate change.  Do you really think at this point that the planet is saveable?  Sorry, way to many fucking people on this earth...and humans are to stupid to quit breeding...even many animals know not to over breed...seems their instincts tells them to many of them...then there will not be enough food.  If they get that concept...and humans don’t...

    Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.  

    And so what if we go extinct.  Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...


    Climate change aside, I don't see this world surviving more than a few hundred years at the rate we grow. There wont be enough resources when our population is tripled. That is likely to happen in the next 100 years. Some scientist think Earth is already at 70-80% capacity. 
    Check out the Earth Overshoot Day ("Earth Overshoot Day marks the date when humanity’s demand for ecological resources and services in a given year exceeds what Earth can regenerate in that year") here:


    As can be seen, last year was an improvement over the last several, likely due to COVID.  But the general trend is quite clear.  There is just no way humans can continue to consume resources at the rate we have been and expect to continue on as a viable, civilized species.  Our consumption will lead to massive die-off of many species, and in many cases extinction.  The earth will continue on, of course, and life will likely once again thrive rather than die off at the rate it is, but our species will probably check out earlier than we need to because of our consumption.

    I think if we want to reverse this trend, we would be better off educating and encouraging people to reduce consumption rather than berate and scold as some (not you) tend to do.  I'm can feel as cynical as the next guy, but I also know angst is not going to lead to positive change, so I try to be more encouraging and also try to do my little part to reduce consumption. 

    Unfortunately I don't think much will change until we are forced to. Everyone lives a life of excess. Many of us here travel to see Pearl Jam. Even Eddie has a house way too big with a basketball court inside. The more money we have, the more wasteful we are. Some people are better than others, but I don't think anyone is really exempt from contributing more than they truly need to. 
    Once fossil fuels are gone, and the rich can't heat and cool their multiple mansions, or fly private jets, and we can't take road tips for the weekend anymore, then we'll be forced to live a minimalist lifestyle. It won't be too late, but it will change life as we know it, and many probably wont survive. I'm fearing that time is closer than I used to think. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,232
    edited February 2021
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,513
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    That's horrible. I can't imagine. I hope you get power soon.
    Post edited by Sea on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,232
    edited February 2021
    tbergs said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    That's horrible. I can't imagine. I hope you get power soon.
    This is probably up there with the worst disaster responses in the US of all time.  Thanks for the well wishes, I’m hoping for power to be restored soon as well.  Can’t even work so there is lost income pure disaster caused by profit over people
    Post edited by Sea on
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    Just out of curiosity, because I have seen you say it a couple times, what do you mean by “decorative fireplace”?  Different from a regular fireplace?
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,232
    edited February 2021
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    Just out of curiosity, because I have seen you say it a couple times, what do you mean by “decorative fireplace”?  Different from a regular fireplace?
    Not meant to heat the apartment. Maybe for impressing dates.  T first night I got a fire going I discovered that it was covered in paint, so we had the windows open to get the smoke from the burning paint out.  It’s about the size to hold 3 logs and the heat radiates about 5 ft from the fire.  Ambient temp away from the fire rarely reaches above 41 degrees.
    Post edited by Sea on
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,117
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    tbergs said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    That's horrible. I can't imagine. I hope you get power soon.
    This is probably up there with the worst disaster responses in the US of all time.  Thanks for the well wishes, I’m hoping for power to be restored soon as well.  Can’t even work so there is lost income pure disaster caused by profit over people
    no disrespect to your current situation, but i'd imagine new orleans katrina far outweighs this. 
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,033
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    I'm so sorry. Really hoping it gets better quickly. We had a lot of people get their power back in my area today. Hope the same for you and your family.

