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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,699
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2020
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    Post edited by RYME on
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    RYME said:
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    We have a tuberculosis vaccine 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    The vast majority of TB deaths are in developing countries. In the US, we see about 500 deaths annually.

    If there is a covid vaccine as effective and widely available as TB, you will indeed see life go back to normal.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    RYME said:
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    Fauci also said they downplayed masks to prevent a shortage for health care workers. 

    If surgeons wear masks top prevent themselves from spreading germs,  doesn't common sense tell you they reduce risk?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    pjl44 said:
    RYME said:
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    We have a tuberculosis vaccine 
    That's only a tiny difference in comparison.  
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    pjl44 said:
    The vast majority of TB deaths are in developing countries. In the US, we see about 500 deaths annually.

    If there is a covid vaccine as effective and widely available as TB, you will indeed see life go back to normal.
    It is painful this has to be explained to people. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,413
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    brianlux said:
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    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    Wow hot topic!
    If you count the tail, how many legs does a dog have?
    Don't you have some mindless propaganda to post?

    Nope i guess mindless people like you cant even smile or think anything through.
    This was an insight check.  And you already failed mrussel1.  And it has everything do do with the coronavirus Madness.

    Explain how the Coronavirus Madness has to do with even if you called a dogs tail a leg it still is not a leg.... 
    2+2 still = 4 not 5.
    This is not even considered to be even an epidemic anymore.  Follow the sience.

    Whoa, RYME!  Dog tails have always been around in epidemic proportions!.  I almost had an eye put out buy a whipping dog tail once!

    You were talking about dog tails, not COVID-19, right?  Say, "Yes".  Please say, "Yes"!
    Yes dog tails not Covid.
    It was suppose to be a little Friday fun.
    And I got three types of responses.
    1.  The expected smear "dont you have some mindless propaganda to post?"
    2. People who answered it and asked what it had to do with anything.
    3. Yourself  Brian who decided to have a little fun with it.
    Where are you trying to have fun? You are downplaying Covid and posting videos that are downplaying it as well implying those that are conforming to the government and being ok with the "new normal" are sheep. To be honest I do not find anything fun or funny about anything you posted last night but hey maybe I failed the insight test too. 
    Funny?  The dog tail thing was supposed to be just a tad bit of fun not produce a giant belly laugh. Like Brian said. You can pull your hair out, cry, or have a little fun sometimes.  Its healthy.
    There is always more going on than meets the eye.  While there is the seriousness of covid-19 and it has been taken very seriously.
    I think we had Navy hospital ships one on each coast turns out they wern't needed.  Built pop-up hospitals. Army Corps of Engineers very very quickly for overflow.(which wern't really needed as it turned out)  I noticed, some of you criticized Mike Lindell (the Pillow guy) for speaking at one of the daily task force briefings early on.  The successful pillow company has been producing massive numbers of face masks for hospitals and YES donating them to hospitals/ nursing homes and Clinics Nationwide.  Stock piles of ventilators have been produced.  The virus itself has been taken very seriously.
    But, there is a TON of political maneuvering going on as well.  If the economy rebounds really well and people get back to work, school & some normalcy by fall everybody knows that is a slam dunk for Trump.  Of course the democrates & lefties know that & dont want that to happen. Lefties would love another shut down, schools to remain closed through fall, and will do everything in their power to keep as much shut down as possible. 
    Just a guess, November 4th covid-19 will still be on going, but old news.



    You are using the dog tail question to downplay Corona Virus though. You then posted a video downplaying Corona Virus. Also to imply that lefties want the virus to stay around to win an election is ridiculous. It is almost like you are not looking at the numbers in your country and what is happening compared to most of the rest of the world and want this to be a political battle. 
    What’s 131,000+ deaths? We have an economy to open to get Team Trump Treason re-elected.
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  • nicknyr15
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    Very proud of fellow NYers. Lowest numbers since March. We got hit so hard that everyone knew somebody who was affected by this, which I think forced everyone to take it seriously. Nobody here wants to go back to how it was in March and April. I can only hope that people coming here from states like Florida and California won’t cause a big spike. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    pjl44 said:
    RYME said:
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    We have a tuberculosis vaccine 
    And effective treatments. 
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    The arguments made against this are so fucking dumb.
    And "lefties would love another shut down" is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I have read in a while.  Nobody wants a shut down.  Everyone (should) wants to see the most well calculated course of action taken to save lives, slow the spread, and keep things going 

    Politicizing a pandemic is one of the worst things this idiot in Chief has done.  If he would have done what was responsible it would not be the case and our fight against it would be a unification thing instead of a division thing.


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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    “Absolutely nothing’s changed.”

    Fuckin A. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,471
    Ignorant behavior is not just an American thing....


