Donald Trump

OnWis97

mace1229 said:

The left should just echo what happened 4 years ago and remind them they should a SCOTUS shouldn’t be confirmed in an election year and let the voters decide who they want. Don’t think the right will follow their own rules from 4 years ago, but that’s what the left should be doing.

Yes, yes, Mitch said we should let the people decide...but it doesn't apply here. The hypocrisy doesn't matter in a one-party system. It's Mitch's country..

OnWis97

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

The left should just echo what happened 4 years ago and remind them they should a SCOTUS shouldn’t be confirmed in an election year and let the voters decide who they want. Don’t think the right will follow their own rules from 4 years ago, but that’s what the left should be doing.

I think it was Graham who said a few months ago that he actually thought they should wait if it came up.  We shall see.

Either way, this is somewhat of an October surprise.  It makes the SCOTUS front and center in the debates, bringing 2nd A, abortion and Obamacare as issues that will be discussed with more intensity than expected. 

If was was Graham, it'll be fun to watch him do an about-face when Trump pulls out a Milk Bone for him.

static111

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

The left should just echo what happened 4 years ago and remind them they should a SCOTUS shouldn’t be confirmed in an election year and let the voters decide who they want. Don’t think the right will follow their own rules from 4 years ago, but that’s what the left should be doing.

Yes, yes, Mitch said we should let the people decide...but it doesn't apply here. The hypocrisy doesn't matter in a one-party system. It's Mitch's country..

Mitch already released a statement that he will bring Trumps nominee to a vote and said its different than blocking Obama in an election year because the American people have spoken by electing a senate majority to help the agenda of president trump... sick

static111

Stay classy Kentucky. https://www.republicanleader.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/mcconnell-statement-on-the-passing-of-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg

bootleg

static111 said:

OnWis97 said:

mace1229 said:

The left should just echo what happened 4 years ago and remind them they should a SCOTUS shouldn’t be confirmed in an election year and let the voters decide who they want. Don’t think the right will follow their own rules from 4 years ago, but that’s what the left should be doing.

Yes, yes, Mitch said we should let the people decide...but it doesn't apply here. The hypocrisy doesn't matter in a one-party system. It's Mitch's country..

Mitch already released a statement that he will bring Trumps nominee to a vote and said its different than blocking Obama in an election year because the American people have spoken by electing a senate majority to help the agenda of president trump... sick

Of course he did because they don’t give a fuck about hypocrisy.  Dems will cry foul all they want but that won’t get them anywhere.  The only option is to play even harder.  This of course will probably require Biden to win the election and dems take back senate. It if that does happen then you change the rules.  Add seats to the Supreme Court and fill it with 5 super progressives.  Of course you normally wouldn’t want to do something so drastic because when the other side regains power they could potentially do the same thing, but if the last 4 years have taught us anything it’s they don’t give two shits about norms or fairness.

HughFreakingDillon

what's the process for adding seats to the SC?

cutz

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1307165015279988739

ikiT

He ran his mouth for TWO HOURS and had NO IDEA that RBG had passed.  

mace1229

ikiT said:

He ran his mouth for TWO HOURS and had NO IDEA that RBG had passed.  

What’s the big deal about that? Didn’t he take the stage about the time this became public, so how would he know unless someone interrupted him to tell him?

DewieCox

Probably not a big deal but why couldn’t he be informed of the news ASAP? They didn’t trust him with the information. 

mrussel1

DewieCox said:

Probably not a big deal but why couldn’t he be informed of the news ASAP? They didn’t trust him with the information. 

Dude.. do you think Ed stops in the middle of a show to talk about Cubs/Cards scores he just heard about?  Oh wait...he does.  Carry on...

mrussel1

So this is kind of interesting.  McConnell wants someone immediately.  I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate.  He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies.  Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham).  But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.  
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  

dignin

mrussel1 said:

So this is kind of interesting.  McConnell wants someone immediately.  I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate.  He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies.  Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham).  But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.  
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  

Trump will do anything to change the channel on covid. This is a gift.

mrussel1

dignin said:

mrussel1 said:

So this is kind of interesting.  McConnell wants someone immediately.  I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate.  He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies.  Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham).  But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.  
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  

Trump will do anything to change the channel on covid. This is a gift.

Yes potentially.  Although Kaylee Mccduiedjdnmed (sic) declined to provide a timeline on a nomination this morning.  If they figured out their strategy, then "ASAP" would be the expected response. 

mickeyrat

mrussel1 said:

So this is kind of interesting.  McConnell wants someone immediately.  I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate.  He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies.  Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham).  But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.  
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  

so the three holdouts said not before the election. theres roughly 11 weeks between election and swearing in.

mrussel1

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

So this is kind of interesting.  McConnell wants someone immediately.  I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate.  He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies.  Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham).  But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.  
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  

so the three holdouts said not before the election. theres roughly 11 weeks between election and swearing in.

Good point.  Are any of those three on the judiciary committee?  It could stop dead right there.  But again, I think that’s a win for Trump personally.  Would he nominate someone if he doesn’t have the votes in committee or the body locked down?  That gives him cover to not do it and make it an issue.  

Regarding your 11 weeks comment, lines were four hours to vote here in a Virginia.  The die is cast. Wonder how many other states are the same?

mickeyrat

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

So this is kind of interesting.  McConnell wants someone immediately.  I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate.  He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies.  Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham).  But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.  
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  

so the three holdouts said not before the election. theres roughly 11 weeks between election and swearing in.

Good point.  Are any of those three on the judiciary committee?  It could stop dead right there.  But again, I think that’s a win for Trump personally.  Would he nominate someone if he doesn’t have the votes in committee or the body locked down?  That gives him cover to not do it and make it an issue.  

Regarding your 11 weeks comment, lines were four hours to vote here in a Virginia.  The die is cast. Wonder how many other states are the same?

the point is if mitch loses the senate and trump the office, they could slam one through in that 11 weeks.

mickeyrat

how about this scenario. trump nominates either cruz or cotton. they cant vote on their own nomination. instead of abstaining the 3 vote them down siding with Ds. thats a slim majority right there.

if its cruz just how many friends has he made this term? will those in gop want to give that ratfaced douchecanoe a lifetime job?

mrussel1

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

So this is kind of interesting.  McConnell wants someone immediately.  I still believe that..Trump being Trump will have the instinct to not bring up a candidate.  He doesn't care about abortion, or gay rights really... He cares about his election way more than policies.  Trump has no leverage on the senate I don't think (except for whatever he has on Graham).  But you know McConnell fears losing the majority and certainly he think they'll lose the executive office so they will want a hearing now.  
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  

so the three holdouts said not before the election. theres roughly 11 weeks between election and swearing in.

Good point.  Are any of those three on the judiciary committee?  It could stop dead right there.  But again, I think that’s a win for Trump personally.  Would he nominate someone if he doesn’t have the votes in committee or the body locked down?  That gives him cover to not do it and make it an issue.  

Regarding your 11 weeks comment, lines were four hours to vote here in a Virginia.  The die is cast. Wonder how many other states are the same?

the point is if mitch loses the senate and trump the office, they could slam one through in that 11 weeks.

Oh right,  I misread your post.  Great point.  So no upside to push a vote before the election.  

mrussel1

Have to kill the filibuster and expand the SCOTUS by 2. Imperative.