Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez
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Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/
Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.Scio me nihil scire
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If the country isn't essentially down the middle, why is Biden president, after defeating handily his challengers in the party?Spiritual_Chaos said:Joe Scarborough Begs Democrats To Purge The Left
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I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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And why shouldn’t hateful racist trump supporters be blackballed?DarthMaeglin said:
I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.Scio me nihil scire
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Chuck Shumer is reportedly floating 50k of student loan forgiveness. That’s pretty progressive. I don’t buy the centrist argument. It’s more like half of t he country is full on ready for facist authoritarianism, and the other half got together to stop the threat. It looks like a lot of the people that were disengaged and disaffected left voters got together because this was a referendum on trump and against fascism. Uniting the Dem party doesn’t have to be about purging the left, because you lose those votes. It can be about compromising with the left , getting more progressive, helping to find better language to use when speaking of defunding the police etc. if uniting the democrat party means fall in line or purge the left I don’t see that as winning elections especially with a growing progressive movement within the party. I mean joe certainly has moved left over the course of this election and I’m very happy with that. The future of the democrat party is young and multicultural and progressive. We don’t want to go setting a generation up to be disaffected with politics because we are in such a hurry to heal the wounds and reach across the aisle to a party that enabled and profited from a dangerous racist ego maniac. That’s my take.mrussel1 said:
If the country isn't essentially down the middle, why is Biden president, after defeating handily his challengers in the party?Spiritual_Chaos said:Joe Scarborough Begs Democrats To Purge The Left
https://youtu.be/qncn07xwsXwPost edited by static111 onScio me nihil scire
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Right. Document their positions to hold them accountable when they do a 180. I have plenty of disagreement with AOC, but I understand her point here.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.0 -
I don’t know which side of my values this springs from, but making lists like this isn’t that many steps removed from setting up camps for the people on the list (in my opinion, obviously). And when the coin (inevitably) flips then the other side tends to take their turn at rounding people up.static111 said:
And why shouldn’t hateful racist trump supporters be blackballed?DarthMaeglin said:
I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.
That said, if actual crimes were committed, then it’s the place of the legal authorities to investigate and prosecute, which can blackball people from many jobs via a criminal record. As we all know, destruction of evidence is a crime, and nothing on the internet truly disappears.
As I said before this will only exacerbate the division, not unify, which Biden claims is his goal.
And just for full disclosure and clarity, I’m posting safely north of the U.S. border."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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Taking note of someone's public statements is many, many steps removed from setting up campsDarthMaeglin said:
I don’t know which side of my values this springs from, but making lists like this isn’t that many steps removed from setting up camps for the people on the list (in my opinion, obviously). And when the coin (inevitably) flips then the other side tends to take their turn at rounding people up.static111 said:
And why shouldn’t hateful racist trump supporters be blackballed?DarthMaeglin said:
I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.
That said, if actual crimes were committed, then it’s the place of the legal authorities to investigate and prosecute, which can blackball people from many jobs via a criminal record. As we all know, destruction of evidence is a crime, and nothing on the internet truly disappears.
As I said before this will only exacerbate the division, not unify, which Biden claims is his goal.
And just for full disclosure and clarity, I’m posting safely north of the U.S. border.0 -
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And clearly delusional from what I witnessed of him the other night. Good fucking gwad.static111 said:
He’s a republicanDarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Is FEMA back in business? Wal-Mart is standing by! They’re all connected underground! So too are Whole Foods.DarthMaeglin said:
I don’t know which side of my values this springs from, but making lists like this isn’t that many steps removed from setting up camps for the people on the list (in my opinion, obviously). And when the coin (inevitably) flips then the other side tends to take their turn at rounding people up.static111 said:
And why shouldn’t hateful racist trump supporters be blackballed?DarthMaeglin said:
I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.
That said, if actual crimes were committed, then it’s the place of the legal authorities to investigate and prosecute, which can blackball people from many jobs via a criminal record. As we all know, destruction of evidence is a crime, and nothing on the internet truly disappears.
As I said before this will only exacerbate the division, not unify, which Biden claims is his goal.
And just for full disclosure and clarity, I’m posting safely north of the U.S. border.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I agree, the list may be removed from the camps, but it’s one of the first steps in that direction historically. In a free and open democracy lists like this are downright offensive and will set a very, very bad precedent. This like some weird mix of Stalin meets McCarthy.pjl44 said:
Taking note of someone's public statements is many, many steps removed from setting up campsDarthMaeglin said:
I don’t know which side of my values this springs from, but making lists like this isn’t that many steps removed from setting up camps for the people on the list (in my opinion, obviously). And when the coin (inevitably) flips then the other side tends to take their turn at rounding people up.static111 said:
And why shouldn’t hateful racist trump supporters be blackballed?DarthMaeglin said:
I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.
