Riots/Looting/Violence and general post-George Floyd madness

bbiggs said:

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dignin said:

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dignin said:

bbiggs said:

^ Beating up innocent, elderly business owners while destructing cities is all part of the process for necessary change.  Didn’t you know? 

In case this needs to be said, yes, I’m being sarcastic. 

You're not going to find anyone here who thinks that okay, so why the strawman?

Looting, burning buildings and destructing is condoned and rationalized all the time here.  

I missed the ones about beating up 70 year olds. Maybe point me to those ones, the ones you were making reference too.

Well, maybe if you read my comment, you'd understand that I didn't say anything about "finding anyone here who thinks that's okay."  The point is that if necessary change is the objective, looting, burning, destructing and beating is not the way to accomplish it.  They all go hand in hand these days.

Maybe some people can understand but not condone the looting and destruction of property but not the assault on an elderly man (like you have obviously implied as a cheap shot). The two don't have to go hand in hand.  

dignin said:

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bbiggs said:

dignin said:

bbiggs said:

dignin said:

bbiggs said:

^ Beating up innocent, elderly business owners while destructing cities is all part of the process for necessary change.  Didn’t you know? 

In case this needs to be said, yes, I’m being sarcastic. 

You're not going to find anyone here who thinks that okay, so why the strawman?

Looting, burning buildings and destructing is condoned and rationalized all the time here.  

I missed the ones about beating up 70 year olds. Maybe point me to those ones, the ones you were making reference too.

Well, maybe if you read my comment, you'd understand that I didn't say anything about "finding anyone here who thinks that's okay."  The point is that if necessary change is the objective, looting, burning, destructing and beating is not the way to accomplish it.  They all go hand in hand these days.

Maybe some people can understand but not condone the looting and destruction of property but not the assault on an elderly man (like you have obviously implied as a cheap shot). The two don't have to go hand in hand.  

I, for one, think that anyone that condones looting, destruction of property, or assaulting innocents is an asshat deplorable.

dankind said:

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dignin said:

bbiggs said:

dignin said:

bbiggs said:

dignin said:

bbiggs said:

^ Beating up innocent, elderly business owners while destructing cities is all part of the process for necessary change.  Didn’t you know? 

In case this needs to be said, yes, I’m being sarcastic. 

You're not going to find anyone here who thinks that okay, so why the strawman?

Looting, burning buildings and destructing is condoned and rationalized all the time here.  

I missed the ones about beating up 70 year olds. Maybe point me to those ones, the ones you were making reference too.

Well, maybe if you read my comment, you'd understand that I didn't say anything about "finding anyone here who thinks that's okay."  The point is that if necessary change is the objective, looting, burning, destructing and beating is not the way to accomplish it.  They all go hand in hand these days.

Maybe some people can understand but not condone the looting and destruction of property but not the assault on an elderly man (like you have obviously implied as a cheap shot). The two don't have to go hand in hand.  

You’re wasting your time. Someone already posted something to the effect of vandals are usually the same people as assaulters. 

As a former vandal who ran with a whole crew of vandals, we never assaulted anyone. We were assaulted by the cops a few times, though, some of us more than others. Some of us still. 

I wasn’t that someone that posted that though. But I would agree that it is wasting time to make me think looters and vandals are good guys just because they don’t beat people. 

https://youtu.be/mIxyNgEF6wU

Mostly peaceful 

Glorified KC said:

Change the system and you won’t see the looting.  Same shit different year, wait now it’s a different month.  Then what, different week?  Stop shooting and/or killing unarmed black men.  #blacklivesmatter

Yes, the dealership owner and furniture store owner should all stop killing people.

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mace1229 said:

Glorified KC said:

Change the system and you won’t see the looting.  Same shit different year, wait now it’s a different month.  Then what, different week?  Stop shooting and/or killing unarmed black men.  #blacklivesmatter

Yes, the dealership owner and furniture store owner should all stop killing people.

Looting is a by-product of a systemic problem.  So what in the hell is anyone in this thread going to do about looting?  Bring attention to it?  Right.  That will stop it.

The change needs to keep the root cause from happening.  It’s tragic innocent people are affected by looters with bad intentions.  The looters don’t show up without a reason to protest.  Try getting upset at the system and looking for another solution toward senseless violence of police on black lives.

It’s a shame that people are looting, rioting, burning down buildings and beating people unconscious under the guise of a protest.

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Glorified KC said:

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Glorified KC said:

Change the system and you won’t see the looting.  Same shit different year, wait now it’s a different month.  Then what, different week?  Stop shooting and/or killing unarmed black men.  #blacklivesmatter

Yes, the dealership owner and furniture store owner should all stop killing people.

Looting is a by-product of a systemic problem.  So what in the hell is anyone in this thread going to do about looting?  Bring attention to it?  Right.  That will stop it.

The change needs to keep the root cause from happening.  It’s tragic innocent people are affected by looters with bad intentions.  The looters don’t show up without a reason to protest.  Try getting upset at the system and looking for another solution toward senseless violence of police on black lives.

It’s a shame that people are looting, rioting, burning down buildings and beating people unconscious under the guise of a protest.

I don’t disagree, but why call it out?  What difference does it make?

mace1229 said:

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Glorified KC said:

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Glorified KC said:

mace1229 said:

Glorified KC said:

Change the system and you won’t see the looting.  Same shit different year, wait now it’s a different month.  Then what, different week?  Stop shooting and/or killing unarmed black men.  #blacklivesmatter

Yes, the dealership owner and furniture store owner should all stop killing people.

Looting is a by-product of a systemic problem.  So what in the hell is anyone in this thread going to do about looting?  Bring attention to it?  Right.  That will stop it.

The change needs to keep the root cause from happening.  It’s tragic innocent people are affected by looters with bad intentions.  The looters don’t show up without a reason to protest.  Try getting upset at the system and looking for another solution toward senseless violence of police on black lives.

It’s a shame that people are looting, rioting, burning down buildings and beating people unconscious under the guise of a protest.

I don’t disagree, but why call it out?  What difference does it make?

So we’re supposed to be silent on things we disagree with?

And I called it out (or responded to others that did) because it came across as if you condone that behavior by saying “change the system and you won’t see looting.” But it looks like you don’t now.

But definitely call it out, the violent protestors and rioters are worse than the system they are pretending to protest.

I don’t condone looting, but if not for the system they wouldn’t be compelled to protest or riot.  My first interest is the end of people being approached differently based on the way they look.  More often than not, those issues have festered for decades and even centuries to the point where they boil over and more innocent people are victimized.  I don’t want to see any victims, but in my opinion the system is the issue because it hasn’t changed much since I can remember the LA riots in 1992.  Asking questions in your city about what can be looked at differently so your town doesn’t become another Kenosha, Minneapolis, Ferguson, Baltimore, Los Angeles is what I believe needs to be called out.