Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PRESIDENT JOE BERNIE BIDEN
    Fuck dont want to get my hopes up but WI,NV,MI holding and not needing PA and GA has me hyped!
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    JimmyV said:
    Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated. 
    I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
    Everyone is responsible for their vote and its consequences, but if it weren't for the Murdochs this electorate would look a lot different. They created a monster. They are not entirely to blame, there are other factors, but Fox News is the biggest. And social media has not helped. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    I'm sitting this one out
    tbergs said:
    JimmyV said:
    Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated. 
    I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
    I feel, as an outsider, that you also have turned politics into a team sports with derbys every 4 years. You don't give up your team no matter what shit heads play on the field. And being a democrat or a republican seems to be very ingrained in you. Team A and Team B. 

    But also, you are overwhelmingly democratic but has constructed a system to keep it even.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PRESIDENT JOE BERNIE BIDEN
    are they calling this in the european media? have not seen it here yet. hope you are right though.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    I'm sitting this one out
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PRESIDENT JOE BERNIE BIDEN
    are they calling this in the european media? have not seen it here yet. hope you are right though.
    No. i'm just screaming positive things out.



    Biden: 2,518,923
    Trump: 2,500,843

    18,080
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,875
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PRESIDENT JOE BERNIE BIDEN
    are they calling this in the european media? have not seen it here yet. hope you are right though.
    No. i'm just screaming positive things out.



    Biden: 2,518,923
    Trump: 2,500,843

    18,080
    oh ok. keep going! haha
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    tbergs said:
    JimmyV said:
    Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated. 
    I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
    I feel, as an outsider, that you also have turned politics into a team sports with derbys every 4 years. You don't give up your team no matter what shit heads play on the field. And being a democrat or a republican seems to be very ingrained in you. Team A and Team B. 

    But also, you are overwhelmingly democratic but has constructed a system to keep it even.
    This is pretty accurate imo.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    Biden
    Joe is likely ending up at 270.  Crazy close.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    Biden
    I hope the Republicans keep the Senate.  I don’t want either party to control everything.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    I'm sitting this one out
    bootlegger10 said:
    I hope the Republicans keep the Senate.  I don’t want either party to control everything.
    Rather have climate change-deniers not control anything.

    I have a feeling the fight for the climate and other things will go smoother then.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,895
    Biden
    bootlegger10 said:
    I hope the Republicans keep the Senate.  I don’t want either party to control everything.
    I usually dont.  While it would be great theoretically to see all my progressive ideas slide through (there are many I strongly dislike too), it would create an even more violent swing and it would eventually swing the other way.  

    Maybe having it split can reel things in a bit toward the center and compromise?  I know its asking for unicorns perhaps with McConnell.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,208
    Biden
    No matter who wins there is nothing for anyone to celebrate.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited November 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    static111 said:
    No matter who wins there is nothing for anyone to celebrate.
    I think you can celebrate with one. Maybe two beers.

    But not a full sixpack.

    And just have Trump wither away for four years untill the next election
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    I'm sitting this one out
    If things hold up how they're looking, Biden winning the Presidency, Republicans holding the Senate, and drug prohibition being routed in ballot initiatives is about the best outcome I could have hoped for.

    If you're a Democrat, stop blaming bogeyman and figure out how to appeal to voters. Cable news is filled with bullshit across the board - it's not the exclusive domain of Fox. Maybe this will finally spur Ds to have the honest post-mortem they never undertook after 2016. Or not. Who knows. Probably best to just keep scolding everyone who doesn't vote with you.
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,726
    I'm sitting this one out
    so seems WI and MI goes biden...so if he keeps nevada he get 270 and no need PA

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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,663
    I'm sitting this one out
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    static111 said:
    No matter who wins there is nothing for anyone to celebrate.
    President Biden is worth celebrating.  JCPOA, North Korea, Climate agreement, etc.  There's a lot of things that can/can't happen regardless of the Senate.
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,895
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    If things hold up how they're looking, Biden winning the Presidency, Republicans holding the Senate, and drug prohibition being routed in ballot initiatives is about the best outcome I could have hoped for.

    If you're a Democrat, stop blaming bogeyman and figure out how to appeal to voters. Cable news is filled with bullshit across the board - it's not the exclusive domain of Fox. Maybe this will finally spur Ds to have the honest post-mortem they never undertook after 2016. Or not. Who knows. Probably best to just keep scolding everyone who doesn't vote with you.
    wait, you dont think that burning city centers while yelling 'defund the police' is a sound campaign strategy?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    Biden
    I will absolutely celebrate a Trump loss and I will never pretend a Mitch McConnell majority in the senate is a good thing. I have been an independent voter since January of 1994 and this election is the first time I can remember voting straight ticket for the Dems. It was the Republican party that drive me to that. Split party rule only works when we have two functioning parties. We don't have that right now and haven't for a while. 
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    Biden
    We might know GA today...a Biden win there would obviously be huge.  Lots of Atlanta votes to be counted
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