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Pre Orders
Sony was a complete shit show. No other way to describe it. No information for months, then a quick presentation with no preorder info, a tweet about preorders the next day, and then Walmart unleashed the kraken and chaos descended upon the internet. I got a pre-order notification email at about 7:30 from Best Buy and spent the next several hours hitting refresh / F5 with a system in my cart only to get gut punched. The only other experience I can make an analogy to is the Pearl Jam 20 ticket debacle.
Xbox: After the PS5 debacle, I decided I wasn’t going to sit at home and try for a Series X and get my soul crushed. The weather was way too nice on Tuesday. I decided to check in on my phone at 11 am Tuesday. I was in a woods, sitting on a log atop a hill with 2 bars of 4G service and was able to snag a Series X. People can say the Microsoft preorders were as bad as Sony, but at least we had a chance before the bots cleaned everything out.
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Exclusives
I’ve never cared too much about exclusives since I typically get both systems, but they are are a deal to some / most people. Sony has had a clear day 1 advantage, especially with Halo being pushed back. Microsoft has taking a lot of flac for not having exclusives, so they did what any super mega corp would do and backed up the Brinks truck to Bethesda and bought them for $7.5 billion dollars
(insert Sony’s reactions …)
Elder Scrolls and Fallout (and upcoming Star Field) are system sellers. Fortnite and Minecraft may be more popular, but the user base of those games still need lunch money from their parents. Sony will have an advantage for a year or two, but I imagine Microsoft will have a staggered release for Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 5 where you will have to wait a year to play them on PS5 … I don’t think they spent $7.5B to be a Sony game publisher. For perspective, Disney spent $4B on the entire Star Wars franchise.
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System and Hardware Pricing
I was pleasantly surprised to see the PS5 priced at $500 for disc and $400 for digital. I don’t need a disc drive so I was hoping to pick up a PS5 digital. That is a good deal. Yes the Series S is $300, but it is in a different weight class. PS5 and Series X are pretty much identical in components (slight edge to series X on paper). I think both companies are selling these at a loss on launch. Either way, it is a great deal for the consumer … basically getting a $1000 gaming PC for $500 / $400.
Now for controllers … PS4 controllers can play PS4 games on the PS5 but can’t play PS5 games on the PS5 … translation: get ready to buy more controllers at $70 if you want to play PS5 games on your PS5. Xbox current gen controllers will be able to play new Xbox Series X (I agrees they should have called the thing SCORPION or something …). This is something that people who already own Xbox controllers really need to consider because that is a huge cost savings … and a probably a reason why Sony was able to lower their pricing to competitive levels if they can make profit on selling new PS5 controllers.
Also for consideration for anyone with uber expensive racing wheels … it appears current Fanatec wheels on the current xbox will work with the Series X … I will be able to confirm when my Series X arrives … based on my history of racing wheels on Sony’s side, I do not expect to see cross-compatibility.
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Game Pricing
Uhhhggg … looks like the industry is moving to the $70 standard for new games. Enter Microsoft Game Pass: $10 / month for a huge amount of games is going to make a lot of sense for a lot of people. I’ve been tempted by it in the past, but since the PS4 was my primary system, I never tried it. You are going to get Halo / Forza / Fallout / Elder Scrolls / Doom / Gears day one for $10 a month. If you only plan on buying 2 of these games a year you will be saving money with Game Pass. Microsoft will continue to buyout studios making this an even better deal.
Sony has straight up said they can’t do what Microsoft is doing. It is cost prohibitive to them. And with news today on how to play an enhanced version of the current Spiderman game on PS5 … it requires you to own the PS4 version and then you also need to buy the ultimate version of the Miles Spiderman game to play an enhanced version, it is not a good look on what to expect in the future from Sony. Microsoft is enhancing current Forza and Gears games with 4K / 120 FPS for no charge.
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Good points Jason P.
I think the debacle surrounding the Xbox pre-orders was all about site overload, which is common for big releases of most anything. And sites like Amazon and Best Buy being slow (super slow in Amazon's case) to even get the pre-order page up.
I imagine the Sony pre-order was just as bad (or worse considering for popularity, despite the short notice).
