Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you allow changes like capping the age,

    then should at the same time the change be done so that someone born outside of the US could be president?
    Totally different topic.  Haven't thought much about that, concern is first that these guys are both too old for what I believe is the most demanding job in the US.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,517
    Biden
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you allow changes like capping the age,

    then should at the same time the change be done so that someone born outside of the US could be president?
    Totally different topic.  Haven't thought much about that, concern is first that these guys are both too old for what I believe is the most demanding job in the US.
    I agree! Being the head football coach at Notre Dame is quite demanding and should not be left to someone who is a cheeseburger short of a heart attack.

    Unrelated, I would be willing to buy Donald a nice greasy cheeseburger. 
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you allow changes like capping the age,

    then should at the same time the change be done so that someone born outside of the US could be president?
    Totally different topic.  Haven't thought much about that, concern is first that these guys are both too old for what I believe is the most demanding job in the US.
    Let the voters decide that,  not a discriminatory law. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:




    Good trend lines,  but still polling data,  not actual data.  But if accurate,  that would give Biden a substantial popular vote victory.  We won't have 200 million votes. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    Biden
    darwinstheory said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you allow changes like capping the age,

    then should at the same time the change be done so that someone born outside of the US could be president?
    Totally different topic.  Haven't thought much about that, concern is first that these guys are both too old for what I believe is the most demanding job in the US.
    I agree! Being the head football coach at Notre Dame is quite demanding and should not be left to someone who is a cheeseburger short of a heart attack.

    Unrelated, I would be willing to buy Donald a nice greasy cheeseburger. 
    Ha!
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you allow changes like capping the age,

    then should at the same time the change be done so that someone born outside of the US could be president?
    Totally different topic.  Haven't thought much about that, concern is first that these guys are both too old for what I believe is the most demanding job in the US.
    Let the voters decide that,  not a discriminatory law. 
    I don't trust the voters that is why we have the choices we have.
    I know we disagree and are not changing positions on this one.  
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you allow changes like capping the age,

    then should at the same time the change be done so that someone born outside of the US could be president?
    Totally different topic.  Haven't thought much about that, concern is first that these guys are both too old for what I believe is the most demanding job in the US.
    Let the voters decide that,  not a discriminatory law. 
    I don't trust the voters that is why we have the choices we have.
    I know we disagree and are not changing positions on this one.  
    Any other groups that shouldn't be allowed to run for office?  
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you allow changes like capping the age,

    then should at the same time the change be done so that someone born outside of the US could be president?
    Totally different topic.  Haven't thought much about that, concern is first that these guys are both too old for what I believe is the most demanding job in the US.
    Let the voters decide that,  not a discriminatory law. 
    I don't trust the voters that is why we have the choices we have.
    I know we disagree and are not changing positions on this one.  
    Any other groups that shouldn't be allowed to run for office?  
    You want to argue about this, I can tell.
    80 year olds (as well as 75 year olds) should not be president.  
    I know you think this makes me an awful person.  I guess I will have to live with that.  
    My feeling is that looking past age as a limiting factor is something best left for tshirts, bumper stickers, and old people.

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mrussel1 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    If you allow changes like capping the age,

    then should at the same time the change be done so that someone born outside of the US could be president?
    Totally different topic.  Haven't thought much about that, concern is first that these guys are both too old for what I believe is the most demanding job in the US.
    Let the voters decide that,  not a discriminatory law. 
    I don't trust the voters that is why we have the choices we have.
    I know we disagree and are not changing positions on this one.  
    Any other groups that shouldn't be allowed to run for office?  
    You want to argue about this, I can tell.
    80 year olds (as well as 75 year olds) should not be president.  
    I know you think this makes me an awful person.  I guess I will have to live with that.  
    My feeling is that looking past age as a limiting factor is something best left for tshirts, bumper stickers, and old people.

    I don't think it makes you awful,  but I think it's arbitrary and discriminatory. Judge and vote for people on their personal merits not their demographic.  There are 46 million Americans that voted for Trump that are not remotely qualified to be president,  particularly compared to Biden, yet they would be eligible.  Makes no sense. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    Biden
    It is ok to discriminate on age when the person is 32 or 34, but not 74 or 97?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    F Me In The Brain said:
    It is ok to discriminate on age when the person is 32 or 34, but not 74 or 97?
    That's in the constitution.  Put up an amendment to lower,  I would support it.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    Biden
    Well, agree to disagree.  Not something I have only thought about a few times.  I've yet to hear an argument against it that changes how I feel.
    Seen way too many people go from high functioning to not in a short period of time once into 70s.  
    This is not the job to let people work beyond their capabilities.  Way too important and way too demanding.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    I'm sitting this one out
    So, should people not born in the US be able to be president? Let's say Arnold or someone coming here as a refugee as a kid etc?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, should people not born in the US be able to be president? Let's say Arnold or someone coming here as a refugee as a kid etc?
    That's also a constitutional issue.  I might be supportive so long as there was a minimum amount of time as a citizen and there was no dual citizenship. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Biden
    I would vote for Neil Young for president.  He's old and has dual citizenship!  :smiley:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited November 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    brianlux said:
    I would vote for Neil Young for president.  He's old and has dual citizenship!  :smiley:
    Neil Young would be bored after 3 months, leave a note with the press secretary "eat a peach" and go record another album with a sound no one could see coming.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Biden
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    brianlux said:
    I would vote for Neil Young for president.  He's old and has dual citizenship!  :smiley:
    Neil Young would be bored after 3 months, leave a note with the press secretary "eat a peach" and go record another album with a sound no one could see coming.
    That's about right
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Biden
    I'm sure Neil has no such ambitions. 
    Probably not Arnold either.
    So let's go with Bruce Willis.  Born in Germany, 65 years old.  Capable of destroying all enemies with his bare hands.

    There you go.  Bruce Willis for President, 2024.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,208
    Biden
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    I'm sitting this one out
    brianlux said:
    Probably not Arnold either.



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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