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cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.
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They’re all connected by tunnels. Not secret tunnels, mind you, but tunnels made for the specific purpose of getting from your assigned office, location determined by party in power and seniority, to the house or senate floor for votes. Most senior members of respective parties have an office just off the floor of each chamber. They’re called hideaways and it’s where the real work takes place. The other offices are for staff and constituent services. Also, to avoid having to navigate outdoors, in heat and rain and where The chances of running into an armed nut job are infinitely higher. The tunnels are public and not secret.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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A month after the “fact,” he got his facts wrong. WTF? Pay the fuck attention to the biggest fucking political conspiracy and malfeasance in several generations, maybe since 1860. Pay the fuck attention to “simple” fucking facts that were broadcast live, streamed live and reported on and rebroadcast for a month. The “facts” weren’t hidden, they weren’t made the fuck up and they weren’t fake fucking news. If you want to know the facts, Jack. By the way, I heard it was 201. Again, what the fuck difference does it make if it were 1, 100, 200, 201, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000, particularly if the result, and attempted result, were the same? Tool Tirading on behalf of facts and against minimizing.HughFreakingDillon said:
so let's back this up: the guy got his facts wrong, he gets trashed for it. he then asks for facts, and now those facts are irrelevant? and how is asking for facts "minimizing" in your head?Halifax2TheMax said:
Tirade? Because I think you made a lame attempt at minimizing something by asking "how many?" What if it were one person and the result was the same? Say, one person with an assault rifle and a few hundred rounds of armor piercing ammo? Almost a month later and we're debating "how many got inside." Like it makes a fucking difference. Tirade. Tool. You seem stuck on Ts today, Tempo. Tirade. Tool. Tirading Tool. Tooling Tirader. Tirading Tool Tooling Tiraded. FFS. I'll respectfully ask, do you watch the news? Did you not see the countless hours of footage from inside the capitol? Seems to me to be more than 200. But again, what fucking difference does it make?tempo_n_groove said:
So did you you or didn't you direct your tirade at me?Halifax2TheMax said:
Grasping.tempo_n_groove said:
I quoted you because of the after comment. If you didn't direct that first part at me then I'll move on.Halifax2TheMax said:Funny how some get so offended when not even quoted, eh? OMG, an opinion I don't agree with! The horror!
I'm not offended at all, you're still a tool.
I'd say the difference between 200 and 10,000 is quite a fucking bit. and relevant. no matter the number, yes, they were all traitorous pieces of trash. but I think factual questions should be THE MINIMUM expectation around here.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I’ll tell you how many broke into the capitol building 1 too many!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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tbergs said:
That's all fine and dandy, but I'm a bit skeptical of anyone at this point who openly wonders about how that many people got in the capitol or what happened. It's almost been a month. All the shit is out there. If you're wondering, do a bit of research. There's tons of video of the whole crazy mess from multiple angles and entries. Sorry, I get annoyed when it seems that ignorance is being employed to downplay what happened.HughFreakingDillon said:
tempo never said the picture above was 200. he actually said something in the thousands were outside the capitol, but was asking about how many were INSIDE. does everyone understand the word INSIDE?? and asking how many were inside is not "minimizing".tbergs said:
Around 200 or so. That's Trump math there. "A lot of people are saying...", "Everyone knows...", "The biggest..." Until large numbers equal bad, then it's just a few out of the masses. Everyone past the barricades "stormed" the capitol. Not all made it in, but the whole thing was treasonous.The Juggler said:Seems like a lot of radicalized people to me
some people just like facts.
kinda hard having a factual discussion without,...you know.....FACTS.
Also, I think I was mostly snapping at the dumb sarcasm from another poster calling it mostly peaceful after this was brought up. The whole thing was a cult rally based on conspiracy theories and lies and thousands took it to the next level with hundreds more turning it violent. People just stood around and videoed officers being beaten and attacked and then followed the most violent once barriers (human and physical) were out of the way. I'll estimate that half of these crazies would be just fine pulling the trigger on anyone walking on their property and be ready to stand their ground. Fuck all of these people.
