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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    edited January 24
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    Kat said:
    Great news. :)

    Breaking: Jon Stewart is returning to The Daily Show as host ahead of the 2024 election. https://axios.com/2024/01/24/jon-stewart-daily-show-host-return-election
    WOW!  That is awesome news!  I will finally start watching it again.  

    The talent that was on that show was just off the charts.  Colbert, Carrell, Ed Helms, Samantha Bee, it was really amazing and hilarious every single night. 
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    Kat said:
    Great news. :)

    Breaking: Jon Stewart is returning to The Daily Show as host ahead of the 2024 election. https://axios.com/2024/01/24/jon-stewart-daily-show-host-return-election

    Yay! 
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
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    It looks like it'll be only on Mondays but at least it's something positive. His years on The Daily Show were never to be missed for sure. :)

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    LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,069
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    Kat said:
    It looks like it'll be only on Mondays but at least it's something positive. His years on The Daily Show were never to be missed for sure. :)

    Yay!!! Thanks for heads up :)
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    JesseMcKJesseMcK Maine Posts: 40
    edited January 25
    I wish Jon Stewart was a little bit dumber so he could be convinced to run for president.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,155
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    JesseMcK said:
    I wish Jon Stewart was a little but dumber so he could be convinced to run for president.
    trump has "a good brain", so why is he running? lol
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
    edited January 25
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    I guess trump. If the Democrats would replace Biden with a moderate Democrat then I would vote Democrat.

    I would never have thought I would vote for trump. I truely have disliked him even back when he was a democrat. Unfortunately here we are. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
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    smile6680 said:
    I guess trump. If the Democrats would replace Biden with a moderate Democrat then I would vote Democrat.

    I would never have thought I would vote for trump. I truely have disliked him even back when he was a democrat. Unfortunately here we are. 
    GDP too high?  Unemployment too low?  Biden is a moderate Democrat.  Trump is a radically right Republican.  
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,235
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    Biden not moderate enough :dizzy:
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,476
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
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    mrussel1 said:
    smile6680 said:
    I guess trump. If the Democrats would replace Biden with a moderate Democrat then I would vote Democrat.

    I would never have thought I would vote for trump. I truely have disliked him even back when he was a democrat. Unfortunately here we are. 
    GDP too high?  Unemployment too low?  Biden is a moderate Democrat.  Trump is a radically right Republican.  
    Biden WAS a moderate Democrat.  I made it clear that I would rather vote for someone other than Trump. I truly wonder who is making Bidens decisions currently. I also believe he isn't fit to run the country for four more years.

    Trump is a narcisist who would be radical left if that group would give him the attention he seeks. Just to be clear. I think Trump is a horrible human being.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,589
    smile6680 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    smile6680 said:
    I guess trump. If the Democrats would replace Biden with a moderate Democrat then I would vote Democrat.

    I would never have thought I would vote for trump. I truely have disliked him even back when he was a democrat. Unfortunately here we are. 
    GDP too high?  Unemployment too low?  Biden is a moderate Democrat.  Trump is a radically right Republican.  
    Biden WAS a moderate Democrat.  I made it clear that I would rather vote for someone other than Trump. I truly wonder who is making Bidens decisions currently. I also believe he isn't fit to run the country for four more years.

    Trump is a narcisist who would be radical left if that group would give him the attention he seeks. Just to be clear. I think Trump is a horrible human being.
    What or which policies of the Brandon administration are too liberal or not moderate enough? What indicates that Brandon is not fit to run the country for 4 more years? Other than the obvious of age, which doesn’t seem to be an issue at this point as it relates to his ability to accomplish things. Are you voting RFK JR. or another candidate in the primary and general?
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
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    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    I guess. It's tough being a moderate in today's world. The only way to balance things out is to vote for the other side when I see things going to far in one direction or the other. I'ts why I voted for Biden last time. I was hoping that this time around we would have better/new candidates. 

