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            mace1229 said:The left should just echo what happened 4 years ago and remind them they should a SCOTUS shouldn’t be confirmed in an election year and let the voters decide who they want. Don’t think the right will follow their own rules from 4 years ago, but that’s what the left should be doing.Yes, yes, Mitch said we should let the people decide...but it doesn't apply here. The hypocrisy doesn't matter in a one-party system. It's Mitch's country..1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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If was was Graham, it'll be fun to watch him do an about-face when Trump pulls out a Milk Bone for him.mrussel1 said:
I think it was Graham who said a few months ago that he actually thought they should wait if it came up. We shall see.mace1229 said:The left should just echo what happened 4 years ago and remind them they should a SCOTUS shouldn’t be confirmed in an election year and let the voters decide who they want. Don’t think the right will follow their own rules from 4 years ago, but that’s what the left should be doing.
Either way, this is somewhat of an October surprise. It makes the SCOTUS front and center in the debates, bringing 2nd A, abortion and Obamacare as issues that will be discussed with more intensity than expected.
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Mitch already released a statement that he will bring Trumps nominee to a vote and said its different than blocking Obama in an election year because the American people have spoken by electing a senate majority to help the agenda of president trump... sickOnWis97 said:mace1229 said:The left should just echo what happened 4 years ago and remind them they should a SCOTUS shouldn’t be confirmed in an election year and let the voters decide who they want. Don’t think the right will follow their own rules from 4 years ago, but that’s what the left should be doing.Yes, yes, Mitch said we should let the people decide...but it doesn't apply here. The hypocrisy doesn't matter in a one-party system. It's Mitch's country..Scio me nihil scire
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            Stay classy Kentucky. https://www.republicanleader.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/mcconnell-statement-on-the-passing-of-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburgScio me nihil scire
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Of course he did because they don’t give a fuck about hypocrisy. Dems will cry foul all they want but that won’t get them anywhere. The only option is to play even harder. This of course will probably require Biden to win the election and dems take back senate. It if that does happen then you change the rules. Add seats to the Supreme Court and fill it with 5 super progressives. Of course you normally wouldn’t want to do something so drastic because when the other side regains power they could potentially do the same thing, but if the last 4 years have taught us anything it’s they don’t give two shits about norms or fairness.static111 said:
Mitch already released a statement that he will bring Trumps nominee to a vote and said its different than blocking Obama in an election year because the American people have spoken by electing a senate majority to help the agenda of president trump... sickOnWis97 said:mace1229 said:The left should just echo what happened 4 years ago and remind them they should a SCOTUS shouldn’t be confirmed in an election year and let the voters decide who they want. Don’t think the right will follow their own rules from 4 years ago, but that’s what the left should be doing.Yes, yes, Mitch said we should let the people decide...but it doesn't apply here. The hypocrisy doesn't matter in a one-party system. It's Mitch's country..0 - 
            what's the process for adding seats to the SC?Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            He ran his mouth for TWO HOURS and had NO IDEA that RBG had passed.
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            Probably not a big deal but why couldn’t he be informed of the news ASAP? They didn’t trust him with the information.0
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            So this is kind of interesting. McConnell wants someone immediately. I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate. He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies. Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham). But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.
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Trump will do anything to change the channel on covid. This is a gift.mrussel1 said:So this is kind of interesting. McConnell wants someone immediately. I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate. He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies. Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham). But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.
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Yes potentially. Although Kaylee Mccduiedjdnmed (sic) declined to provide a timeline on a nomination this morning. If they figured out their strategy, then "ASAP" would be the expected response.dignin said:
Trump will do anything to change the channel on covid. This is a gift.mrussel1 said:So this is kind of interesting. McConnell wants someone immediately. I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate. He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies. Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham). But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.
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            mrussel1 said:So this is kind of interesting. McConnell wants someone immediately. I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate. He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies. Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham). But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
so the three holdouts said not before the election. theres roughly 11 weeks between election and swearing in.
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Good point. Are any of those three on the judiciary committee? It could stop dead right there. But again, I think that’s a win for Trump personally. Would he nominate someone if he doesn’t have the votes in committee or the body locked down? That gives him cover to not do it and make it an issue.mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:So this is kind of interesting. McConnell wants someone immediately. I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate. He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies. Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham). But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
so the three holdouts said not before the election. theres roughly 11 weeks between election and swearing in.Regarding your 11 weeks comment, lines were four hours to vote here in a Virginia. The die is cast. Wonder how many other states are the same?0 - 
            mrussel1 said:
Good point. Are any of those three on the judiciary committee? It could stop dead right there. But again, I think that’s a win for Trump personally. Would he nominate someone if he doesn’t have the votes in committee or the body locked down? That gives him cover to not do it and make it an issue.mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:So this is kind of interesting. McConnell wants someone immediately. I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate. He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies. Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham). But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
so the three holdouts said not before the election. theres roughly 11 weeks between election and swearing in.Regarding your 11 weeks comment, lines were four hours to vote here in a Virginia. The die is cast. Wonder how many other states are the same?
the point is if mitch loses the senate and trump the office, they could slam one through in that 11 weeks.
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            how about this scenario. trump nominates either cruz or cotton. they cant vote on their own nomination. instead of abstaining the 3 vote them down siding with Ds. thats a slim majority right there.if its cruz just how many friends has he made this term? will those in gop want to give that ratfaced douchecanoe a lifetime job?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Oh right, I misread your post. Great point. So no upside to push a vote before the election.mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:
Good point. Are any of those three on the judiciary committee? It could stop dead right there. But again, I think that’s a win for Trump personally. Would he nominate someone if he doesn’t have the votes in committee or the body locked down? That gives him cover to not do it and make it an issue.mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:So this is kind of interesting. McConnell wants someone immediately. I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate. He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies. Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham). But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
so the three holdouts said not before the election. theres roughly 11 weeks between election and swearing in.Regarding your 11 weeks comment, lines were four hours to vote here in a Virginia. The die is cast. Wonder how many other states are the same?
the point is if mitch loses the senate and trump the office, they could slam one through in that 11 weeks.0 - 
            Have to kill the filibuster and expand the SCOTUS by 2. Imperative.0
 
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