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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,260
    I think it was a mistake to say initially that masks did not help.   It was a blatant lie.  I understand why at the time but it led to skepticism later and doubt that they know what they are talking about.  It didn't help that later Trump was a jackass about masks.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,474

  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,835
    You are all such kind people to try and show a blind person the light.

    Talk radio is full of smart people, quoting facts.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    Thanks for sharing what dreams.
     Sorry about the trouble you've been through.
    Society has never shut down for anything (sports, concerts, bars, beaches, restaurants or anything else before this.  Im no expert, I'm a truck driver.  Why now?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    Thanks for sharing what dreams.
     Sorry about the trouble you've been through.
    Society has never shut down for anything (sports, concerts, bars, beaches, restaurants or anything else before this.  Im no expert, I'm a truck driver.  Why now?
    To try and prevent the deaths of hundreds of thousands of our loved ones.
  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    My god. Deep level obtuse or trolling. 
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    edited July 2020
    RYME said:
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    pjl44 said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    We have a tuberculosis vaccine 
    And effective treatments. 
    Ohh.  And there has been no reason to politicize the yearly TB pandemic.  So even with effective treatments and a vaccine,
    X amount die from TB regardless.

    So how about getting info @ CDC for Covid19?
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
    Cases/day  (July rising)  
    Deaths/day (July slowing)
    Younger less vulnerable population getting infection on a large scale is what most epidemiologists look forward to = herd immunity.  Which usually occurs befour vaccines are achieved.


    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
    Excess deaths is an interesting piece of the pie.



    Your point being? Please enlighten us. 
    Why hit the quote button if you have nothing to say oftenreading?  Good one! Ya got me there.₩¥°¿¡^]<>~`§μ¬Г´·{}©|¤Ωθฯ€£ฯ§¿¿
    Wowie kazowie!! A big thumbs up to that one.

    It's generally accepted on this forum to quote someone when asking a question about their post. Thank you for the kudos, though. 
    Ok i will try two enlighten the enlightened about excess covid deaths.
    There are quite a few articles about this, but I'm not going to waste my time searching and pasting.
    *So the total corona virus death toll in the US is updated and posted on the CDC website for all to see daily. State-by-state county by county.
    As the CDC combs through all of te covid19 deaths, they are finding that a sizeable percentage of covid19 blamed deaths are actually caused by other things like accidents, or  entirely unrelated health issues,   
    For example a 40 year old man is on his roof  cleaning the gutters out.  Stumbles and falls off his roof to the ground and dies on impact.
    The man died from neck injuries, but also was found to be positive for Coronavirus in his system, didnt even know he had it. A-Symptomatic they are and have been adding deaths like that to the coronavirus death toll.  Drunk driving crashes car rolls 3 times dead driver.  Tests possitive for Coronavirus add to coronavirus death toll.  And a whole host of other health problems that cause fatalities.
     I saw one estimate, nearly 30 percent of Corona virus deaths are due to other unfortunate events.  Overtime CDC will revise their numbers.
    Having said all that, I don't pretend that it isn't a problem, 
    I believe that the coronavirus is nothing to sneeze at.  
    Provide a reputable source for this roof falling and car accident that was attributed to covid. Also provide a source for the 30% overstated deaths by the CDC. 
    I listen to a lot of news talk radio stations. National and local radio programs. 
    The (30% overstated estimate) I heard about was at the top or bottom of the hour news cast a few weeks ago.  I heard that on Newstalk 1130 WISN  Milwaukee.
    Falling off of roof, and car accident were examples given. The cdc didn't say that.  But those types of things is what the excess deaths @ the cdc take into account.
    And if that's not good enough for you fuck it.

    Talk radio....


    The reason 40% remain willfully ignorant.

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    dignin said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    Thanks for sharing what dreams.
     Sorry about the trouble you've been through.
    Society has never shut down for anything (sports, concerts, bars, beaches, restaurants or anything else before this.  Im no expert, I'm a truck driver.  Why now?
    To try and prevent the deaths of hundreds of thousands of our loved ones.
    A common sense approach? It can’t be that simple...can it?

    Man, it’s like bizarro world here sometimes.