    I guess I can hope Haley gets nominated or Biden/the Democratic party decides to have someone replace him. 
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
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    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    Honest question. Do you believe Biden is mentally and physically capable of doing this job for the next almost 5 years?

    I get that you would rather have him than Trump. I get that. You may be right.I  just want to know what you think of Bidens ability to do the job for another term.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,610
    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    I guess. It's tough being a moderate in today's world. The only way to balance things out is to vote for the other side when I see things going to far in one direction or the other. I'ts why I voted for Biden last time. I was hoping that this time around we would have better/new candidates. 

    I guess I can hope Haley gets nominated or Biden/the Democratic party decides to have someone replace him. 
    Two reasons I don’t think you’re a moderate. 1. You think Biden isn’t moderate. 2. You’re going to vote for Trump. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,155
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    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    I guess. It's tough being a moderate in today's world. The only way to balance things out is to vote for the other side when I see things going to far in one direction or the other. I'ts why I voted for Biden last time. I was hoping that this time around we would have better/new candidates. 

    I guess I can hope Haley gets nominated or Biden/the Democratic party decides to have someone replace him. 
    Two reasons I don’t think you’re a moderate. 1. You think Biden isn’t moderate. 2. You’re going to vote for Trump. 
    definitely not a moderate. 

    nobody voting trump is a moderate.

    also, anybody that saw how trump performed while in office and said "yeah i want more of that" is not a moderate.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,155
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    "everything sucks right now. i am going to vote for the fascist that wants revenge for himself rather than the guy that is trying to help the most people."
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
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    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    I guess. It's tough being a moderate in today's world. The only way to balance things out is to vote for the other side when I see things going to far in one direction or the other. I'ts why I voted for Biden last time. I was hoping that this time around we would have better/new candidates. 

    I guess I can hope Haley gets nominated or Biden/the Democratic party decides to have someone replace him. 
    Two reasons I don’t think you’re a moderate. 1. You think Biden isn’t moderate. 2. You’re going to vote for Trump. 
    Biden was a moderate for a long time. I actually would even say he voted  more like moderate Republican for decades. He and Bernie Sanders would have lively debates about a lot of things. Especially over health care for all. 

    The Joe Biden that has become VP and now President is nothing like the Senator Joe Biden. Look at his voting record and statements he has made in the past. I would imagine you would agree with that.

    I get why you don't believe me. You don't know me, the internet is full people pretending to something they are not just to get people upset, and saying that i'm leaning towards voting for Trump. The world of politics sucks right now. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,628
    Biden
    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    Honest question. Do you believe Biden is mentally and physically capable of doing this job for the next almost 5 years?

    I get that you would rather have him than Trump. I get that. You may be right.I  just want to know what you think of Bidens ability to do the job for another term.
    Capable for the next 5?  I don't know.  But I think he's more capable than Trump who is showing significant decline as well.  So if both are suboptimal,  which they are,  you still have to make a choice.  

    Your statement about "who is running the country" makes me curious on where you get your information.  That talking point is prevalent on the right where they think Obama is really in charge.  If you think that,  well then you definitely should vote for Biden. 

    BTW, Biden's position on Ukraine and supporting Israel should be all the clue you need to know whether he's a moderate or a progressive. 
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,476
    edited January 26
    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    Honest question. Do you believe Biden is mentally and physically capable of doing this job for the next almost 5 years?

    I get that you would rather have him than Trump. I get that. You may be right.I  just want to know what you think of Bidens ability to do the job for another term.
    So the hang up w/ Biden has changed from ‘he’s not moderate enough’ to ‘he’s not physically or mentally capable’? 

    Got it. 
    Unfortunately him & trump are going to be our choices, and yes, I believe Biden is a more capable president than trump in pretty much every way possible. Biden’s negative attributes don’t exist in a vacuum, and I’m not willing to ignore trump’s criminality. Seems like a no brainer to me. 
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
    edited January 26
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    mrussel1 said:
    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    Honest question. Do you believe Biden is mentally and physically capable of doing this job for the next almost 5 years?

