To what degree is everything in life political?

brianlux
brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
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A good question prompted by Statics statement in another thread.  Let's see what you all think.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"
-Roberto Benigni

To what degree is everything in life political? 8 votes

Everything in life is political to some degree
12%
static111 1 vote
Most things in life are political to some degree
25%
mace1229rgambs 2 votes
A moderate number of things in life are political to some degree
25%
gimmesometruth27lastexitlondon 2 votes
Many things in life are not political at all (please provide examples)
25%
FiveBelowbrianlux 2 votes
Nothing in life is political, it's all smoke and mirrors
0%
Other (there's always room for "other")
12%
HughFreakingDillon 1 vote
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    People make things political. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Many things in life are not political at all (please provide examples)
    hedonist said:
    People make things political. 

    And thankfully our pets don't join in that process.

    My take is based on my college poli sci instructor who said basically that politics is one group facing off with another group or groups to gain advantage for what they desire.  I would argue that many of the creative arts are non political because the products of creativity are either individual or cooperative efforts to create something unique or enjoyable that has nothing to do with besting another effort or trying to gain advantage over another effort.  Yes, there is political art, to be sure, but much of it is apolitical as well.

    I would also say that acts of kindness are apolitical, especially when done in secret.  Same for animal care- that is generally something that I see as not at all political.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,336
    Many things in life are not political at all (please provide examples)
    This poll made me think of The Trees by Rush for some reason. It is a good thing many aspects of life are not human.

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux said:
    hedonist said:
    People make things political. 

    And thankfully our pets don't join in that process.

    My take is based on my college poli sci instructor who said basically that politics is one group facing off with another group or groups to gain advantage for what they desire.  I would argue that many of the creative arts are non political because the products of creativity are either individual or cooperative efforts to create something unique or enjoyable that has nothing to do with besting another effort or trying to gain advantage over another effort.  Yes, there is political art, to be sure, but much of it is apolitical as well.

    I would also say that acts of kindness are apolitical, especially when done in secret.  Same for animal care- that is generally something that I see as not at all political.
    True. Just being kind for the sake of it - no attachments or statements or acknowledgments. Fuck hoopla. 

    But again, some love to turn anything political: eating meat, listening to certain musicians or comedians, what you purchase, how you purchase, how you raise your kid, even the most innocuous statements. 
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    JW269453 said:
    This poll made me think of The Trees by Rush for some reason. It is a good thing many aspects of life are not human.

    Awesome song and lyrics, by the way!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Other (there's always room for "other")
    it's as political as you make it. i know loads of people who aren't political whatsoever. 
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Many things in life are not political at all (please provide examples)
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's as political as you make it. i know loads of people who aren't political whatsoever. 

    Me too.  Especially... well, she seems to think she is people:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    98
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Many things in life are not political at all (please provide examples)
    We're looking for Static to click that top button. 
    [radio static]
    "Hello Static, come in Static."
    [continued radio static...]
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux said:
    We're looking for Static to click that top button. 
    [radio static]
    "Hello Static, come in Static."
    [continued radio static...]
    You could just pm or @ him.

    Unless he has ESP. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Many things in life are not political at all (please provide examples)
    hedonist said:
    brianlux said:
    We're looking for Static to click that top button. 
    [radio static]
    "Hello Static, come in Static."
    [continued radio static...]
    You could just pm or @ him.

    Unless he has ESP. 

    I do believe he has ESP but it is heavily interrupted by... you guesses it.
    ccczzzshshshschchchczzzchchchczzzzcccc......
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,229
    brianlux said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's as political as you make it. i know loads of people who aren't political whatsoever. 

    Me too.  Especially... well, she seems to think she is people:

    That, my friends, is the fucking life.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Many things in life are not political at all (please provide examples)
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    brianlux said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    it's as political as you make it. i know loads of people who aren't political whatsoever. 

    Me too.  Especially... well, she seems to think she is people:

    That, my friends, is the fucking life.

    It is, for sure!  What you see here is what we fondly call, "The spoiled rotten cat"!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    A moderate number of things in life are political to some degree
    Im not political at all. But i do now see some things are pure politics.  But im not learned enough 


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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,086
    Everything in life is political to some degree
    brianlux said:
    We're looking for Static to click that top button. 
    [radio static]
    "Hello Static, come in Static."
    [continued radio static...]
    Just clicked. Will join the convo later.  I tried to be a mixologist last night and made myself two very strong margaritas, that sent me too sleep.  Woke up feeling a bit under the weather.  Today will not be one of my most prolific posting days.   I love that you made a new topic with a poll though!
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Many things in life are not political at all (please provide examples)
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    We're looking for Static to click that top button. 
    [radio static]
    "Hello Static, come in Static."
    [continued radio static...]
    Just clicked. Will join the convo later.  I tried to be a mixologist last night and made myself two very strong margaritas, that sent me too sleep.  Woke up feeling a bit under the weather.  Today will not be one of my most prolific posting days.   I love that you made a new topic with a poll though!

    Oh the woes of a tequila hang over- I know that one!  Take care off yourself this morning and check in when you're feeling better.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    This seems like the best place to post this.  It rings so true to me (and goddamn, I wish I could hear Carlin's thoughts on the state of today).
    https://youtu.be/pLifGCKfLPQ
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    Made it about 30 seconds. Can't take much of the Tuckwad. Does the video get better?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Other (there's always room for "other")
    hedonist said:
    This seems like the best place to post this.  It rings so true to me (and goddamn, I wish I could hear Carlin's thoughts on the state of today).
    https://youtu.be/pLifGCKfLPQ
    that's one of my now-favourite quotes: 'just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right". I completely agree that it's gone too far. it started with good intentions, but people always have to take shit to extremes. and it's the vocal minority that the mob is fueled by, and if everyone would just take a step back and think about it, it's really not that big a deal. 

    I, for one, applauded Kevin Hart when he was shamed about his homophobic slur and didn't bow to the mob. he said (paraphrasing) "i already apologized, I don't need to keep doing it to appease the mob, so fuck you, I'm not hosting the oscars". that's how you do it. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    Most things in life are political to some degree
    I said most things to some degree. Your dishwasher is political as well as most appliances. You don't even consider it but those are regulated as to how efficient they can be and how much water they can use. Just about every appliance is controlled by politics. Cars too. 
    Pets were mentioned as not being political, but they are. The city and county determines which types of pets you can have and how many, which breeds of dogs you can have. I have to pay a fee to have a dog in my yard and the government tracks who has pets. I know this because I get an invoice every year with my pet's name on it from the city. What type of lawn I have and how often I water it. There are laws around pharmaceutical gifts and donations that influence which medicines you decide to take. 
    Government/politics has an influence on so many little things by either taxing certain products or materials or giving tax breaks on other items or even kids to your type of roof on your house.  And all those decisions stem from something political one way or another. 
    I'm not saying any of that is bad, most of it is good. But politics plays some role in most things we do.

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