    (also, did we not mostly shut down in 1918?)
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Smellyman said:

    Crazy!  He doesn't wear a mask, pulls gun on store keep, ends up in jail where the COVID risk is even greater.  That's just plain crazy!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Smellyman said:
    Just another “responsible” gun owner being “responsible.”
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,835
    He's trolling.  

    Just ignore.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    brianlux said:
    Wait a minute... WHAT???


    Reporter On Catholic Church Getting Over $1 Billion In Coronavirus Aid

    "...today we are learning, courtesy of The Associated Press, that the U.S. Roman Catholic Church managed to secure billions of dollars in loans from that rescue package through the Paycheck Protection Program. Reporter Michael Rezendes has been reporting on the Catholic Church for a long time. He is one of the reporters who has been crunching these numbers and trying to track where that money is going."

    "... we were able to identify between $1.4 billion and as much as $3.5 billion."



    An interesting aspect of that interview is, at the end, the reporter acknowledging that all religious organizations were eligible for PPP loans but, even though the data is available, he chose only to highlight the Catholic church.

    I'm not Catholic and have an issue with the religious exemption he references, but the framing is pretty lame.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    Thanks for sharing what dreams.
     Sorry about the trouble you've been through.
    Society has never shut down for anything (sports, concerts, bars, beaches, restaurants or anything else before this.  Im no expert, I'm a truck driver.  Why now?
    Because this virus is highly contagious, pretty deadly, and there is currently no vaccine or silver bullet treatment.

    Consider that even with these highly oppressive lockdowns, we've still seen 3.3 million cases and 137,000 deaths here in the U.S. 

    In my lifetime I've never seen anything spread like this. SARS...H1N1...not even close.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,703
    https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1282299993194463237?s=21
    This virus is here to stay and this administration is going to just let it play out! I guess the deaths will just keep happening, before we know it flu season will be here. 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,969


    AC that does not bring outside air seems to be a major factor with why covid his specifically targeting CA TX AZ FL.


    Starting to think this is a much bigger factor than masks and six feet.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    edited July 2020


    AC that does not bring outside air seems to be a major factor with why covid his specifically targeting CA TX AZ FL.


    Starting to think this is a much bigger factor than masks and six feet.
    For sure. Check out this study and especially the diagram. They followed how diners who were specifically downwind wound up getting infected.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/7/20-0764_article
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Keep on trucking, Ryme. Good luck. 
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    I had to go back a few pages to find the original TB reference to respond to the post. I caught TB while I was a senior in college. I found out when I went to the public health department for an antibody skin test, which I had to have before I could get a job as a substitute teacher.

    You know what happened? Within ONE DAY of my testing positive, a contact tracer arrived at my house at dinner time, asked me to provide the names and phone numbers of every person I had been in close contact with for the past six months, requested every member of my close circle to also be tested (they all complied). Then for six months while I was in treatment, I had to submit a spit sample on a regular basis to my doctor, so he could report to the health department that I was not a contagious threat to the public. Almost 30 years later, I STILL have to submit a negative chest X-ray anytime I accept employment in a different school division, which I had to do again last summer. That's what we do with TB, a disease that's hardly a threat here in America, then or now -- because we fight to keep case numbers at an insignificant low.

    Now let's jump to CoVid.  I'm pretty sure that my locality is doing next to nothing with contact tracing with CoVid, though the CDC declared my zip code a hot spot on June 20 with a significant portion of the cases made up of Latinx people. About 20-25% (!!!!!) of the people tested in my locality's three zip codes are positive. The news report indicated the CDC would be going door to door trying to find cases and to assess local needs. And yet, I haven't seen anybody in my neighborhood, haven't received any phone calls, haven't received any mail from public officials, and it's been almost a month since this CDC announcement was made. I only found the announcement yesterday because I Googled "hot spot" with my city name, just trying to get a feel for things around here because the silence from my local officials on case numbers has been disconcerting. 

    If we were doing with CoVid what we do with TB, we would all be so very blessed right now.
    Thanks for sharing what dreams.
     Sorry about the trouble you've been through.
    Society has never shut down for anything (sports, concerts, bars, beaches, restaurants or anything else before this.  Im no expert, I'm a truck driver.  Why now?
    No reason man!! It’s all a hoax and a conspiracy to take down the best president who has ever presidented. Join a revolution so crazy that only billionaires and the party  that supports them were smart enough to reveal it. 
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