    I get that you would rather have him than Trump. I get that. You may be right.I  just want to know what you think of Bidens ability to do the job for another term.
    Capable for the next 5?  I don't know.  But I think he's more capable than Trump who is showing significant decline as well.  So if both are suboptimal,  which they are,  you still have to make a choice.  

    Your statement about "who is running the country" makes me curious on where you get your information.  That talking point is prevalent on the right where they think Obama is really in charge.  If you think that,  well then you definitely should vote for Biden. 

    BTW, Biden's position on Ukraine and supporting Israel should be all the clue you need to know whether he's a moderate or a progressive. 
    I agree with everything you said. The Ukraine and Israel situations have way more layers than an onion. A lot of politicians are grand standing on those two issues.

    As far as the running the country statement. It goes back to what I've said about Biden. He is not even close to the politician he used to be. I just wish he would realize that and have someone else run in his place. I truly believe a different Democrate nominee would crush Trump.  It's a bad situation we are in. 
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
    edited January 26
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    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    Honest question. Do you believe Biden is mentally and physically capable of doing this job for the next almost 5 years?

    I get that you would rather have him than Trump. I get that. You may be right.I  just want to know what you think of Bidens ability to do the job for another term.
    So the hang up w/ Biden has changed from ‘he’s not moderate enough’ to ‘he’s not physically or mentally capable’? 

    Got it. 
    Unfortunately him & trump are going to be our choices, and yes, I believe Biden is a more capable president than trump in pretty much every way possible. Biden’s negative attributes don’t exist in a vacuum, and I’m not willing to ignore trump’s criminality. Seems like a no brainer to me. 
    Fair enough. You may be correct. One of the main reasons I'm considering Biden is because I don't have any Idea how Trump is going to fill his cabinet with even close to qualified people.
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
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    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    Honest question. Do you believe Biden is mentally and physically capable of doing this job for the next almost 5 years?

    I get that you would rather have him than Trump. I get that. You may be right.I  just want to know what you think of Bidens ability to do the job for another term.
    So the hang up w/ Biden has changed from ‘he’s not moderate enough’ to ‘he’s not physically or mentally capable’? 

    Got it. 
    Unfortunately him & trump are going to be our choices, and yes, I believe Biden is a more capable president than trump in pretty much every way possible. Biden’s negative attributes don’t exist in a vacuum, and I’m not willing to ignore trump’s criminality. Seems like a no brainer to me. 
    Sorry to quote you twice on the same statement you made. Just to be clear. I wasn't trying to "change" why I have reservations about voting for Biden. I was just giving more thoughts on it.
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    smile6680smile6680 Posts: 342
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    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    I guess. It's tough being a moderate in today's world. The only way to balance things out is to vote for the other side when I see things going to far in one direction or the other. I'ts why I voted for Biden last time. I was hoping that this time around we would have better/new candidates. 

    I guess I can hope Haley gets nominated or Biden/the Democratic party decides to have someone replace him. 
    Two reasons I don’t think you’re a moderate. 1. You think Biden isn’t moderate. 2. You’re going to vote for Trump. 
    definitely not a moderate. 

    nobody voting trump is a moderate.

    also, anybody that saw how trump performed while in office and said "yeah i want more of that" is not a moderate.
    I'm at least trying to have a conversation. If you are going to say that I'm not a moderate. How can I possibly prove it. I guess I'll move along. 


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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,610
    smile6680 said:
    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    I guess. It's tough being a moderate in today's world. The only way to balance things out is to vote for the other side when I see things going to far in one direction or the other. I'ts why I voted for Biden last time. I was hoping that this time around we would have better/new candidates. 

    I guess I can hope Haley gets nominated or Biden/the Democratic party decides to have someone replace him. 
    Two reasons I don’t think you’re a moderate. 1. You think Biden isn’t moderate. 2. You’re going to vote for Trump. 
    Biden was a moderate for a long time. I actually would even say he voted  more like moderate Republican for decades. He and Bernie Sanders would have lively debates about a lot of things. Especially over health care for all. 