Did not know the facts because I wasn't watching news all day and was curious so I asked. I ask a question and get ZERO answers, I decide to do the research then i get lambasted for repeating what I read and everyone has a problem with it.Halifax2TheMax said:
A month after the “fact,” he got his facts wrong. WTF? Pay the fuck attention to the biggest fucking political conspiracy and malfeasance in several generations, maybe since 1860. Pay the fuck attention to “simple” fucking facts that were broadcast live, streamed live and reported on and rebroadcast for a month. The “facts” weren’t hidden, they weren’t made the fuck up and they weren’t fake fucking news. If you want to know the facts, Jack. By the way, I heard it was 201. Again, what the fuck difference does it make if it were 1, 100, 200, 201, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000, particularly if the result, and attempted result, were the same? Tool Tirading on behalf of facts and against minimizing.HughFreakingDillon said:
so let's back this up: the guy got his facts wrong, he gets trashed for it. he then asks for facts, and now those facts are irrelevant? and how is asking for facts "minimizing" in your head?Halifax2TheMax said:
Tirade? Because I think you made a lame attempt at minimizing something by asking "how many?" What if it were one person and the result was the same? Say, one person with an assault rifle and a few hundred rounds of armor piercing ammo? Almost a month later and we're debating "how many got inside." Like it makes a fucking difference. Tirade. Tool. You seem stuck on Ts today, Tempo. Tirade. Tool. Tirading Tool. Tooling Tirader. Tirading Tool Tooling Tiraded. FFS. I'll respectfully ask, do you watch the news? Did you not see the countless hours of footage from inside the capitol? Seems to me to be more than 200. But again, what fucking difference does it make?tempo_n_groove said:
So did you you or didn't you direct your tirade at me?Halifax2TheMax said:
Grasping.tempo_n_groove said:
I quoted you because of the after comment. If you didn't direct that first part at me then I'll move on.Halifax2TheMax said:Funny how some get so offended when not even quoted, eh? OMG, an opinion I don't agree with! The horror!
I'm not offended at all, you're still a tool.
I'd say the difference between 200 and 10,000 is quite a fucking bit. and relevant. no matter the number, yes, they were all traitorous pieces of trash. but I think factual questions should be THE MINIMUM expectation around here.
I do not live and breathe the news so I asked a fucking question.
I also asked 3 separate parts to it that certain people have particular issues with they were:
1 How many people were at the rally?
Which I found to be around 50,000
2 How many people rushed the Capitol?
Which I found to be around 10,000
3 How many actually made it inside?
I had heard 200, don't recall where but couldn't find a number in any google search.
Why did I ask? Because people here are generally informed and I wanted to know. Not minimizing. Didn't want to go through a bunch of articles.
Also mentioned that AOC was in Rep Porters office after doing some research and that was dismissed as bullshit.
Asked this question a month after the fact because more information comes out and a better idea of what happened can summed up.
I am truly sorry for asking a question. Apparently they have ulterior motives...
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You’re falling for the latest right wing media minimization technique, led by Tucker Carlson, who also said that this wasn’t a riot at all, but merely the GOP’s internal power struggle and that no one inside the Capitol was actually in danger.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.
The buildings are all connected in a larger complex; it was the complex that was stormed, not just the Capitol building itself.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
On the bright side, this discussion has been “mostly peaceful”tempo_n_groove said:tbergs said:
That's all fine and dandy, but I'm a bit skeptical of anyone at this point who openly wonders about how that many people got in the capitol or what happened. It's almost been a month. All the shit is out there. If you're wondering, do a bit of research. There's tons of video of the whole crazy mess from multiple angles and entries. Sorry, I get annoyed when it seems that ignorance is being employed to downplay what happened.HughFreakingDillon said:
tempo never said the picture above was 200. he actually said something in the thousands were outside the capitol, but was asking about how many were INSIDE. does everyone understand the word INSIDE?? and asking how many were inside is not "minimizing".tbergs said:
Around 200 or so. That's Trump math there. "A lot of people are saying...", "Everyone knows...", "The biggest..." Until large numbers equal bad, then it's just a few out of the masses. Everyone past the barricades "stormed" the capitol. Not all made it in, but the whole thing was treasonous.The Juggler said:Seems like a lot of radicalized people to me
some people just like facts.
kinda hard having a factual discussion without,...you know.....FACTS.
Also, I think I was mostly snapping at the dumb sarcasm from another poster calling it mostly peaceful after this was brought up. The whole thing was a cult rally based on conspiracy theories and lies and thousands took it to the next level with hundreds more turning it violent. People just stood around and videoed officers being beaten and attacked and then followed the most violent once barriers (human and physical) were out of the way. I'll estimate that half of these crazies would be just fine pulling the trigger on anyone walking on their property and be ready to stand their ground. Fuck all of these people.
