2020 Presidential Debates aka night 1 "The Cleveland Steamer"

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  • hedonist
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  • mickeyrat said:
    take YOUR shitshow elsewhere.  the threads had its fill from last night.
    Was thinking the same thing...after last night..."How could a debate be any worse"

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited September 2020
    When you win a debate, this isn't the morning news cycle.

    Trump aides struggle to defend Proud Boys remarks at debate


    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518937-trump-aides-struggle-to-defend-proud-boys-remarks-at-debate

    Edit - it's funny, when Wallace started asking him to condemn white supremacists I was thinking.. OMG, just give him the easiest question in the world.  Ask him if he likes Hitler or not.  But then somehow, Trump fucked that up.  Amazing.  
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  • Yep let’s get back to the actual meat of the subject! I think Biden did fine considering he had to talk over the Covidiot multiple times, Wallace came out of this debate for the worse he had no control I hope to not see him ever again as a moderator. He just needs to keep interviewing the idiot he seems better at that, for instance he should of asked the idiot about his proclamation of Health care program was to be announced in two weeks in his own interview of the moron...
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    edited September 2020
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    mrussel1 said:
    When you win a debate, this isn't the morning news cycle.

    Trump aides struggle to defend Proud Boys remarks at debate


    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518937-trump-aides-struggle-to-defend-proud-boys-remarks-at-debate

    Edit - it's funny, when Wallace started asking him to condemn white supremacists I was thinking.. OMG, just give him the easiest question in the world.  Ask him if he likes Hitler or not.  But then somehow, Trump fucked that up.  Amazing.  
    "stand by, proud boys" was possibly the absolute worst thing he could have said other than just putting up his hand and yelling sieg heil. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,398
    mrussel1 said:
    When you win a debate, this isn't the morning news cycle.

    Trump aides struggle to defend Proud Boys remarks at debate


    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518937-trump-aides-struggle-to-defend-proud-boys-remarks-at-debate

    Edit - it's funny, when Wallace started asking him to condemn white supremacists I was thinking.. OMG, just give him the easiest question in the world.  Ask him if he likes Hitler or not.  But then somehow, Trump fucked that up.  Amazing.  
    "stand by, proud boys" was possibly the absolute worst thing he could have said other than just putting up his hand and yelling sieg heil. 
    So fucked up. Trump had the opportunity to really take the advantage when Biden danced around the BLM question. When Wallace asked that, I was like, damn, easy answer here, but then he paused as if he was almost ready to denounce them before some bad talking point alarm went off in his head and he pivoted to attacking the far left. And then his comment, I just sat there like, WTF? Horrible.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mrussel1 said:
    When you win a debate, this isn't the morning news cycle.

    Trump aides struggle to defend Proud Boys remarks at debate


    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518937-trump-aides-struggle-to-defend-proud-boys-remarks-at-debate

    Edit - it's funny, when Wallace started asking him to condemn white supremacists I was thinking.. OMG, just give him the easiest question in the world.  Ask him if he likes Hitler or not.  But then somehow, Trump fucked that up.  Amazing.  
    "stand by, proud boys" was possibly the absolute worst thing he could have said other than just putting up his hand and yelling sieg heil. 
    Even that lackey Brian Kilmeade from Fox and Friends said he "blew the easiest layup". That's the damn truth.  
  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    When you win a debate, this isn't the morning news cycle.

    Trump aides struggle to defend Proud Boys remarks at debate


    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/518937-trump-aides-struggle-to-defend-proud-boys-remarks-at-debate

    Edit - it's funny, when Wallace started asking him to condemn white supremacists I was thinking.. OMG, just give him the easiest question in the world.  Ask him if he likes Hitler or not.  But then somehow, Trump fucked that up.  Amazing.  
    "stand by, proud boys" was possibly the absolute worst thing he could have said other than just putting up his hand and yelling sieg heil. 
    Even that lackey Brian Kilmeade from Fox and Friends said he "blew the easiest layup". That's the damn truth.  
    But even if he did denounce them he would of been lying there’s no way I’d believe it coming out of his crooked mouth. 
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  • Kat
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    I’m not surprised that the atmosphere is tense because what happened last night would make anyone tense. It’s not where we want to be. Please take about TEN DEEP BREATHS, move past any insults that clearly contribute to the irritability here and let’s have a discussion about the topic. We want what is best for our country going forward and people will need to come together again. How can we get there? Please make sure to vote. 
    Apologies have power so if you feel it’s good to make one, please do. Being kind with our words will also go a long way. This is food for thought….
    This thread will reopen shortly.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Everything Trump touches dies. He may have even killed the presidential debate.
  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,849
    I've seen a lot of posts and comments about how people turned this off because it was absurd.  I don't disagree with how absurd it was, but that's what makes it extremely important and I hope (HOPE!) Americans were watching and listening very carefully to the whole debate. 

    Trump wants you to talk about how ugly this was.  He wants you to talk about how 'rude' he was. Because it takes attention from the fact that this clown has no idea what he is doing. 

