Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532
    Biden
    i did not go back through the last 2 pages so not sure if this has been discussed, but what if trump wins the popular vote but loses the electoral college?

    do you think there will be enough support on both sides to get rid of the electoral college in favor of a true winner take all popular vote?

    theres a little history in yestersays letter from an american.on ec and how and when it changed.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Biden
    I'm glad I took today off. Three hours of sleep plus never really sobering up would have been a shit show. And the trends right now look good assuming all the votes get counted. Let's do this thing, America!
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    Okay, I'm just catching up here.  But I think things look good.  
    Biden won Nebraska's second district.  He looks to have won WI and he is less than a % behind in Michigan with 36% of Wayne County (Detroit) to go.  Those votes will be heavy Democratic.  So if my estimation/memory is correct, Biden should get to 270 with Michigan locking in place.  And it really should. Wayne is enormous and D. 

    No PA needed.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    Biden
    sometimes i wish i simply did not give a shit about people or politics.

    seems like life would be so much easier if my entire motivation was to simply own the libs and go about my life.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    edited November 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    Okay, I'm just catching up here.  But I think things look good.  
    Biden won Nebraska's second district.  He looks to have won WI and he is less than a % behind in Michigan with 36% of Wayne County (Detroit) to go.  Those votes will be heavy Democratic.  So if my estimation/memory is correct, Biden should get to 270 with Michigan locking in place.  And it really should. Wayne is enormous and D. 

    No PA needed.
    I would not call it "looking good". Should have been a landslide when the opponent is......... ....... ...... ..... .... ... .. . . Trump.

    But looking like a not good looking win is quite possible.

    Would be lovely if he wins a few of the swing states. And nice that he has gotten the most votes of any candidate in history.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,488
    edited November 2020
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Okay, I'm just catching up here.  But I think things look good.  
    Biden won Nebraska's second district.  He looks to have won WI and he is less than a % behind in Michigan with 36% of Wayne County (Detroit) to go.  Those votes will be heavy Democratic.  So if my estimation/memory is correct, Biden should get to 270 with Michigan locking in place.  And it really should. Wayne is enormous and D. 

    No PA needed.
    I would not call it "looking good". Should have been a landslide when the opponent is......... ....... ...... ..... .... ... .. . . Trump.

    But looking like a not good looking win is quite possible.

    Would be lovely if he wins a few of the swing states. And nice that he has gotten the most votes of any candidate in history.
    He flipped Arizona and the Nebraska district.  That's on top of the likely flips in WI and MI (although traditionally blue).  NC is close.  GA and TX were pipe dreams, which was my contention all along.  But what is true is that he ran much, much stronger in most states than Clinton. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,532
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Okay, I'm just catching up here.  But I think things look good.  
    Biden won Nebraska's second district.  He looks to have won WI and he is less than a % behind in Michigan with 36% of Wayne County (Detroit) to go.  Those votes will be heavy Democratic.  So if my estimation/memory is correct, Biden should get to 270 with Michigan locking in place.  And it really should. Wayne is enormous and D. 

    No PA needed.
    I would not call it "looking good". Should have been a landslide when the opponent is......... ....... ...... ..... .... ... .. . . Trump.

    But looking like a not good looking win is quite possible.

    Would be lovely if he wins a few of the swing states. And nice that he has gotten the most votes of any candidate in history.
    He flipped Arizona and the Nebraska district.  That's on top of the likely flips in WI and MI (although traditionally blue).  NC is close.  GA and TX were pipe dreams, which was my contention all along.  But what is true is that he ran much, much stronger in most states than Clinton. 

    with a consistent inclusive message
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Okay, I'm just catching up here.  But I think things look good.  
    Biden won Nebraska's second district.  He looks to have won WI and he is less than a % behind in Michigan with 36% of Wayne County (Detroit) to go.  Those votes will be heavy Democratic.  So if my estimation/memory is correct, Biden should get to 270 with Michigan locking in place.  And it really should. Wayne is enormous and D. 

    No PA needed.
    I would not call it "looking good". Should have been a landslide when the opponent is......... ....... ...... ..... .... ... .. . . Trump.

    But looking like a not good looking win is quite possible.

    Would be lovely if he wins a few of the swing states. And nice that he has gotten the most votes of any candidate in history.
    He flipped Arizona and the Nebraska district.  That's on top of the likely flips in WI and MI (although traditionally blue).  NC is close.  GA and TX were pipe dreams, which was my contention all along.  But what is true is that he ran much, much stronger in most states than Clinton. 
    But he did run against a guy who said an idea would be to inject disinfectants to rid covid? 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • I'm sitting this one out
    MICHIGAN

    IS

    BLUE
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Biden
    Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Okay, I'm just catching up here.  But I think things look good.  
    Biden won Nebraska's second district.  He looks to have won WI and he is less than a % behind in Michigan with 36% of Wayne County (Detroit) to go.  Those votes will be heavy Democratic.  So if my estimation/memory is correct, Biden should get to 270 with Michigan locking in place.  And it really should. Wayne is enormous and D. 

    No PA needed.
    I would not call it "looking good". Should have been a landslide when the opponent is......... ....... ...... ..... .... ... .. . . Trump.

    But looking like a not good looking win is quite possible.

    Would be lovely if he wins a few of the swing states. And nice that he has gotten the most votes of any candidate in history.
    He flipped Arizona and the Nebraska district.  That's on top of the likely flips in WI and MI (although traditionally blue).  NC is close.  GA and TX were pipe dreams, which was my contention all along.  But what is true is that he ran much, much stronger in most states than Clinton. 
    But he did run against a guy who said an idea would be to inject disinfectants to rid covid? 
    It's hard to underestimate the number of people in this country that ingest lies on a daily basis from right wing media.  They are completely brainwashed.  So you have this massive divide on what is truth vs what isn't.  
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,856
    Biden
    Come onnnn.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    Biden
    Sounds good to me

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Trump is 100% right. Again.  He is winning so they stop the count. Never been like this on history.  He called it a few weeks ago- he said if he was winning they’d play games or find a way to disrupt the election.  Everyone called him names and insults as the left usually does but he was 100% right.  Now we go to the courts.  

    If they don’t win, they want to eliminate electoral college.  If they don’t win they want to pack the court.  If they don’t win they won’t count any more votes.  What the hell is wrong with the left, it’s the party of “I’m taking my ball and Then no one will be able to play!”  Losers, man, just like trump said, just incredibly poor losers.

    we knew they wouldn’t play fair, and something extremely shady is going down once again in loony lefty land

    This is what 40% of America believes.  So here's the absolute nightmare scenario:
    • Biden wins 270 to 268.
    • MAGA riots. And they don't just break window and burn buildings. They put bullets in people.
    • Barr and the party-loyalist courts get it reversed.
    MAGA, bitches.
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,107
    Biden
    If Biden got the most votes in history, does that mean Trump got second most?  Trump got more votes than 2016 including more republicans votes.  What a shithole country.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,415
    Biden
    JimmyV said:
    Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated. 
    I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • I'm sitting this one out
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    JimmyV said:
    Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated. 
    I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.

    It's absolutely on the voter.  And it's partly educating themselves, but it's more about who they are.  The shit Trump does?  More features than bugs. 
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