Ongoing PG&E power outages
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We just had a big storm here... started Sunday night into Tuesday morning...got about 30 cm total and another storm coming Thursday. Our hydro stays on. But I love snow storms, being out in them, taking my dog for a walk and 4 by 4ing in 25 cm of snow...fun.
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Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133I'm thinking the smart thing to do is begin (overdue) to gear infrastructure for "freakish" weather because freakish weather is becoming the new norm.This was all foreseen by a professional meteorologist friend (not the TV actor "weather anchors you see on the nightly news) I lived next to clear back in the late 80's. He described everything we are seeing today, not as a fortuneteller, but as a scientist.Society has been asleep for decades. Mother Nature's wake up call is coming through loud and clear."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
RunIntoTheRain said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133This made me angry. When you don't know anything about the situation, please don't speak.I'm 40 miles south of Dallas. I am extremely lucky that my power has stayed on. Millions are without it for DAYS! People with kids are on FB asking for milk, firewood, a place to stay. Gas stations here in town are out of gas. Grocery stores are either closed due to no power or no employees. . The ones open have pretty empty shelves because they aren't getting deliveries. The domino effect of this is very bad and it isn't anywhere near over. So please, zip your lip if all you have to spew is ignorant insults.Totally agree, Run.People die in sever weather events. An elderly man who lives 100 yards downhill from us died a number of years ago when we were all snowed in. I'd have risked my neck going down there to make sure he was OK if I had know he was alone (his kids only lived a few blocks away- I figured they would take care of him. Bad on me for assuming). He wasn't a wimp, he was old. He didn't whine, he died. You really might think about thinking twice before hitting "post comment", Meltdown99."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133I'm thinking the smart thing to do is begin (overdue) to gear infrastructure for "freakish" weather because freakish weather is becoming the new norm.This was all foreseen by a professional meteorologist friend (not the TV actor "weather anchors you see on the nightly news) I lived next to clear back in the late 80's. He described everything we are seeing today, not as a fortuneteller, but as a scientist.Society has been asleep for decades. Mother Nature's wake up call is coming through loud and clear.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Meltdown99 said:brianlux said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133I'm thinking the smart thing to do is begin (overdue) to gear infrastructure for "freakish" weather because freakish weather is becoming the new norm.This was all foreseen by a professional meteorologist friend (not the TV actor "weather anchors you see on the nightly news) I lived next to clear back in the late 80's. He described everything we are seeing today, not as a fortuneteller, but as a scientist.Society has been asleep for decades. Mother Nature's wake up call is coming through loud and clear.Yeah man, we're all laughing, hahahaha.Whatever."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Meltdown99 said:brianlux said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133I'm thinking the smart thing to do is begin (overdue) to gear infrastructure for "freakish" weather because freakish weather is becoming the new norm.This was all foreseen by a professional meteorologist friend (not the TV actor "weather anchors you see on the nightly news) I lived next to clear back in the late 80's. He described everything we are seeing today, not as a fortuneteller, but as a scientist.Society has been asleep for decades. Mother Nature's wake up call is coming through loud and clear.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Meltdown99 said:brianlux said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133I'm thinking the smart thing to do is begin (overdue) to gear infrastructure for "freakish" weather because freakish weather is becoming the new norm.This was all foreseen by a professional meteorologist friend (not the TV actor "weather anchors you see on the nightly news) I lived next to clear back in the late 80's. He described everything we are seeing today, not as a fortuneteller, but as a scientist.Society has been asleep for decades. Mother Nature's wake up call is coming through loud and clear.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
PJPOWER said:Meltdown99 said:brianlux said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133I'm thinking the smart thing to do is begin (overdue) to gear infrastructure for "freakish" weather because freakish weather is becoming the new norm.This was all foreseen by a professional meteorologist friend (not the TV actor "weather anchors you see on the nightly news) I lived next to clear back in the late 80's. He described everything we are seeing today, not as a fortuneteller, but as a scientist.Society has been asleep for decades. Mother Nature's wake up call is coming through loud and clear.
Just as I'm sure people in Churchill laugh at us for thinking it's cold when it's -45. It's all relative.
But most normal, non-sociopathic people don't find humour when there's death caused by such an event.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:PJPOWER said:Meltdown99 said:brianlux said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133I'm thinking the smart thing to do is begin (overdue) to gear infrastructure for "freakish" weather because freakish weather is becoming the new norm.This was all foreseen by a professional meteorologist friend (not the TV actor "weather anchors you see on the nightly news) I lived next to clear back in the late 80's. He described everything we are seeing today, not as a fortuneteller, but as a scientist.Society has been asleep for decades. Mother Nature's wake up call is coming through loud and clear.
Just as I'm sure people in Churchill laugh at us for thinking it's cold when it's -45. It's all relative.
But most normal, non-sociopathic people don't find humour when there's death caused by such an event.0 -
I think it all comes down to money and gambling if it is worth it to winterize so many plants or roll the dice and not spend the money hoping something like this does not happen. Where I work its a no brainer. We start to winterize mid October and stay in that mode until mid April. I live in Canada however and that is just the cost of doing business here.