The only thing I'll say is that I'm not convinced MS will time-limit the triple A Bethesda games to Xbox. On the one hand it will surely influence console sales to some degree, but every copy of that game sold on a bigger install base of Sony is still money in MS' pocket. I kind of think they'll get some new 1st party exclusive IPs, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Rygar said:Good points Jason P.
I think the debacle surrounding the Xbox pre-orders was all about site overload, which is common for big releases of most anything. And sites like Amazon and Best Buy being slow (super slow in Amazon's case) to even get the pre-order page up.
I imagine the Sony pre-order was just as bad (or worse considering for popularity, despite the short notice).
The only thing I'll say is that I'm not convinced MS will time-limit the triple A Bethesda games to Xbox. On the one hand it will surely influence console sales to some degree, but every copy of that game sold on a bigger install base of Sony is still money in MS' pocket. I kind of think they'll get some new 1st party exclusive IPs, but we'll have to wait and see.Yeah, that is just speculation on my part on when PS5 will get these. Lots of things for Microsoft to consider ... I think a lot will depend on how much of the market Microsoft controls when these games are ready for release. If they are leading sales of systems, they will probably launch day 1 on PS5 to avoid consumer blow-back. But if PS5 has a commanding market lead, it would only make sense to make them exclusives. Or they could go the route of Sony / COD Activision where the PS4 got exclusive game modes although I'm not sure that model fits Bethesda games.Still, they spent $7,500,000,000. Lonestar, can you give some perspective?Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Xbox Series X better have “The Show” baseball game... or I’m gonna throw mine off the roof
not playing a baseball game for years robbed me 😡
i wonder if the 4K Blu-ray Drive is a little better than Xbox one x0 -
I'm pretty sure The Show is on everything next year0
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That 2K game also got worse each and every year...
IMO, The Show is head and shoulders the best sports video game.0 -
CROJAM95 said:Xbox Series X better have “The Show” baseball game... or I’m gonna throw mine off the roof
not playing a baseball game for years robbed me 😡
i wonder if the 4K Blu-ray Drive is a little better than Xbox one x
As far as the Bethesda, MS deal. I think MS has a plan for this. That is a LOT of money spent for one developer. Yes, their games sell like crazy, but...
Both systems like are likely being sold at an initial loss. The components in each or by PC standards "old", but they are well worth more than the console price tag.
I suspect that MS will offer those games to Sony. They need to make money on game sales and I don't think reducing the sales field by 50% is a wise decision out of the gate. I do think they'll offer MS exclusives for those games. Ex: Xbox gets free or discounted expansions/DLC. Timed-First release on MS, etc. They still need to entice the purchase of the system.
I do think after the next round or two of Bethesda games goes out, I could see them going completely exclusive.
I'm actually excited for the next-gen. I will get a PS5...if I can actually get one. I hope MS can convince me to get an Xbox too.0 -
CROJAM95 said:MayDay10 said:That 2K game also got worse each and every year...
IMO, The Show is head and shoulders the best sports video game.
2K had so many glitches, would freeze all the time
Madden, it feels like I destroy the CPU. If I make it hard enough, the games come out VERY low scoring and its just frustrating. Statistics nowhere near realistic for a full season. I tried the Card Collecting mode and it just confused and overwhelmed me.
NHL games are decent. A few game modes and I feel like the card mode is very good. Franchise is decent. Again though, I feel like I get good enough and the game comes down to the CPU goalie being overpowered vs my goalie who is a civ. Shots would be like 45-14 me and the games are like 2-1. Not bad, but still not entirely realistic (not that realism is easy to create in these games).
Baseball feels like baseball. Their franchise mode blows the others out of the water with the full Minor Leagues. Their "Be A Pro" mode is great. The Diamond Dynasty mode is fantastic with so many old players to choose from, and its very user friendly (and very easy to have a great "no money" team).0 -
If anyone gets a lead on a PS5 please let me know. I want to dip my toe back in the gaming world.
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They'll eventually be available by November.I miss igotid880
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Go on to Gamestop.com now if your still looking. Looks like they are live for more pre-orders. I'd try to snag another for someone but afraid they'd cancel my previous order.0
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lmckenney24 said:Go on to Gamestop.com now if your still looking. Looks like they are live for more pre-orders. I'd try to snag another for someone but afraid they'd cancel my previous order.0
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