  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    Fauci also said they downplayed masks to prevent a shortage for health care workers. 

    If surgeons wear masks top prevent themselves from spreading germs,  doesn't common sense tell you they reduce risk?
    Not only common sense, but also evidence. Didn’t someone just say “follow the science” (or something close to that). 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,385
    RYME said:
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    Where to start with this...
    1) Did you know that tuberculosis had 10,000 cases in the United States in 2018, with an incredibly low mortality rate?
    2) Did you know that there's a WHO plan called "End TB"? It provides operational guidelines to countries to do their part to eliminate the disease (https://www.who.int/tb/strategy/en/)
    3) Have you seen the way CoVID-19 is producing nearly as many fatalities as TB now, even in spite of the significant mitigation efforts, and also independent of economic success to some degree (as in, unlike TB, it's affecting countries like the UK and US)? If your mention of TB is meant to be instructive and not deflective, it'd be wise to mention the correlation between wealth and disease spread. Which leads to the next point...
    4) Did you know that the critical indicators associated with TB are predominantly seen in developing nations? Since you care so much, I do hope you're donating to help these nations become self-sufficient. By and large, they are feeling the TB burden - not you or I in cushy North America. It would also be wise to apply these lessons to ourselves in this CoVID-19 context so we don't have "Pay to live" existences. 





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  • brianlux
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    I'm too at risk for coronavirus to be able to work at the bookstore any more but I keep up with what's going on there.  We have a friend who comes in and works part-time and she told us a guy came in the store without a mask.  She offered him one to wear and he said, "I'm an American!  I don't need to wear a mask"!  She stood her ground and told him he couldn't come in the store.  Good woman! 

    The question I have is, what on earth does being an American have to do with it?  What a strange thing to say!
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  • Gern Blansten
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    F Me In The Brain said:
    The arguments made against this are so fucking dumb.
    And "lefties would love another shut down" is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I have read in a while.  Nobody wants a shut down.  Everyone (should) wants to see the most well calculated course of action taken to save lives, slow the spread, and keep things going 

    Politicizing a pandemic is one of the worst things this idiot in Chief has done.  If he would have done what was responsible it would not be the case and our fight against it would be a unification thing instead of a division thing.


    It's unbelievable.

    I was listening to a Dr on the news last night say that we should have stayed on lockdown (clearly) for a few months longer.  

    The lack of leadership here is outrageous.
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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2020
    oftenreading said:
    pjl44 said:
    RYME said:
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    We have a tuberculosis vaccine 
    And effective treatments. 
    Ohh.  And there has been no reason to politicize the yearly TB pandemic.  So even with effective treatments and a vaccine,
    X amount die from TB regardless.

    So how about getting info @ CDC for Covid19?
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
    Cases/day  (July rising)  
    Deaths/day (July slowing)
    Younger less vulnerable population getting infection on a large scale is what most epidemiologists look forward to = herd immunity.  Which usually occurs befour vaccines are achieved.


    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
    Excess deaths is an interesting piece of the pie.


    Post edited by RYME on
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    RYME said:
    oftenreading said:
    pjl44 said:
    RYME said:
    josevolution said:
    RYME said:
    Its to bad that so many follow the shiny object.
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCZD4UnnNSp/
    Really you don’t believe that there’s an out of control virus killing hundreds every day? Damn 
    Did you know that tuberculosis is a pandemic every year? 1.5 million dead/year.
    https://www.tballiance.org/why-new-tb-drugs/global-pandemic
    Scroll down and read a little from the CDC.
    Nobody wore masks until covid19.
    Now out of respect I wear a mask at the grocery store, hardware store whatever getting a haircut.  Or in a place where there's a condensed group of people.
    But Dr. Anthony Fauci said this back in March.
    https://youtu.be/PRa6t_e7dgI
    There is a happy medium between overhyping and downplaying this stuff.
    We have a tuberculosis vaccine 
    And effective treatments. 
    Ohh.  And there has been no reason to politicize the yearly TB pandemic.  So even with effective treatments and a vaccine,
    X amount die from TB regardless.

    So how about getting info @ CDC for Covid19?
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html
    Cases/day  (July rising)  
    Deaths/day (July slowing)
    Younger less vulnerable population getting infection on a large scale is what most epidemiologists look forward to = herd immunity.  Which usually occurs befour vaccines are achieved.


    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
    Excess deaths is an interesting piece of the pie.


    1. Deaths are a lagging data element, not a leading one.  Spikes in cases will lead to spikes in deaths.  Again, common sense.
    2. Data indicates younger people are spreading this current wave.  They will have a lower fatality rate, if it's true that the median age of this wave is lower.  

    Neither of these prove what you said before that "it's not even considered an epidemic anymore".  Can you please provide some empirical evidence of a health organization that has made that statement for the US?
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