Did not know the facts because I wasn't watching news all day and was curious so I asked. I ask a question and get ZERO answers, I decide to do the research then i get lambasted for repeating what I read and everyone has a problem with it.Halifax2TheMax said:
A month after the “fact,” he got his facts wrong. WTF? Pay the fuck attention to the biggest fucking political conspiracy and malfeasance in several generations, maybe since 1860. Pay the fuck attention to “simple” fucking facts that were broadcast live, streamed live and reported on and rebroadcast for a month. The “facts” weren’t hidden, they weren’t made the fuck up and they weren’t fake fucking news. If you want to know the facts, Jack. By the way, I heard it was 201. Again, what the fuck difference does it make if it were 1, 100, 200, 201, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000, particularly if the result, and attempted result, were the same? Tool Tirading on behalf of facts and against minimizing.HughFreakingDillon said:
so let's back this up: the guy got his facts wrong, he gets trashed for it. he then asks for facts, and now those facts are irrelevant? and how is asking for facts "minimizing" in your head?Halifax2TheMax said:
Tirade? Because I think you made a lame attempt at minimizing something by asking "how many?" What if it were one person and the result was the same? Say, one person with an assault rifle and a few hundred rounds of armor piercing ammo? Almost a month later and we're debating "how many got inside." Like it makes a fucking difference. Tirade. Tool. You seem stuck on Ts today, Tempo. Tirade. Tool. Tirading Tool. Tooling Tirader. Tirading Tool Tooling Tiraded. FFS. I'll respectfully ask, do you watch the news? Did you not see the countless hours of footage from inside the capitol? Seems to me to be more than 200. But again, what fucking difference does it make?tempo_n_groove said:
So did you you or didn't you direct your tirade at me?Halifax2TheMax said:
Grasping.tempo_n_groove said:
I quoted you because of the after comment. If you didn't direct that first part at me then I'll move on.Halifax2TheMax said:Funny how some get so offended when not even quoted, eh? OMG, an opinion I don't agree with! The horror!
I'm not offended at all, you're still a tool.
I'd say the difference between 200 and 10,000 is quite a fucking bit. and relevant. no matter the number, yes, they were all traitorous pieces of trash. but I think factual questions should be THE MINIMUM expectation around here.
I do not live and breathe the news so I asked a fucking question.
I also asked 3 separate parts to it that certain people have particular issues with they were:
1 How many people were at the rally?
Which I found to be around 50,000
2 How many people rushed the Capitol?
Which I found to be around 10,000
3 How many actually made it inside?
I had heard 200, don't recall where but couldn't find a number in any google search.
Why did I ask? Because people here are generally informed and I wanted to know. Not minimizing. Didn't want to go through a bunch of articles.
Also mentioned that AOC was in Rep Porters office after doing some research and that was dismissed as bullshit.
Asked this question a month after the fact because more information comes out and a better idea of what happened can summed up.
I am truly sorry for asking a question. Apparently they have ulterior motives...
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So if just 1 person that made it in didn't, it would have all been ok?josevolution said:I’ll tell you how many broke into the capitol building 1 too many!
I'm not sure you stated what you think you did.hippiemom = goodness0 -
I would never call for people to storm a building, but some people can't get it unless it happens to them. I wonder what Carlson would think if hundreds of people stormed the Fox studio while he was on air?oftenreading said:
You’re falling for the latest right wing media minimization technique, led by Tucker Carlson, who also said that this wasn’t a riot at all, but merely the GOP’s internal power struggle and that no one inside the Capitol was actually in danger.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.
The buildings are all connected in a larger complex; it was the complex that was stormed, not just the Capitol building itself.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Just because she wasn't in the fucking rotunda doesn't mean she wasn't in the mix of what was going on. Nothing she said was untrue. Don't believe the right wing bullshit.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
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we're on a rock band's message board. a guy asked a question. and your reaction is how many pages of this^^^^?Halifax2TheMax said:
A month after the “fact,” he got his facts wrong. WTF? Pay the fuck attention to the biggest fucking political conspiracy and malfeasance in several generations, maybe since 1860. Pay the fuck attention to “simple” fucking facts that were broadcast live, streamed live and reported on and rebroadcast for a month. The “facts” weren’t hidden, they weren’t made the fuck up and they weren’t fake fucking news. If you want to know the facts, Jack. By the way, I heard it was 201. Again, what the fuck difference does it make if it were 1, 100, 200, 201, 1,000, 10,000, 100,000, particularly if the result, and attempted result, were the same? Tool Tirading on behalf of facts and against minimizing.HughFreakingDillon said:
so let's back this up: the guy got his facts wrong, he gets trashed for it. he then asks for facts, and now those facts are irrelevant? and how is asking for facts "minimizing" in your head?Halifax2TheMax said:
Tirade? Because I think you made a lame attempt at minimizing something by asking "how many?" What if it were one person and the result was the same? Say, one person with an assault rifle and a few hundred rounds of armor piercing ammo? Almost a month later and we're debating "how many got inside." Like it makes a fucking difference. Tirade. Tool. You seem stuck on Ts today, Tempo. Tirade. Tool. Tirading Tool. Tooling Tirader. Tirading Tool Tooling Tiraded. FFS. I'll respectfully ask, do you watch the news? Did you not see the countless hours of footage from inside the capitol? Seems to me to be more than 200. But again, what fucking difference does it make?tempo_n_groove said:
So did you you or didn't you direct your tirade at me?Halifax2TheMax said:
Grasping.tempo_n_groove said:
I quoted you because of the after comment. If you didn't direct that first part at me then I'll move on.Halifax2TheMax said:Funny how some get so offended when not even quoted, eh? OMG, an opinion I don't agree with! The horror!