That said, if actual crimes were committed, then it’s the place of the legal authorities to investigate and prosecute, which can blackball people from many jobs via a criminal record. As we all know, destruction of evidence is a crime, and nothing on the internet truly disappears.
As I said before this will only exacerbate the division, not unify, which Biden claims is his goal.
And just for full disclosure and clarity, I’m posting safely north of the U.S. border.
The standard I usually try to employ is “if the other person does it, is it ok?” In this case I might find myself on AOC’s list, but I implore everyone to try my exercise asking if the Republicans had won and a senator wanted to archive materials posted by their opponents to use against them, would it be acceptable? I honestly can’t tell if my question’s rhetorical or not, lol."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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In reference to the Trump Accountability Project (there’s apparently 2, not the one associated with GLAAD), when they talk of not letting people that worked in the administration into “polite society”, that’s flat-out stupid, I’m sorry (though I expect it’s an idea that will have traction on these boards)."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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Here's an example: I used to be generally supportive of Rand Paul. He's said and done some weird shit, with an endorsement of Roy Moore being right up there with the weirdest shit. I want people to document that and take him to task for it, mostly because it is so disappointing. That is not a slippery slope toward putting him in a camp.DarthMaeglin said:
I agree, the list may be removed from the camps, but it’s one of the first steps in that direction historically. In a free and open democracy lists like this are downright offensive and will set a very, very bad precedent. This like some weird mix of Stalin meets McCarthy.pjl44 said:
Taking note of someone's public statements is many, many steps removed from setting up campsDarthMaeglin said:
I don’t know which side of my values this springs from, but making lists like this isn’t that many steps removed from setting up camps for the people on the list (in my opinion, obviously). And when the coin (inevitably) flips then the other side tends to take their turn at rounding people up.static111 said:
And why shouldn’t hateful racist trump supporters be blackballed?DarthMaeglin said:
I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.
That said, if actual crimes were committed, then it’s the place of the legal authorities to investigate and prosecute, which can blackball people from many jobs via a criminal record. As we all know, destruction of evidence is a crime, and nothing on the internet truly disappears.
As I said before this will only exacerbate the division, not unify, which Biden claims is his goal.
And just for full disclosure and clarity, I’m posting safely north of the U.S. border.
The standard I usually try to employ is “if the other person does it, is it ok?” In this case I might find myself on AOC’s list, but I implore everyone to try my exercise asking if the Republicans had won and a senator wanted to archive materials posted by their opponents to use against them, would it be acceptable? I honestly can’t tell if my question’s rhetorical or not, lol.
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In your case I wouldn’t necessarily be against keeping track of Paul’s statements for one simple reason: he chose to enter politics and has therefore chosen to become a public figure. But that doesn’t seem to be what AOC is calling for. It sounds like she wants everyday citizens in her archives/on her list, and when I scrolled through her twitter feed earlier didn’t see anything by way of clarification on that front. If I was on the platform I might try and ask her what she meant, I’ll try the 2 social media sites I am on and post any reply here.pjl44 said:
Here's an example: I used to be generally supportive of Rand Paul. He's said and done some weird shit, with an endorsement of Roy Moore being right up there with the weirdest shit. I want people to document that and take him to task for it, mostly because it is so disappointing. That is not a slippery slope toward putting him in a camp.DarthMaeglin said:
I agree, the list may be removed from the camps, but it’s one of the first steps in that direction historically. In a free and open democracy lists like this are downright offensive and will set a very, very bad precedent. This like some weird mix of Stalin meets McCarthy.pjl44 said:
Taking note of someone's public statements is many, many steps removed from setting up campsDarthMaeglin said:
I don’t know which side of my values this springs from, but making lists like this isn’t that many steps removed from setting up camps for the people on the list (in my opinion, obviously). And when the coin (inevitably) flips then the other side tends to take their turn at rounding people up.static111 said:
And why shouldn’t hateful racist trump supporters be blackballed?DarthMaeglin said:
I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.
That said, if actual crimes were committed, then it’s the place of the legal authorities to investigate and prosecute, which can blackball people from many jobs via a criminal record. As we all know, destruction of evidence is a crime, and nothing on the internet truly disappears.
As I said before this will only exacerbate the division, not unify, which Biden claims is his goal.