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    tbergs said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    That's horrible. I can't imagine. I hope you get power soon.
    This is probably up there with the worst disaster responses in the US of all time.  Thanks for the well wishes, I’m hoping for power to be restored soon as well.  Can’t even work so there is lost income pure disaster caused by profit over people
    Holy hell. Keep safe, and warm as you can. I hope you have some food at your place. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,232
    edited February 2021
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    tbergs said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    That's horrible. I can't imagine. I hope you get power soon.
    This is probably up there with the worst disaster responses in the US of all time.  Thanks for the well wishes, I’m hoping for power to be restored soon as well.  Can’t even work so there is lost income pure disaster caused by profit over people
    no disrespect to your current situation, but i'd imagine new orleans katrina far outweighs this. 
    I don’t think I said it didn’t.  I said it was up there with the worst.
    Post edited by Sea on
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tbergs said:
    benjs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
    How apathetic of you. Do you always mock those whose suffering you don't deem 'worthy'?

    While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.

    On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient. 

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941


    So once in a century is more like last decade? Huh, sounds about right from the GOP POV. We've got a lot of this century left...

    Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!
    Of course it’s a sign of climate change.  Do you really think at this point that the planet is saveable?  Sorry, way to many fucking people on this earth...and humans are to stupid to quit breeding...even many animals know not to over breed...seems their instincts tells them to many of them...then there will not be enough food.  If they get that concept...and humans don’t...

    Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.  

    And so what if we go extinct.  Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...



    I agree with all of this except for the insinuation that the planet is not savable.  The planet will continue on with or without us.

    But to my way of thinking (and probably many others here as well), none of what you said is an excuse to mock people who are suffering through a crisis that is not of their individual making.  Humanity as a whole has a part in all of this, of course.  That includes you and me.  You and use energy, maybe drive a car, and consume natural resources beyond our mere basic needs. 

    But your words were not directed to humanity as a whole.  They were directed at suffering human beings.  I don't know why you think that's OK.
    Oh gosh.  A little over dramatic much.  Jeesh, they had a snow storm knocked out the electrical grid deal with it.  This mess will continually play out over and over...

    and you do not know if the earth will survive.  But to be clear, I want the earth to survive...but humans need to go extinct...that’s the only the earth will survive long term.

    as for me I’m just going to enjoy what years I got left.


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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    Just out of curiosity, because I have seen you say it a couple times, what do you mean by “decorative fireplace”?  Different from a regular fireplace?
    Not meant to heat the apartment. Maybe for impressing dates.  T first night I got a fire going I discovered that it was covered in paint, so we had the windows open to get the smoke from the burning paint out.  It’s about the size to hold 3 logs and the heat radiates about 5 ft from the fire.  Ambient temp away from the fire rarely reaches above 41 degrees.
    Ah, I see what you mean now. I originally thought it wasn’t even a real fireplace but now I see that it’s one of those ones for ambiance, not efficiency. 

    I was out of power for three days in December 1998 (?) in Ottawa, due to the big ice storm. No heat, no lights, no cooked food. I would go to work and warm up and eat there, because the hospital had power, and then go home to a dark, silent freezing house. It was horrible but at least I had that respite during the day. On day four I drove to another neighbourhood that had their power back and a friend let me use their spare bedroom; I crashed and slept for ten hours, because I hadn’t been able to sleep with it being so cold in the house. The next day the power came back. 

    I hope you find a way to stay safe and get warm. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,812
    mace1229 said:
    brianlux said:
    mace1229 said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tbergs said:
    benjs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
    How apathetic of you. Do you always mock those whose suffering you don't deem 'worthy'?

    While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.

    On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient. 

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941


    So once in a century is more like last decade? Huh, sounds about right from the GOP POV. We've got a lot of this century left...

    Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!
    Of course it’s a sign of climate change.  Do you really think at this point that the planet is saveable?  Sorry, way to many fucking people on this earth...and humans are to stupid to quit breeding...even many animals know not to over breed...seems their instincts tells them to many of them...then there will not be enough food.  If they get that concept...and humans don’t...

    Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.  

    And so what if we go extinct.  Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...