I'm not offended at all, you're still a tool.
I'd say the difference between 200 and 10,000 is quite a fucking bit. and relevant. no matter the number, yes, they were all traitorous pieces of trash. but I think factual questions should be THE MINIMUM expectation around here.
I know you have trouble with people discussing things and not being at the same exact level of outrage as you all the time. But some of us like to calmly discuss facts. you blathered on and on and on about facts the last 4 fucking years. i'd think you of all people would appreciate someone wanting to clarify them.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
It may or may not matter. But people should be really clear and honest, that's all. And she may have been...but from what I was reading or saw I never knew she wasn't closer to the actual chambersGern Blansten said:
Just because she wasn't in the fucking rotunda doesn't mean she wasn't in the mix of what was going on. Nothing she said was untrue. Don't believe the right wing bullshit.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.hippiemom = goodness0 -
i watched his show one time last week for a lark. I honestly don't know how anyone can sit there and listen to that weasel and not get a shiver down their spine in a mix of both rage and repulsiveness. I got through about 15 minutes before I had to shut it off and pour myself a drink.oftenreading said:
You’re falling for the latest right wing media minimization technique, led by Tucker Carlson, who also said that this wasn’t a riot at all, but merely the GOP’s internal power struggle and that no one inside the Capitol was actually in danger.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.
The buildings are all connected in a larger complex; it was the complex that was stormed, not just the Capitol building itself.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Maybe AOC exaggerates. Maybe she is dramatic. Maybe she was never truly in danger, but maybe she felt she was. Maybe she just likes face time. None of that matters. How someone felt in that situation is irrelevant to the fact that what happened was an abomination. And no one will convince me (nor probably 75% of Americans) that had the rioters actually found her, she would have been in grave danger.cincybearcat said:
It may or may not matter. But people should be really clear and honest, that's all. And she may have been...but from what I was reading or saw I never knew she wasn't closer to the actual chambersGern Blansten said:
Just because she wasn't in the fucking rotunda doesn't mean she wasn't in the mix of what was going on. Nothing she said was untrue. Don't believe the right wing bullshit.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.0 -
It appears that the building is pretty dang close. I've been on the tour, even got to ride the "subway" from my senators building to the main capitol building. You can certainly get anywhere once inside but for this proximity does matter.
I'm no expert but it would seem that her office building was certainly close enough to the rotunda to be a risk pretty quickly after people entered. Not to mention, reports of pipe bombs in the area.
If it were me I would certainly be concerned. I wonder why their protocols for this weren't better?hippiemom = goodness0 -
Easy. His viewers are fueled by rage and repulsion.HughFreakingDillon said:
i watched his show one time last week for a lark. I honestly don't know how anyone can sit there and listen to that weasel and not get a shiver down their spine in a mix of both rage and repulsiveness. I got through about 15 minutes before I had to shut it off and pour myself a drink.oftenreading said:
You’re falling for the latest right wing media minimization technique, led by Tucker Carlson, who also said that this wasn’t a riot at all, but merely the GOP’s internal power struggle and that no one inside the Capitol was actually in danger.OnWis97 said:cincybearcat said:
She wasn’t in the Capitol?OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
what?OnWis97 said:OnWis97 said:AOC says she was hiding in her bathroom while people were trying to get into her office.I don't think we truly appreciate how close we came to seeing a big name killed.* It's not hyperbolic to say that her life was in jeopardy nor that someone like Pelosi or Pence could have been killed if seconds/minutes had been lost. But hey, let's move on!*And of course there's a lot of ignoring of those that did die, including the cop beaten to death on the scene. But realistically if a lawmaker had been killed the GOP would not be able to do this "time to move on" shtick.
So it turns out the whole thing was a lie. LOL. She wasn't even in the building. #AlexandriaOcasioSmollett
There are mixed feelings on what it means. She was in Katie Porter's office in another building. The "banging" on the door was a cop trying to move them to a secure location. I guess you could argue that it's easy for us from the cheap seats to suggest she shouldn't have been freightened, but I'm starting to wonder whether she did go for the opportunist angle here.
No. A nearby office building. That said, I don't have any idea how close/accessible the buildings are to each other.
The buildings are all connected in a larger complex; it was the complex that was stormed, not just the Capitol building itself.I SAW PEARL JAM0 -
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Merkin Baller said:
So there was a threat when Mace wanted to tweet about it, but not when AOC wanted to tweet about it, is that the situation?
It's my understanding that AOC never claimed that "insurrectionists stormed our hallway".my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Dumbest argument ever.0
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