And just for full disclosure and clarity, I’m posting safely north of the U.S. border.
The standard I usually try to employ is “if the other person does it, is it ok?” In this case I might find myself on AOC’s list, but I implore everyone to try my exercise asking if the Republicans had won and a senator wanted to archive materials posted by their opponents to use against them, would it be acceptable? I honestly can’t tell if my question’s rhetorical or not, lol."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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100%. You don't need to be a DSA member to understand that a vast swath of Republicans are gonna try to run away from their Trumpy positions once it's no longer politically expedient.static111 said:
Agreed it is often the route to positive long lasting change!pjl44 said:Holding politicians accountable is not Stalinism0 -
It can be pundits, too. I don't know who would be trying to compile such a list of average joes or why.DarthMaeglin said:
In your case I wouldn’t necessarily be against keeping track of Paul’s statements for one simple reason: he chose to enter politics and has therefore chosen to become a public figure. But that doesn’t seem to be what AOC is calling for. It sounds like she wants everyday citizens in her archives/on her list, and when I scrolled through her twitter feed earlier didn’t see anything by way of clarification on that front. If I was on the platform I might try and ask her what she meant, I’ll try the 2 social media sites I am on and post any reply here.pjl44 said:
Here's an example: I used to be generally supportive of Rand Paul. He's said and done some weird shit, with an endorsement of Roy Moore being right up there with the weirdest shit. I want people to document that and take him to task for it, mostly because it is so disappointing. That is not a slippery slope toward putting him in a camp.DarthMaeglin said:
I agree, the list may be removed from the camps, but it’s one of the first steps in that direction historically. In a free and open democracy lists like this are downright offensive and will set a very, very bad precedent. This like some weird mix of Stalin meets McCarthy.pjl44 said:
Taking note of someone's public statements is many, many steps removed from setting up campsDarthMaeglin said:
I don’t know which side of my values this springs from, but making lists like this isn’t that many steps removed from setting up camps for the people on the list (in my opinion, obviously). And when the coin (inevitably) flips then the other side tends to take their turn at rounding people up.static111 said:
And why shouldn’t hateful racist trump supporters be blackballed?DarthMaeglin said:
I read a couple articles about it and it sounds very vigilante to me with a lack of clarity in her suggestion and an idea rife with the potential to be misused (blackballing Trump supporters has been suggested), I guess. It will do nothing to bring people together which is what’s most needed in this moment. Hopefully Biden or Pelosi or someone can reel in AOC.static111 said:
Sounds to me she just wants to make sure people can’t run away from their associations with trump come reelection time. Not a purge. Just to hold them accountable.DarthMaeglin said:Sounds like both sides are urging a purge based on the above post’s headline and this one...both are the worst kind of wrong in my opinion (I realize a purge of Trump supporters will be very popular in this district, lol).
https://nypost.com/2020/11/06/aoc-facing-heat-for-wanting-to-archive-posts-by-trump-sycophants/Edit: I misread the headline I referenced, is Scarborough (ironically the name of the suburb I live in, lol) a conservative or liberal? I thought he was on the con side.
That said, if actual crimes were committed, then it’s the place of the legal authorities to investigate and prosecute, which can blackball people from many jobs via a criminal record. As we all know, destruction of evidence is a crime, and nothing on the internet truly disappears.
As I said before this will only exacerbate the division, not unify, which Biden claims is his goal.
And just for full disclosure and clarity, I’m posting safely north of the U.S. border.
The standard I usually try to employ is “if the other person does it, is it ok?” In this case I might find myself on AOC’s list, but I implore everyone to try my exercise asking if the Republicans had won and a senator wanted to archive materials posted by their opponents to use against them, would it be acceptable? I honestly can’t tell if my question’s rhetorical or not, lol.0 -
Not that there’s anything wrong with being a DSA member...pjl44 said:
100%. You don't need to be a DSA member to understand that a vast swath of Republicans are gonna try to run away from their Trumpy positions once it's no longer politically expedient.static111 said:
Agreed it is often the route to positive long lasting change!pjl44 said:Holding politicians accountable is not StalinismScio me nihil scire
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- 39.1K Flea Market
- 39.1K Lost Dogs
- 58.7K Not Pearl Jam's Music
- 10.6K Musicians and Gearheads
- 29.1K Other Music
- 17.8K Poetry, Prose, Music & Art
- 1.1K The Art Wall
- 56.7K Non-Pearl Jam Discussion
- 22.2K A Moving Train
- 31.7K All Encompassing Trip
- 2.9K Technical Stuff and Help