Capitol Hill Riots
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cincybearcat said:She wasn’t in the Capitol?
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.
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OnWis97 said:
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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HughFreakingDillon said:so let's back this up: the guy got his facts wrong, he gets trashed for it. he then asks for facts, and now those facts are irrelevant? and how is asking for facts "minimizing" in your head?
I'd say the difference between 200 and 10,000 is quite a fucking bit. and relevant. no matter the number, yes, they were all traitorous pieces of trash. but I think factual questions should be THE MINIMUM expectation around here.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I’ll tell you how many broke into the capitol building 1 too many!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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tbergs said:That's all fine and dandy, but I'm a bit skeptical of anyone at this point who openly wonders about how that many people got in the capitol or what happened. It's almost been a month. All the shit is out there. If you're wondering, do a bit of research. There's tons of video of the whole crazy mess from multiple angles and entries. Sorry, I get annoyed when it seems that ignorance is being employed to downplay what happened.
Also, I think I was mostly snapping at the dumb sarcasm from another poster calling it mostly peaceful after this was brought up. The whole thing was a cult rally based on conspiracy theories and lies and thousands took it to the next level with hundreds more turning it violent. People just stood around and videoed officers being beaten and attacked and then followed the most violent once barriers (human and physical) were out of the way. I'll estimate that half of these crazies would be just fine pulling the trigger on anyone walking on their property and be ready to stand their ground. Fuck all of these people.Halifax2TheMax said:A month after the “fact,” he got his facts wrong. WTF? Pay the fuck attention to the biggest fucking political conspiracy and malfeasance in several generations, maybe since 1860. Pay the fuck attention to “simple” fucking facts that were broadcast live, streamed live and reported on and rebroadcast for a month. The “facts” weren’t hidden, they weren’t made the fuck up and they weren’t fake fucking news. If you want to know the facts, Jack. By the way, I heard it was 201. Again, what the fuck difference does it make if it were 1, 100, 200, 201, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000, particularly if the result, and attempted result, were the same? Tool Tirading on behalf of facts and against minimizing.
I do not live and breathe the news so I asked a fucking question.
I also asked 3 separate parts to it that certain people have particular issues with they were:
1 How many people were at the rally?
Which I found to be around 50,000
2 How many people rushed the Capitol?
Which I found to be around 10,000
3 How many actually made it inside?
I had heard 200, don't recall where but couldn't find a number in any google search.
Why did I ask? Because people here are generally informed and I wanted to know. Not minimizing. Didn't want to go through a bunch of articles.
Also mentioned that AOC was in Rep Porters office after doing some research and that was dismissed as bullshit.
Asked this question a month after the fact because more information comes out and a better idea of what happened can summed up.
I am truly sorry for asking a question. Apparently they have ulterior motives...
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OnWis97 said:
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.
The buildings are all connected in a larger complex; it was the complex that was stormed, not just the Capitol building itself.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
tempo_n_groove said:Did not know the facts because I wasn't watching news all day and was curious so I asked. I ask a question and get ZERO answers, I decide to do the research then i get lambasted for repeating what I read and everyone has a problem with it.
I do not live and breathe the news so I asked a fucking question.
I also asked 3 separate parts to it that certain people have particular issues with they were:
1 How many people were at the rally?
Which I found to be around 50,000
2 How many people rushed the Capitol?
Which I found to be around 10,000
3 How many actually made it inside?
I had heard 200, don't recall where but couldn't find a number in any google search.
Why did I ask? Because people here are generally informed and I wanted to know. Not minimizing. Didn't want to go through a bunch of articles.
Also mentioned that AOC was in Rep Porters office after doing some research and that was dismissed as bullshit.
Asked this question a month after the fact because more information comes out and a better idea of what happened can summed up.
I am truly sorry for asking a question. Apparently they have ulterior motives...
I don’t think you are wrong for asking for details...they matter.0 -
josevolution said:I’ll tell you how many broke into the capitol building 1 too many!
I'm not sure you stated what you think you did.hippiemom = goodness0 -
oftenreading said:You’re falling for the latest right wing media minimization technique, led by Tucker Carlson, who also said that this wasn’t a riot at all, but merely the GOP’s internal power struggle and that no one inside the Capitol was actually in danger.
The buildings are all connected in a larger complex; it was the complex that was stormed, not just the Capitol building itself.hippiemom = goodness0 -
OnWis97 said:
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Halifax2TheMax said:A month after the “fact,” he got his facts wrong. WTF? Pay the fuck attention to the biggest fucking political conspiracy and malfeasance in several generations, maybe since 1860. Pay the fuck attention to “simple” fucking facts that were broadcast live, streamed live and reported on and rebroadcast for a month. The “facts” weren’t hidden, they weren’t made the fuck up and they weren’t fake fucking news. If you want to know the facts, Jack. By the way, I heard it was 201. Again, what the fuck difference does it make if it were 1, 100, 200, 201, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000, particularly if the result, and attempted result, were the same? Tool Tirading on behalf of facts and against minimizing.
I know you have trouble with people discussing things and not being at the same exact level of outrage as you all the time. But some of us like to calmly discuss facts. you blathered on and on and on about facts the last 4 fucking years. i'd think you of all people would appreciate someone wanting to clarify them.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Gern Blansten said:Just because she wasn't in the fucking rotunda doesn't mean she wasn't in the mix of what was going on. Nothing she said was untrue. Don't believe the right wing bullshit.hippiemom = goodness0
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oftenreading said:You’re falling for the latest right wing media minimization technique, led by Tucker Carlson, who also said that this wasn’t a riot at all, but merely the GOP’s internal power struggle and that no one inside the Capitol was actually in danger.
The buildings are all connected in a larger complex; it was the complex that was stormed, not just the Capitol building itself.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
cincybearcat said:It may or may not matter. But people should be really clear and honest, that's all. And she may have been...but from what I was reading or saw I never knew she wasn't closer to the actual chambers0
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It appears that the building is pretty dang close. I've been on the tour, even got to ride the "subway" from my senators building to the main capitol building. You can certainly get anywhere once inside but for this proximity does matter.
I'm no expert but it would seem that her office building was certainly close enough to the rotunda to be a risk pretty quickly after people entered. Not to mention, reports of pipe bombs in the area.
If it were me I would certainly be concerned. I wonder why their protocols for this weren't better?hippiemom = goodness0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:i watched his show one time last week for a lark. I honestly don't know how anyone can sit there and listen to that weasel and not get a shiver down their spine in a mix of both rage and repulsiveness. I got through about 15 minutes before I had to shut it off and pour myself a drink.I SAW PEARL JAM0
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Merkin Baller said:
So there was a threat when Mace wanted to tweet about it, but not when AOC wanted to tweet about it, is that the situation?
It's my understanding that AOC never claimed that "insurrectionists stormed our hallway".my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
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