Proud Boys use Toys For Tots drive to promote their hate group in our town.

brianlux
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The white supremacist group, "Proud Boys" recently used a Toys for Tots charity drive to promote their hate group here in Placerville recently.  I'm proud of our mayor for telling them they are not welcome here.




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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,026
    The fuck is wrong with people. Extremists trying to influence kids. Should be illegal


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    lastexitlondon said:
    The fuck is wrong with people. Extremists trying to influence kids. Should be illegal

    the kids who get the toys their donation provides for wont know it came through them. this  was a stunt to get the name in the news. charity is best when its anonymous....
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,026
    mickeyrat said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    The fuck is wrong with people. Extremists trying to influence kids. Should be illegal

    the kids who get the toys their donation provides for wont know it came through them. this  was a stunt to get the name in the news. charity is best when its anonymous....
    But throwing  up racist signs in a kids photo and that getting  published is abhorrent behaviour. 
    The charity will probably  have  to lose out well the  poor kids ,like who wants to be seen to sympathise with these half whits.
    A poor act of abusing  a good cause


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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Proud Boys are pedos luring children in with toys!
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Smellyman said:
    Proud Boys are pedos luring children in with toys!
    Interesting hot take.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    Anyone notice the black guy with them flashing the sign too?
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,218
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.

    and a reporter could reword things.
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.

    and a reporter could reword things.
    As an editor, I would never let that that fly.

    If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.

    A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.

    You know, because people want to lynch journalists now.  And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.

    So true!  Really an amazing organization. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.

    and a reporter could reword things.
    As an editor, I would never let that that fly.

    If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.

    A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.

    You know, because people want to lynch journalists now.  And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
    There are also people out there that claim to be reporters that just google shit all day and use that as reporting.  It's pretty much what Twitter is today.

    That being said it doesn't discredit what was said about the proud boys.  Through my research I get the same 2 underlying ideology from them like I mentioned before.

    It really is an all over the place group.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.

    and a reporter could reword things.
    As an editor, I would never let that that fly.

    If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.

    A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.

    You know, because people want to lynch journalists now.  And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
    There are also people out there that claim to be reporters that just google shit all day and use that as reporting.  It's pretty much what Twitter is today.

    That being said it doesn't discredit what was said about the proud boys.  Through my research I get the same 2 underlying ideology from them like I mentioned before.

    It really is an all over the place group.

    These characteristics are consistent within this group:
    Spreading hate
    White Nationalist
    Misogynist
    Anti-Muslim
    Bigoted
    Extremist


    You almost sound taken by this group.  That so, or my misunderstanding?




    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,864
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.

    and a reporter could reword things.
    As an editor, I would never let that that fly.

    If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.

    A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.

    You know, because people want to lynch journalists now.  And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
    There are also people out there that claim to be reporters that just google shit all day and use that as reporting.  It's pretty much what Twitter is today.

    That being said it doesn't discredit what was said about the proud boys.  Through my research I get the same 2 underlying ideology from them like I mentioned before.

    It really is an all over the place group.

    These characteristics are consistent within this group:
    Spreading hate
    White Nationalist
    Misogynist
    Anti-Muslim
    Bigoted
    Extremist


    You almost sound taken by this group.  That so, or my misunderstanding?




    The things you just listed proves my point that it is an "all over the place group".  Again as I stated that Misogyny and Nationalism often follow along w the others that you mentioned so I have no idea how i'm "taken" with this group.

  • gimmesometruth27
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    in related news, #civilwar is trending on twitter again.

    i am so sick of these babies. they need to do what dems did after 2016. work to win the house, work to win the white house, and now work to flip the senate.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.

    and a reporter could reword things.
    As an editor, I would never let that that fly.

    If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.

    A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.

    You know, because people want to lynch journalists now.  And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
    There are also people out there that claim to be reporters that just google shit all day and use that as reporting.  It's pretty much what Twitter is today.

    That being said it doesn't discredit what was said about the proud boys.  Through my research I get the same 2 underlying ideology from them like I mentioned before.

    It really is an all over the place group.

    These characteristics are consistent within this group:
    Spreading hate
    White Nationalist
    Misogynist
    Anti-Muslim
    Bigoted
    Extremist


    You almost sound taken by this group.  That so, or my misunderstanding?




    The things you just listed proves my point that it is an "all over the place group".  Again as I stated that Misogyny and Nationalism often follow along w the others that you mentioned so I have no idea how i'm "taken" with this group.


    Sorry, not meaning to make accusations.  "All over the place" to me sounded like cutting them some slack.  Sorry for misunderstanding.
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    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    dankind said:
    mickeyrat said:
    dankind said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
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    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anyone notice the black guy 7with them flashing the sign too?

    yep. channeling chappelle show?
    HA!  There were actually 2 guys of African American decent there.

    They definitely have a bunch of views that are Nationalist which became a taboo word now, but if you are 'merican and love the red white and blue then this is for you and no color or creed be of question.

    It's not a very progressive group and I see why it ticks the boxes for people.  It's like trying to bring back the misogynist actions that were tolerated in the 80's.  I just don't get that aspect...

    Southern Poverty Law Center is the best place I know of to get information on hate groups and what they are really about.  Here is what they say about Proud Boys:

    Their disavowals of bigotry are belied by their actions: rank-and-file Proud Boys and leaders regularly spout white nationalist memes and maintain affiliations with known extremists. They are known for anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric. Proud Boys have appeared alongside other hate groups at extremist gatherings like the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville. Indeed, former Proud Boys member Jason Kessler helped to organize the event, which brought together Klansmen, antisemites, Southern racists, and militias. Kessler was only “expelled” from the group after the violence and near-universal condemnation of the Charlottesville rally-goers.

    More at link:


    You know what's interesting?  I read the same thing almost word for word on another site.  I guess reporters just copy and paste things now and don't use more than one source.

    I started the Proud Boys thread so I know about them.  I'll stick by my definition of them as Nationalist and non progressive.  That usually follows up w racist tendencies anyways.
    SPLC is pretty much the definitive source on classifying hate groups, so there's really no need for a reporter to find a backup source.

    and a reporter could reword things.
    As an editor, I would never let that that fly.

    If a news outlet is publishing that a certain organization is a hate group, that news outlet should put some distance between the folks on its masthead and the published statement.

    A reporter who puts such a statement in his or her own words runs the risks of not only ruining the reputation of the news outlet as an unbiased source but also, in this day and age, they risk physical harm to themselves and their coworkers.

    You know, because people want to lynch journalists now.  And those who don't still think they could do a better job with their GED, apparently.
    There are also people out there that claim to be reporters that just google shit all day and use that as reporting.  It's pretty much what Twitter is today.

    That being said it doesn't discredit what was said about the proud boys.  Through my research I get the same 2 underlying ideology from them like I mentioned before.

    It really is an all over the place group.

    These characteristics are consistent within this group:
    Spreading hate
    White Nationalist
    Misogynist
    Anti-Muslim
    Bigoted
    Extremist


    You almost sound taken by this group.  That so, or my misunderstanding?




    You forgot...supporters of the current president 

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