    The Joe Biden that has become VP and now President is nothing like the Senator Joe Biden. Look at his voting record and statements he has made in the past. I would imagine you would agree with that.

    I get why you don't believe me. You don't know me, the internet is full people pretending to something they are not just to get people upset, and saying that i'm leaning towards voting for Trump. The world of politics sucks right now. 
    I can look at the last 3 years to determine he’s a moderate. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,589
    smile6680 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    Honest question. Do you believe Biden is mentally and physically capable of doing this job for the next almost 5 years?

    I get that you would rather have him than Trump. I get that. You may be right.I  just want to know what you think of Bidens ability to do the job for another term.
    Capable for the next 5?  I don't know.  But I think he's more capable than Trump who is showing significant decline as well.  So if both are suboptimal,  which they are,  you still have to make a choice.  

    Your statement about "who is running the country" makes me curious on where you get your information.  That talking point is prevalent on the right where they think Obama is really in charge.  If you think that,  well then you definitely should vote for Biden. 

    BTW, Biden's position on Ukraine and supporting Israel should be all the clue you need to know whether he's a moderate or a progressive. 
    I agree with everything you said. The Ukraine and Israel situations have way more layers than an onion. A lot of politicians are grand standing on those two issues.

    As far as the running the country statement. It goes back to what I've said about Biden. He is not even close to the politician he used to be. I just wish he would realize that and have someone else run in his place. I truly believe a different Democrate nominee would crush Trump.  It's a bad situation we are in. 
    smile6680 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    Honest question. Do you believe Biden is mentally and physically capable of doing this job for the next almost 5 years?

    I get that you would rather have him than Trump. I get that. You may be right.I  just want to know what you think of Bidens ability to do the job for another term.
    Capable for the next 5?  I don't know.  But I think he's more capable than Trump who is showing significant decline as well.  So if both are suboptimal,  which they are,  you still have to make a choice.  

    Your statement about "who is running the country" makes me curious on where you get your information.  That talking point is prevalent on the right where they think Obama is really in charge.  If you think that,  well then you definitely should vote for Biden. 

    BTW, Biden's position on Ukraine and supporting Israel should be all the clue you need to know whether he's a moderate or a progressive. 
    I agree with everything you said. The Ukraine and Israel situations have way more layers than an onion. A lot of politicians are grand standing on those two issues.

    As far as the running the country statement. It goes back to what I've said about Biden. He is not even close to the politician he used to be. I just wish he would realize that and have someone else run in his place. I truly believe a different Democrate nominee would crush Trump.  It's a bad situation we are in. 
    It’s only a “bad situation” if you help elect POOTWH.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,155
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    smile6680 said:
    smile6680 said:
    ‘Biden’s not moderate enough so I’m voting for trump’ is just precious. 
    I guess. It's tough being a moderate in today's world. The only way to balance things out is to vote for the other side when I see things going to far in one direction or the other. I'ts why I voted for Biden last time. I was hoping that this time around we would have better/new candidates. 

    I guess I can hope Haley gets nominated or Biden/the Democratic party decides to have someone replace him. 
    Two reasons I don’t think you’re a moderate. 1. You think Biden isn’t moderate. 2. You’re going to vote for Trump. 
    definitely not a moderate. 

    nobody voting trump is a moderate.

    also, anybody that saw how trump performed while in office and said "yeah i want more of that" is not a moderate.
    I'm at least trying to have a conversation. If you are going to say that I'm not a moderate. How can I possibly prove it. I guess I'll move along. 


    don't move along. just be very aware of what you will be getting if you support trump and he wins. it will be the exact same as before, but further right and more lawless, and more cruel. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,261
    Biden
    "everything sucks right now. i am going to vote for the fascist that wants revenge for himself rather than the guy that is trying to help the most people."
    Right? There are no "moderates" who believe this. At least not the one's who've been paying attention for the last 9 years. 

    I also find it funny that he thinks Biden is too far on the left...if that's true why are so many progressives and liberals upset with him? lol
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