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  • mrussel1
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    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Not one member of the repub senate voted for President Biden's $1.9 trillion covid stimulus bill. Not one. But I'll bet almost every single one of them voted for that $1.6 trillion tax cut, 80+% of which went to the top 10% though. Remember that, although not likely most will, and let me know how that trickle down works. Suckers.
    I don’t blame them.
    Their counter was insufficient.  Using the deficit as an excuse is utterly laughable.  
  • cincybearcat
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    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Not one member of the repub senate voted for President Biden's $1.9 trillion covid stimulus bill. Not one. But I'll bet almost every single one of them voted for that $1.6 trillion tax cut, 80+% of which went to the top 10% though. Remember that, although not likely most will, and let me know how that trickle down works. Suckers.
    I don’t blame them.
    Their counter was insufficient.  Using the deficit as an excuse is utterly laughable.  
    Yeah I agree. Notice my post previous to this one 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Not one member of the repub senate voted for President Biden's $1.9 trillion covid stimulus bill. Not one. But I'll bet almost every single one of them voted for that $1.6 trillion tax cut, 80+% of which went to the top 10% though. Remember that, although not likely most will, and let me know how that trickle down works. Suckers.
    I don’t blame them.
    Why not?
    Cause it’s a bad bill. It’s a waste and not targeted enough. But then again the same people didn’t create and deliver what was needed over the last year so fuck them too.
    Both sides are the same. But the tax cut was perfect, right? I’m not sure what was bad in your mind, the previous stimulus, which had a shit administration trying to implement and/or the tax cut, being sound fiscal policy?
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  • mrussel1
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    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Not one member of the repub senate voted for President Biden's $1.9 trillion covid stimulus bill. Not one. But I'll bet almost every single one of them voted for that $1.6 trillion tax cut, 80+% of which went to the top 10% though. Remember that, although not likely most will, and let me know how that trickle down works. Suckers.
    I don’t blame them.
    Their counter was insufficient.  Using the deficit as an excuse is utterly laughable.  
    Yeah I agree. Notice my post previous to this one 
    I was concerned about waste initially as well, but then I read Moody's Analytics analysis of the 1.9 package.  It's overseen by Mark Zandi who is a moderate economist that I respect very much.  If you're inclined, here's the the analysis. Focus specifically on the unemployment rate based on the package.  https://www.moodysanalytics.com/-/media/article/2021/economic-assessment-of-biden-fiscal-rescue-package.pdf
    If you're not a reader, here's an interview with him on CNN

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/01/22/mark-zandi-coronavirus-economy-stimulus-sot-vpx.cnn
  • mickeyrat
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     https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/al-franken-republicans-deficits-1122888/

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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Not one member of the repub senate voted for President Biden's $1.9 trillion covid stimulus bill. Not one. But I'll bet almost every single one of them voted for that $1.6 trillion tax cut, 80+% of which went to the top 10% though. Remember that, although not likely most will, and let me know how that trickle down works. Suckers.
    I don’t blame them.
    Why not?
    Cause it’s a bad bill. It’s a waste and not targeted enough. But then again the same people didn’t create and deliver what was needed over the last year so fuck them too.
    Both sides are the same. But the tax cut was perfect, right? I’m not sure what was bad in your mind, the previous stimulus, which had a shit administration trying to implement and/or the tax cut, being sound fiscal policy?
    The current Biden bailout gives not enough $ where needed and too much where not.

    The previous “stimulus” check from trump was equally awful and only done to try and buy votes.

    The tax plan they came up with was crappy
    as hell.

    All these things can be bad, just cause Biden is president doesn’t make it automatically good. and you are the only one comparing them.
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  • cincybearcat
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    I do wish 1 party actually cared about deficits by the way...when times are good. The republicans has a tremendous opportunity and screwed the pooch. In the midst of a pandemic, the deficit isn’t at the top of the list. But when we are past it, I hope someone takes it seriously.  I’d bet on the moderate Dems to be the ones. The gop is dead for a awhile.
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  • mickeyrat
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    cincybearcat said:
    I do wish 1 party actually cared about deficits by the way...when times are good. The republicans has a tremendous opportunity and screwed the pooch. In the midst of a pandemic, the deficit isn’t at the top of the list. But when we are past it, I hope someone takes it seriously.  I’d bet on the moderate Dems to be the ones. The gop is dead for a awhile.

    since jan 20 gop cares aboit deficits again
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  • Smellyman
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    One party does care about deficits much more than the other.

    It's not the one, or their constituents, who pretend to care though.
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  • Hobbes
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Smellyman said:
    One party does care about deficits much more than the other.

    It's not the one, or their constituents, who pretend to care though.
    Republicans were very concerned about the deficit from 2009 - 2016, and are now very concerned again as of 1/21/21.
  • JeBurkhardt
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    Bentleyspop said:

    Heck yes!
  • Merkin Baller
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  • mickeyrat
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    FEBRUARY 5, 2021, 2:49 PM

    Microsoft halts donations through 2022 to lawmakers who opposed Biden certification

    David Shepardson

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp said on Friday it will suspend all donations by its political action committee (PAC) through 2022 to all U.S. lawmakers who voted to object to the certification of Joe Biden’s election as president.

    FILE PHOTO: A Microsoft logo is seen in Los Angeles, California U.S. November 7, 2017. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson

    The software maker will also suspend contributions through the same period for state officials and organizations who supported objections or suggested the election should be overturned.

    Microsoft said it “will promote and join a conversation with other businesses and organizations that want to strengthen democracy. Recent events have raised issues of importance to PACs across the business community.”

    Microsoft President Brad Smith told employees on Jan. 21 that over the last four years 20% of its PAC donations “had gone to members who voted against the Electoral College.”

    Smith said PACs were important “not because the checks are big, but because of the way the political process works. Politicians in the United States have events, they have weekend retreats. You have to write a check, and then you’re invited, and you participate,” according to a transcript released by the company. “Out of that ongoing effort, a relationship evolves and emerges and solidifies.”

    Smith added there are times “I call people who I don’t personally know. And somebody will say, ‘Well, you know, your folks have always shown up for me at my events, and we have a good relationship, let me see what I can do to help you.’”

    PACs for dozens of major U.S. companies have halted donations to the 147 House and Senate members who voted against Biden’s certification, including Walmart Inc, Marriott Inc, AT&T Inc,, Amazon.com Inc, Comcast and American Express.

    Alphabet Inc’s Google and General Electric Co PACs have also suspended donations through 2022, while Dow Inc said it would extend its suspension to senators voting against certification for up to six years.

    Reporting by David Shepardson; Editing by Franklin Paul and David Gregorio




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  • Lerxst1992
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    Merkin Baller said:


    Like...Springsteen?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Merkin Baller said:

    He ain't wrong.
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  • mrussel1
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Merkin Baller said:


    Like...Springsteen?
    You're saying Bruce displays vulgar patriotism?
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Merkin Baller said:


    Like...Springsteen?

    What? 
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