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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,842
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    No alcohol to be sold in Sweden after 22.00 in the evenings. I think UK and France has similiar rules(?)
    Isn't the whole point of the 24-hour clock so you don't have to specify morning/evenings? 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    mace1229 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    No alcohol to be sold in Sweden after 22.00 in the evenings. I think UK and France has similiar rules(?)
    Isn't the whole point of the 24-hour clock so you don't have to specify morning/evenings? 
    I just wanted to be safe, for zie americans on the board.
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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,343
    Lerxst1992 said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rgambs said:
    Pfizer directly contradicted him with a statement immediately.
    yes they did, but it won't matter. millions will still believe that:

    a) this is trump's win
    b) pfizer delayed the announcement until after the election on purpose to let biden win

    in today's day, a response is nothing but pissing in the wind. once the first incendiary claim is out there, that monster is invincible.
    I would agree with you on A. But the timing is too good for there not to be some truth behind B. It’s not like these things happen over night, they could have made the announcement a week earlier.Maybe it was more to spite Trump than help Biden, or to keep him from taking credit.  But the timing is too perfect to not be suspect.


    Maybe the board at Pfizer took a look at 135,000 cases a day and said * *

    Maybe the board at Pfizer took a look at deaths climbing to 1400 a day and said * * 

    Maybe the board at Pfizer took a look at refrigerated trucks being rushed to places like El Paso and Utah to store all the dead bodies and said * *

    Maybe the board at Pfizer took a look at all the lies and blatant disregard for public health that an idiotic 47% in this country approved of and said * *


    * * = use imagination.
    22% if you are talking total population, 31% if you are talking electorate and this is assuming all of those who voted for him also approved his handling of the pandemic. This “half of the country“ nonsense needs to stop, constantly spewing this on every issue is not a good look for either side. Same with saying all democrats or all republicans are "xyz". It is lazy and sending a dangerous message to those who are not yet wise enough to realize everything they read on the internet is not true. People can create change much faster than any government and right now I just see two factions taking every shot they can at each other thinking that they speak for the rest of us while doing it.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,422
    Balasero says stop being a sissy, yo, we’re all going to die one day. 

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,575
    edited November 2020
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    rgambs said:
    Pfizer directly contradicted him with a statement immediately.
    yes they did, but it won't matter. millions will still believe that:

    a) this is trump's win
    b) pfizer delayed the announcement until after the election on purpose to let biden win

    in today's day, a response is nothing but pissing in the wind. once the first incendiary claim is out there, that monster is invincible.
    I would agree with you on A. But the timing is too good for there not to be some truth behind B. It’s not like these things happen over night, they could have made the announcement a week earlier.Maybe it was more to spite Trump than help Biden, or to keep him from taking credit.  But the timing is too perfect to not be suspect.
    the CEO of pfizer addressed this and said they couldn't announce anything until they hit a certain number of covid infections in the study, and then anazlyze it. they simply didn't hit that number until after the election. it's all in the data. 

    edit: just saw your later comments on the matter. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,575
    mfc2006 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Rounding the curve sideways, wondering when we hit the wall? Anyone seen or heard from the chairperson of the Covid Task Force? Is he in witness protection? How about the asleep HUD Secretary?




    We all need to prepare for a second trump term.
    LOL. Not going to happen.
    i can't see it either. once he gets back to his day to day bullshit of doing nothing but golfing and eating and living the high life, slowly the ego issue of losing will go away. i can't imagine why a guy like him would want to spend his possible remaining years in office. we know why biden did it. but trump doesn't have to. 

    but with trump, you simply never know. 

    it's just hard to know what the state of his popularity will be in 4 years. maybe his cultists will move on, maybe it will grow. who knows. i guess it depends if he gets banned from twitter, which i think is a high possibility.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,422
    240,500+ dead Americans on Remembrance Day.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    The fact that the Pfizer vaccine needs to be kept at -70oC throughout the distribution chain is concerning. This will definitely cause serious wrinkles in the supply, even for those of us who live in major population centres. It will be next to impossible to provide to remote communities, including First Nations communities, and in much of the less developed world. We have to hope that other efficacious vaccines that don't require such complex storage capacity come on line soon.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    We also of course don't have safety data, nor any real efficacy data on the pfizer vaccine. Time will tell. 
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  • mace1229
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    oftenreading said:
    The fact that the Pfizer vaccine needs to be kept at -70oC throughout the distribution chain is concerning. This will definitely cause serious wrinkles in the supply, even for those of us who live in major population centres. It will be next to impossible to provide to remote communities, including First Nations communities, and in much of the less developed world. We have to hope that other efficacious vaccines that don't require such complex storage capacity come on line soon.
    I read they plan to pack and store with dry ice, but even then only lasts like 48 hours or something. So it’s definitely going to make it difficult.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,229
    got word today that some hospitals in mid missouri are shutting down elective surgeries due to too many inpatients with covid. 

    well done, govnah.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,703
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    got word today that some hospitals in mid missouri are shutting down elective surgeries due to too many inpatients with covid. 

    well done, govnah.
    How about the hospitals that are keeping staff to work even though they’ve tested positive! Unreal every single state in this country had increases in cases today every single state 🤢 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,229
    josevolution said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    got word today that some hospitals in mid missouri are shutting down elective surgeries due to too many inpatients with covid. 

    well done, govnah.
    How about the hospitals that are keeping staff to work even though they’ve tested positive! Unreal every single state in this country had increases in cases today every single state 🤢 
    it is not that fucking hard!

    americans absolutely refuse to get a handle on this.

    the new spike is about 2 weeks post halloween, so i guarantee this is going to continue.
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  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,827
    I would love to see a survey regarding the political affiliation of those infected with Covid-19.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,229
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I would love to see a survey regarding the political affiliation of those infected with Covid-19.
    i would too. i have an idea how it would skew, but i know some pretty progressive people that had gotten it early on before fauci recommended masks.

    my teammate's dad and sister tested positive last week. fortunately i have not been around him for about 10 days and he has tested negative since his family tested positive.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    I think this winter is gonna be horrendous world over. 
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I think this winter is gonna be horrendous world over. 
    The Northern Hemisphere is certainly going to have horrific case numbers
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I would love to see a survey regarding the political affiliation of those infected with Covid-19.
    Fantasizing about a political dunk is an appalling way to approach a pandemic. When all is said and done, it will have torn through every type of community imaginable. No one has had an easy time - even sparsely populated areas are spiking right now. You want to find a common theme? Our most vulnerable populations - the elderly and indigent. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    You wanna know what privelege is? Seeing 1.3 million deaths to date and snarkily wondering aloud if more Trump voters caught it.
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    pjl44 said:
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I would love to see a survey regarding the political affiliation of those infected with Covid-19.
    Fantasizing about a political dunk is an appalling way to approach a pandemic. When all is said and done, it will have torn through every type of community imaginable. No one has had an easy time - even sparsely populated areas are spiking right now. You want to find a common theme? Our most vulnerable populations - the elderly and indigent. 
    I did read some statistical reporting on the correlation of covid numbers and states Trump won. It wasn't good. I just don’t remember the numbers or the source, but the info is out there 
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