    Climate change aside, I don't see this world surviving more than a few hundred years at the rate we grow. There wont be enough resources when our population is tripled. That is likely to happen in the next 100 years. Some scientist think Earth is already at 70-80% capacity. 
    Check out the Earth Overshoot Day ("Earth Overshoot Day marks the date when humanity’s demand for ecological resources and services in a given year exceeds what Earth can regenerate in that year") here:


    As can be seen, last year was an improvement over the last several, likely due to COVID.  But the general trend is quite clear.  There is just no way humans can continue to consume resources at the rate we have been and expect to continue on as a viable, civilized species.  Our consumption will lead to massive die-off of many species, and in many cases extinction.  The earth will continue on, of course, and life will likely once again thrive rather than die off at the rate it is, but our species will probably check out earlier than we need to because of our consumption.

    I think if we want to reverse this trend, we would be better off educating and encouraging people to reduce consumption rather than berate and scold as some (not you) tend to do.  I'm can feel as cynical as the next guy, but I also know angst is not going to lead to positive change, so I try to be more encouraging and also try to do my little part to reduce consumption. 

    Unfortunately I don't think much will change until we are forced to. Everyone lives a life of excess. Many of us here travel to see Pearl Jam. Even Eddie has a house way too big with a basketball court inside. The more money we have, the more wasteful we are. Some people are better than others, but I don't think anyone is really exempt from contributing more than they truly need to. 
    Once fossil fuels are gone, and the rich can't heat and cool their multiple mansions, or fly private jets, and we can't take road tips for the weekend anymore, then we'll be forced to live a minimalist lifestyle. It won't be too late, but it will change life as we know it, and many probably wont survive. I'm fearing that time is closer than I used to think. 

    Sadly, I must agree.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,812
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tbergs said:
    benjs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
    How apathetic of you. Do you always mock those whose suffering you don't deem 'worthy'?

    While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.

    On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient. 

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941


    So once in a century is more like last decade? Huh, sounds about right from the GOP POV. We've got a lot of this century left...

    Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!
    Of course it’s a sign of climate change.  Do you really think at this point that the planet is saveable?  Sorry, way to many fucking people on this earth...and humans are to stupid to quit breeding...even many animals know not to over breed...seems their instincts tells them to many of them...then there will not be enough food.  If they get that concept...and humans don’t...

    Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.  

    And so what if we go extinct.  Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...



    I agree with all of this except for the insinuation that the planet is not savable.  The planet will continue on with or without us.

    But to my way of thinking (and probably many others here as well), none of what you said is an excuse to mock people who are suffering through a crisis that is not of their individual making.  Humanity as a whole has a part in all of this, of course.  That includes you and me.  You and use energy, maybe drive a car, and consume natural resources beyond our mere basic needs. 

    But your words were not directed to humanity as a whole.  They were directed at suffering human beings.  I don't know why you think that's OK.
    Oh gosh.  A little over dramatic much.  Jeesh, they had a snow storm knocked out the electrical grid deal with it.  This mess will continually play out over and over...

    and you do not know if the earth will survive.  But to be clear, I want the earth to survive...but humans need to go extinct...that’s the only the earth will survive long term.

    as for me I’m just going to enjoy what years I got left.



    Oh gosh, oh golly no.  Not drama queen/ suicide king here, man.  Just saying it like it is. 

    But you're right.  The earth will not survive.  It will be burned to a crisp by Jewish laser beams.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,380
    edited February 2021
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    Looks like you will be getting some relief temperature wise this weekend. Hoping you get power back up soon. 
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tbergs said:
    benjs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
    How apathetic of you. Do you always mock those whose suffering you don't deem 'worthy'?

    While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.

    On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient. 

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941


    So once in a century is more like last decade? Huh, sounds about right from the GOP POV. We've got a lot of this century left...

    Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!
    Of course it’s a sign of climate change.  Do you really think at this point that the planet is saveable?  Sorry, way to many fucking people on this earth...and humans are to stupid to quit breeding...even many animals know not to over breed...seems their instincts tells them to many of them...then there will not be enough food.  If they get that concept...and humans don’t...

    Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.  

    And so what if we go extinct.  Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...



    I agree with all of this except for the insinuation that the planet is not savable.  The planet will continue on with or without us.

    But to my way of thinking (and probably many others here as well), none of what you said is an excuse to mock people who are suffering through a crisis that is not of their individual making.  Humanity as a whole has a part in all of this, of course.  That includes you and me.  You and use energy, maybe drive a car, and consume natural resources beyond our mere basic needs. 