    He showed that he is not just doing nothing about the racial and social divides in your country, but as Biden put it, he is in fact adding fuel to the fires.

    He proved his is an egotistical, narcissistic, bigot. That's not fake news. That's not some pundit. This is based on his words and actions. 

    He denied climate change... saying he wants "crystal clear waters and clear skies"  (gimme a %&^*#! break) but said nothing about how to obtain that goal. And within minutes defended the energy sector and made sure to point out how important it was to the economy. 

    He took a question about race relations and within seconds defended the police.  THE institution that is causing the racial divide in America. 

    He has no plan for COVID. He says that masks are good and important (pulls the prop out of his jacket) Yet his family is in the front row actively disobeying a mask rule in the building.  He insults Biden's gatherings being too  small wanting the public to believe that he is so much cooler than Biden and that's why Biden doesn't have bigger rallies. No Don, Biden gives a crap about public health and the public in general you flaming pile of dog excrement. 

    He has no plan for health care. 

    He showed how fearful he is of losing, and thus telling the world and the country that this election is set to be rigged without an ounce of evidence. Only someone like Donald Trump, someone so little and insecure, would willingly toss democracy out the window and disrespect the flag, the oath of office, and every POTUS before him, just to protect his own image. 

    He showed how much of an asshole he was by taking the spotlight away from Biden as he tried to defend his son by insulting his other son. This coming after being criticized for calling dead soldiers losers and suckers. (Something Trump did not deny to the best of my knowledge.)

    It is completely remarkable that his clown is the POTUS.  Remarkable. This election is without a doubt the most important in American history. 
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  • brianlux
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    Like many, my chief complaint about the debate last night was that it was a shouting match.  My wife suggested that every time Trump interrupted Biden, Joe should have taken the approach you take with an unruly child: stand straight with your arms crossed and stare at him  until he quiets down and then ask for you time back (which Biden did a couple of times).  Show Trump who is the adult in the room.  Three men all shouting at the same times makes for chaos, not debate, and no one looks the better.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    brianlux said:
    Like many, my chief complaint about the debate last night was that it was a shouting match.  My wife suggested that every time Trump interrupted Biden, Joe should have taken the approach you take with an unruly child: stand straight with your arms crossed and stare at him  until he quiets down and then ask for you time back (which Biden did a couple of times).  Show Trump who is the adult in the room.  Three men all shouting at the same times makes for chaos, not debate, and no one looks the better.
    The problem is that Trump would never stop. It would be 90 minutes of a Twitter feed. 
  • dignin
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    mrussel1 said:
    brianlux said:
    Like many, my chief complaint about the debate last night was that it was a shouting match.  My wife suggested that every time Trump interrupted Biden, Joe should have taken the approach you take with an unruly child: stand straight with your arms crossed and stare at him  until he quiets down and then ask for you time back (which Biden did a couple of times).  Show Trump who is the adult in the room.  Three men all shouting at the same times makes for chaos, not debate, and no one looks the better.
    The problem is that Trump would never stop. It would be 90 minutes of a Twitter feed. 
    Exactly what i was going to say. you let the guy run his mouth it wouldn't stop. 
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    Parksy said:
    I've seen a lot of posts and comments about how people turned this off because it was absurd.  I don't disagree with how absurd it was, but that's what makes it extremely important and I hope (HOPE!) Americans were watching and listening very carefully to the whole debate. 

    Trump wants you to talk about how ugly this was.  He wants you to talk about how 'rude' he was. Because it takes attention from the fact that this clown has no idea what he is doing. 

    He showed that he is not just doing nothing about the racial and social divides in your country, but as Biden put it, he is in fact adding fuel to the fires.

    He proved his is an egotistical, narcissistic, bigot. That's not fake news. That's not some pundit. This is based on his words and actions. 

    He denied climate change... saying he wants "crystal clear waters and clear skies"  (gimme a %&^*#! break) but said nothing about how to obtain that goal. And within minutes defended the energy sector and made sure to point out how important it was to the economy. 

    He took a question about race relations and within seconds defended the police.  THE institution that is causing the racial divide in America. 

    He has no plan for COVID. He says that masks are good and important (pulls the prop out of his jacket) Yet his family is in the front row actively disobeying a mask rule in the building.  He insults Biden's gatherings being too  small wanting the public to believe that he is so much cooler than Biden and that's why Biden doesn't have bigger rallies. No Don, Biden gives a crap about public health and the public in general you flaming pile of dog excrement. 

    He has no plan for health care. 

    He showed how fearful he is of losing, and thus telling the world and the country that this election is set to be rigged without an ounce of evidence. Only someone like Donald Trump, someone so little and insecure, would willingly toss democracy out the window and disrespect the flag, the oath of office, and every POTUS before him, just to protect his own image. 

    He showed how much of an asshole he was by taking the spotlight away from Biden as he tried to defend his son by insulting his other son. This coming after being criticized for calling dead soldiers losers and suckers. (Something Trump did not deny to the best of my knowledge.)

    It is completely remarkable that his clown is the POTUS.  Remarkable. This election is without a doubt the most important in American history. 
    Great post. Agree 100%