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  • bbiggs
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bbiggs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Congrats on being one of the first to get the vaccine AOC. 
    31 year old, non-healthcare workers must be high risk.

    They don’t die from covid? Funny, jealousy kills. But you know, jealousy. 

    Speaking of Illinois, hows the facts, surges, thanksgiving, spikes and deaths and all? You know, government numbers? Going to visit, maskless? Fuck those people, right? Culling, it’s a hard thing. Sometimes.


    31 year olds die a lot less than the 65+ group, no?

    Not sure what the rest of that rant means. It’s hard to follow. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    bbiggs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bbiggs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Congrats on being one of the first to get the vaccine AOC. 
    31 year old, non-healthcare workers must be high risk.

    They don’t die from covid? Funny, jealousy kills. But you know, jealousy. 

    Speaking of Illinois, hows the facts, surges, thanksgiving, spikes and deaths and all? You know, government numbers? Going to visit, maskless? Fuck those people, right? Culling, it’s a hard thing. Sometimes.


    31 year olds die a lot less than the 65+ group, no?

    Not sure what the rest of that rant means. It’s hard to follow. 
    True.

    Not surprised.
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  • nicknyr15
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bbiggs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Congrats on being one of the first to get the vaccine AOC. 
    31 year old, non-healthcare workers must be high risk.

    They don’t die from covid? Funny, jealousy kills. But you know, jealousy. 

    Speaking of Illinois, hows the facts, surges, thanksgiving, spikes and deaths and all? You know, government numbers? Going to visit, maskless? Fuck those people, right? Culling, it’s a hard thing. Sometimes.


    Lol. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,458
    so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?
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  • mrussel1
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?
    That's the question.  Now there is a "continuity of gov't" strategy out there that allows for this type of thing.  But the question is should young reps take it?  I don't think so.  Should Nancy, Chuck, Mitch?  Yes.  They are all high risk and in positions that require them to be public.  
  • JeBurkhardt
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?
    Because no matter how much people (very often politicians) give lip service to community and the greater good, in the end they will usually do what benefits themselves the most. 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited December 2020
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?
    I think it’s bullshit.  Fuck praising AOC for getting the vaccination early...I wonder who’s grandmother will die because she got to jump the line.  As far as I know, she is not in an “at risk” group...Elitism at its finest.
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  • mrussel1
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    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    so do people think that political leaders should be first in line, or even close to first? I get the prez and prez-elect getting it. But a congressperson? why? I don't believe canadian senators and provincial premiers are getting them. My premier has already stated he's anxious to get it, being 65+ with asthma, but he will wait his turn like everyone else. Why the hell is AOC getting it first?
    I think it’s bullshit.  Fuck praising AOC for getting the vaccination early...I wonder who’s grandmother will die because she got to jump the line.  As far as I know, she is not in an “at risk” group...Elitism...
    Omar criticized her publicly.  I was surprised.  But she lost a parent to COVID so I know she is really focused on the vaccine getting to seniors. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.

    I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.

    I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,458
    oftenreading said:
    I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.

    I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance. 
    yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.

    I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance. 
    yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would. 

    She's going to be panned no matter what she does - do you really think otherwise? 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,458
    oftenreading said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    I'm of two minds about this. I get that a lot of people may need to see that people in authority seem to trust the vaccine, and this normalizes the idea of getting vaccinated. If none of those in government got vaccinated conspiracy theories would flourish even more than they already do. However, I don't think that outweighs the fact that all of these early doses should be going to the highest risk people.

    I think the continuity of government argument is bullshit in this instance. 
    yeah, we had this conversation about "trust in the vaccine" with public figures getting it, but I don't think they should be jumping the queue. Especially not someone who is going to be almost universally panned like AOC should have known she would. 

    She's going to be panned no matter what she does - do you really think otherwise? 
    by the center and the right, yes, but the left? depends on the situation. she is under pretty intense scrutiny, no doubt. But this: I can't see how anyone, no matter how far left, can support it. the fact that someone mentioned Omar criticized her for it is pretty telling. 
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  • bbiggs
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    Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person.  Absolutely zero reason. 
  • mrussel1
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    bbiggs said:
    Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person.  Absolutely zero reason. 
    Agreed.  It's that simple. 
  • PJPOWER
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    mrussel1 said:
    bbiggs said:
    Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person.  Absolutely zero reason. 
    Agreed.  It's that simple. 
    Exactly
  • static111
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    bbiggs said:
    Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person.  Absolutely zero reason. 
    What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person.   There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills.  Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a  Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?
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  • bbiggs
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    static111 said:
    bbiggs said:
    Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person.  Absolutely zero reason. 
    What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person.   There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills.  Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a  Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?
    Doesn't matter.  Lines need to be drawn somewhere.  Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what.  The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups.  Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it.  AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look. 

    And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.

  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,070
    bbiggs said:
    static111 said:
    bbiggs said:
    Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person.  Absolutely zero reason. 
    What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person.   There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills.  Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a  Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?
    Doesn't matter.  Lines need to be drawn somewhere.  Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what.  The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups.  Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it.  AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look. 

    And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.

    Well you said zero reason so I was just looking for a non zero reason
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    static111 said:
    bbiggs said:
    static111 said:
    bbiggs said:
    Unless you're a healthcare professional, long-term care provider, front line worker or someone with a known underlying disease that puts you at greater risk, there is no reason someone in his or her 30's should get this vaccine before an elderly person.  Absolutely zero reason. 
    What if due to your work you have to be out and about more than a homebound elderly person.   There are many people that have to go out in close contact with others everyday so they can pay their bills.  Should a person in their 30’s trying to make ends meet not get the vaccine before a  Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates, or the filthy rich person with the gate at the end of the road that can afford to stay home on their palatial estates while getting groceries delivered?
    Doesn't matter.  Lines need to be drawn somewhere.  Elderly and high risk individuals due to underlying disease go first no matter what.  The healthy 30-something that has to be out and about should go after those groups.  Not that you're asking, but I'm 39, need to be out and about on some level (masked up, distanced, etc.), need to make ends meet and I would forego the vaccine if offered to me until those groups received it.  AOC being 31, presumably in good health, and jumping the line is a bad look. 

    And the Rush Limbaugh, Bill Gates crowd living in palatial estates are certainly the minority when looking at how this needs to get distributed and prioritized.

    Well you said zero reason so I was just looking for a non zero reason
    I did.  And I stand by it.  Zero reason.

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