    But your words were not directed to humanity as a whole.  They were directed at suffering human beings.  I don't know why you think that's OK.
    Oh gosh.  A little over dramatic much.  Jeesh, they had a snow storm knocked out the electrical grid deal with it.  This mess will continually play out over and over...

    and you do not know if the earth will survive.  But to be clear, I want the earth to survive...but humans need to go extinct...that’s the only the earth will survive long term.

    as for me I’m just going to enjoy what years I got left.



    Oh gosh, oh golly no.  Not drama queen/ suicide king here, man.  Just saying it like it is. 

    But you're right.  The earth will not survive.  It will be burned to a crisp by Jewish laser beams.
    That’s downright Jew-ist :lol:

    Someone wants to be so blasé about others’ suffering and keep crowing about it, let him at it. Shows true colors, though they’re pretty shitty hues. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,812
    edited February 2021
    hedonist said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    tbergs said:
    benjs said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    It’s called freakish weather.  You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...

    The wimps without power and are whining will survive.  My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...

    They are all alive with awesome stories...

    https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
    How apathetic of you. Do you always mock those whose suffering you don't deem 'worthy'?

    While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.

    On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient. 

    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941


    So once in a century is more like last decade? Huh, sounds about right from the GOP POV. We've got a lot of this century left...

    Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!
    Of course it’s a sign of climate change.  Do you really think at this point that the planet is saveable?  Sorry, way to many fucking people on this earth...and humans are to stupid to quit breeding...even many animals know not to over breed...seems their instincts tells them to many of them...then there will not be enough food.  If they get that concept...and humans don’t...

    Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.  

    And so what if we go extinct.  Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...



    I agree with all of this except for the insinuation that the planet is not savable.  The planet will continue on with or without us.

    But to my way of thinking (and probably many others here as well), none of what you said is an excuse to mock people who are suffering through a crisis that is not of their individual making.  Humanity as a whole has a part in all of this, of course.  That includes you and me.  You and use energy, maybe drive a car, and consume natural resources beyond our mere basic needs. 

    But your words were not directed to humanity as a whole.  They were directed at suffering human beings.  I don't know why you think that's OK.
    Oh gosh.  A little over dramatic much.  Jeesh, they had a snow storm knocked out the electrical grid deal with it.  This mess will continually play out over and over...

    and you do not know if the earth will survive.  But to be clear, I want the earth to survive...but humans need to go extinct...that’s the only the earth will survive long term.

    as for me I’m just going to enjoy what years I got left.



    Oh gosh, oh golly no.  Not drama queen/ suicide king here, man.  Just saying it like it is. 

    But you're right.  The earth will not survive.  It will be burned to a crisp by Jewish laser beams.
    That’s downright Jew-ist :lol:

    Someone wants to be so blasé about others’ suffering and keep crowing about it, let him at it. Shows true colors, though they’re pretty shitty hues. 

    LOL, t'would be if I weren't so keen on several marvelous Jews I know in my time.  In fact, one of the biggest compliments ever made toward me was from my first wife's mother (aka my first mother-in-law) who upon first meeting me threw out her arms and cried, "Oh! It's Ishmael from Lebanon!  I'm so happy to meet you!"  I told her, "I'm very happy to meet you too, ma'am, but actually my name is Brian and it's my father who is from Lebanon.  Lebanon Pennsylvania."  (She thought Jews were from Lebanon) :lol:
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,232
    edited February 2021
    FiveBelow said:
    static111 said:
    In Austin. 90+ hours no heat no electricity, salvaging wood from the park to burn in the decorative fireplace to keep the apartment above freezing. Boil water advisory.  Stores out of food. Roads not drivable.  I grew up in the Midwest and this is unacceptable. This weather wouldn’t stop a thing there.
    Looks like you will be getting some relief temperature wise this weekend. Hoping you get power back up soon. 
    Yeah the rising temps will help.  This would have been a cake walk if it wasn’t freezing. Thanks
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