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PJPOWER said:HughFreakingDillon said:PJPOWER said:Meltdown99 said:brianlux said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133I'm thinking the smart thing to do is begin (overdue) to gear infrastructure for "freakish" weather because freakish weather is becoming the new norm.This was all foreseen by a professional meteorologist friend (not the TV actor "weather anchors you see on the nightly news) I lived next to clear back in the late 80's. He described everything we are seeing today, not as a fortuneteller, but as a scientist.Society has been asleep for decades. Mother Nature's wake up call is coming through loud and clear.
Just as I'm sure people in Churchill laugh at us for thinking it's cold when it's -45. It's all relative.
But most normal, non-sociopathic people don't find humour when there's death caused by such an event.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
From Heather Cox Richardson's latest letter:
"Tim Boyd, the mayor of Colorado City, Texas, put on Facebook: “The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!... If you are sitting at home in the cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your lazy is direct result of your raising! [sic]…. This is sadly a product of a socialist government where they feed people to believe that the FEW will work and others will become dependent for handouts…. I’ll be damned if I’m going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves!... Bottom line quit crying and looking for a handout! Get off your ass and take care of your own family!” “Only the strong will survive and the weak will parish [sic],” he said.
After an outcry, Boyd resigned."
Sounds familiar to certain posts on this thread?
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brianlux said:From Heather Cox Richardson's latest letter:
"Tim Boyd, the mayor of Colorado City, Texas, put on Facebook: “The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!... If you are sitting at home in the cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your lazy is direct result of your raising! [sic]…. This is sadly a product of a socialist government where they feed people to believe that the FEW will work and others will become dependent for handouts…. I’ll be damned if I’m going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves!... Bottom line quit crying and looking for a handout! Get off your ass and take care of your own family!” “Only the strong will survive and the weak will parish [sic],” he said.
After an outcry, Boyd resigned."
Sounds familiar to certain posts on this thread?
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mace1229 said:brianlux said:From Heather Cox Richardson's latest letter:
"Tim Boyd, the mayor of Colorado City, Texas, put on Facebook: “The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!... If you are sitting at home in the cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your lazy is direct result of your raising! [sic]…. This is sadly a product of a socialist government where they feed people to believe that the FEW will work and others will become dependent for handouts…. I’ll be damned if I’m going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves!... Bottom line quit crying and looking for a handout! Get off your ass and take care of your own family!” “Only the strong will survive and the weak will parish [sic],” he said.
After an outcry, Boyd resigned."
Sounds familiar to certain posts on this thread?
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mace1229 said:brianlux said:From Heather Cox Richardson's latest letter:
"Tim Boyd, the mayor of Colorado City, Texas, put on Facebook: “The City and County, along with power providers or any other service owes you NOTHING! I’m sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout!... If you are sitting at home in the cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because your lazy is direct result of your raising! [sic]…. This is sadly a product of a socialist government where they feed people to believe that the FEW will work and others will become dependent for handouts…. I’ll be damned if I’m going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves!... Bottom line quit crying and looking for a handout! Get off your ass and take care of your own family!” “Only the strong will survive and the weak will parish [sic],” he said.
After an outcry, Boyd resigned."
Sounds familiar to certain posts on this thread?
I would hope so! That's certainly part of what taxes are collected for."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.
On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941
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benjs said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.
On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941
Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!Post edited by tbergs onIt's a hopeless situation...0 -
tbergs said:benjs said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.
On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941
Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.And so what if we go extinct. Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...Give Peas A Chance…0 -
Meltdown99 said:tbergs said:benjs said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.
On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941
Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.And so what if we go extinct. Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...
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Meltdown99 said:tbergs said:benjs said:Meltdown99 said:It’s called freakish weather. You do not design your electrical grid fro a freakish storm...
The wimps without power and are whining will survive. My in laws lived through the kingston ice storm with no power for days with 2 little ones...
They are all alive with awesome stories...
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1785475133
While you don't design your electrical grid for a 'freakish storm', you do have to plan for disasters and know how they'll be accommodated. We witnessed the failure of such planning first-hand in Toronto. Decades after ignoring advice to bury power lines rather than supporting them with telephone poles due to the risk of infrastructure freezing and doing major damage to local power distribution, Toronto suffered the costly consequences.
On the Texas side, here's the advice Texas ignored from, go figure, a snowstorm from ten years ago, where Texas was warned through an official report that there's a severe risk of the power grid going down for an extended period of time, if the grid wasn't upgraded to be more weather-resilient.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/texas-was-warned-a-decade-ago-its-grid-was-unprepared-for-cold-1.1564941
Edit: Interesting to note that the first occurrence was in 1989, then 2011 and now 2021. If that isn't a sign of climate change, then I don't know what is. At this rate, should be another occurrence in about 5 years. Buckle up Texas!Maybe climate change and this virus is the beginning of a mass extinction even.And so what if we go extinct. Maybe the earth needs to sit for a few billion of years and hopefully a smarter species will evolve...I agree with all of this except for the insinuation that the planet is not savable. The planet will continue on with or without us.But to my way of thinking (and probably many others here as well), none of what you said is an excuse to mock people who are suffering through a crisis that is not of their individual making. Humanity as a whole has a part in all of this, of course. That includes you and me. You and use energy, maybe drive a car, and consume natural resources beyond our mere basic needs.But your words were not directed to humanity as a whole. They were directed at suffering human beings. I don't know why you think that's OK."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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