2020 Presidential Debates aka night 1 "The Cleveland Steamer"

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,427
    Did anyone hear the white grievance dog whistle? 
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  • cincybearcat
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    wndowpayne said:
    How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,427
    Fearing elimination of the white race yet?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    cincybearcat said:
    wndowpayne said:
    How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Fearing elimination of the white race yet?
    Didn’t really get that from this. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,434
    cincybearcat said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.
    I agree
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    bootlegger10 said:
    This is boring.   No policy talk.  No one is going to learn a damn thing.

    One man is not letting the other one to talk, what do you expect? Biden is trying To talk policy but you are drawn to hear the bully.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Fearing elimination of the white race yet?
    Didn’t really get that from this. 
    You didn’t hear the dog whistle?
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,434
    Wallace challenging Biden pretty good.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,427
    Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat can’t publicly condemn white supremacists. BOO!
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  • Lerxst1992
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    edited September 2020
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    wndowpayne said:
    How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 

    Biden  called trump out about covid at his rallies and trump said it’s outside so it’s fine. Biden went further and said trump only had people in the front tested because he cares about getting it himself but didn’t test everyone not in the front because he doesn’t care about them.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,835
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.



    This is what the networks want or they would have always done this.  Interrupting others during the shows is nothing new....Trump is just a bigger ass than anyone so he makes it more annoying.

    I think Joe is too old and not on his game any longer ...but I don't know who could stand there and "debate" the fat bag of orange wind.

    It would be fun to see Kamala v. fatass

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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Can’t believe someone didn’t advise Trump to say that Antifa’s website directs to Joe’s. And come on, just condemn white supremacists, Donald. Don’t worry, they’ll understand. 
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Most people debating would be concerned about facts and truths and silly things like that.  Trump "debates"/argues absent those concerns.
    That is a decided advantage!
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    wndowpayne said:
    How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 

    Biden  called trump out about covid at his rallies and trump said it’s outside so it’s fine. Biden went further and said trump only had people in the front tested because he cares about getting it himself but didn’t test everyone not in the front because he doesn’t care about them.
    yes, but he's missed a LOT of opportunities. 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,434
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.



    This is what the networks want or they would have always done this.  Interrupting others during the shows is nothing new....Trump is just a bigger ass than anyone so he makes it more annoying.

    I think Joe is too old and not on his game any longer ...but I don't know who could stand there and "debate" the fat bag of orange wind.

    It would be fun to see Kamala v. fatass

    Kamala would obliterate him. Biden's stutter/stammer makes it easier for Trump to interject and talk over him.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • mrussel1
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    cincybearcat said:
    wndowpayne said:
    How do you not call him out on his own staff and people at rallies getting covid..
    Exactly. Joe is missing every opportunity.
    he's obviously sticking to very rehearsed, specific talking points. he isn't able to debate on the fly. it's too bad. i could do better. 

    Biden  called trump out about covid at his rallies and trump said it’s outside so it’s fine. Biden went further and said trump only had people in the front tested because he cares about getting it himself but didn’t test everyone not in the front because he doesn’t care about them.
    yes, but he's missed a LOT of opportunities. 
    You can't take every insult and respond.  He needs to speak America,  not argue with Trump.  I think he did well.  He chose his spots to dig back.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,578
    tbergs said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tbergs said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Hate trump. But Joe better wake the fuck up. 
    Hard to compete with a bully. They should have the mics cut in between answers. Trump is too distracting. Imagine trying to keep your focus on a serious answer with him constantly interrupting and side tracking.



    This is what the networks want or they would have always done this.  Interrupting others during the shows is nothing new....Trump is just a bigger ass than anyone so he makes it more annoying.

    I think Joe is too old and not on his game any longer ...but I don't know who could stand there and "debate" the fat bag of orange wind.

    It would be fun to see Kamala v. fatass

    Kamala would obliterate him. Biden's stutter/stammer makes it easier for Trump to interject and talk over him.
    agreed. obviously trump's prep team has told him just talk over him and you'll win. 
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