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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    edited July 2020
    Congrats to Donald Trump for galvanizing the nation behind his key campaign issue of both 2016 and 2018, immigration. Slight problem for Trump, though, as a plurality of country now is in favor of MORE immigration instead of less. Appears as if this is the first time that has ever happened. So...whoopsies?


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  • cutz
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    Trumps Boy(HOPE this is not the wrong thread but not sure where to Post) 

     https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8478527/Vladimir-Putin-hours-away-seizing-power-2036.html

    Vladimir Putin is declared the winner of referendum five hours BEFORE polls close and will seize power until 2036 after 73% back him in 'rigged'vote

  • The Juggler
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    mrussel1 said:
    I'm seeing bs about "Biden Ukraine tapes" from right wingers.  It's funny because the shit coming out was already public knowledge yet they are trying to make it sound new.  

    They are desperate as hell to knock Biden's gap down.
    Yep, and impeaching Trump helps to inoculate Biden on that front too.  Independents and center right people know that Trump was inventing dirt.  they'll keep trying to China, but you'll see Trump's praise of Xi on ads soon enough.  And at the end of the day, Trump failed to protect the US from the Chinese virus.  Why should he get another chance?
    Hopefully the SDNY is still working the Guilliani case...
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    trump TODAY said he still believe that covid is going to disappear and that we will have a vaccine by the end if the year. sigh...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,559
    trump TODAY said he still believe that covid is going to disappear and that we will have a vaccine by the end if the year. sigh...
    Unreal it’s almost like everything he says/does doesn’t even faze me anymore! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,402
    Look familiar?
    .......


  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Is that an official trump logo or someone made it? 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,402
    edited July 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    Is that an official trump logo or someone made it? 
    Official from the campaign website...




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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,039
    wow. they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,357
    its on a t shirt. worn by a black model....
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    jesus

    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,402
    ikiT said:
    jesus

    You rang?

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,061
    What are they hiding?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/justices-keep-hold-on-secret-russia-investigation-material/ar-BB16fX2R?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds

    Because, I thought, 

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”
    “No quid pro quo.”
    “Imminent threat.”
    I thought he was Israeli.”

    Follow the damn money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Way to brag about the economy as covid cases soar but that Team Trump Treason sure is doing a great job. From the White House propaganda email:

    Blowout: The U.S. Economy Added 4.8 Million Jobs in June
    “The economy has added around 7.3 million jobs in the past two months. The increase in the ranks of employed workers shows that companies ramped up hiring as the economy reopened and consumers came back to stores, restaurants, and other businesses that had been shuttered,” John Carney writes for Breitbart.
     
    “The Trump administration’s aid programs appear to be working.”


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  • Lerxst1992
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    Way to brag about the economy as covid cases soar but that Team Trump Treason sure is doing a great job. From the White House propaganda email:

    Blowout: The U.S. Economy Added 4.8 Million Jobs in June
    “The economy has added around 7.3 million jobs in the past two months. The increase in the ranks of employed workers shows that companies ramped up hiring as the economy reopened and consumers came back to stores, restaurants, and other businesses that had been shuttered,” John Carney writes for Breitbart.
     
    “The Trump administration’s aid programs appear to be working.”




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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Way to brag about the economy as covid cases soar but that Team Trump Treason sure is doing a great job. From the White House propaganda email:

    Blowout: The U.S. Economy Added 4.8 Million Jobs in June
    “The economy has added around 7.3 million jobs in the past two months. The increase in the ranks of employed workers shows that companies ramped up hiring as the economy reopened and consumers came back to stores, restaurants, and other businesses that had been shuttered,” John Carney writes for Breitbart.
     
    “The Trump administration’s aid programs appear to be working.”




    reelection guaranteed
    Not with graphs like these:

    July 2, 2020 at 9:39 a.m. EDT
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    In June the U.S. economy added 4.8 million payroll jobs, which is of course great news for those newly hired. Unfortunately, it means diddly squat for those still out of work.

    And many, many millions more Americans remain in that unhappy situation.

    To help you visualize just how deep the U.S. job-market hole remains, once again I bring you the Scariest Jobs Chart You’ll See All Day. It plots the trajectory of job changes in this recession alongside those from previous downturns (and subsequent recoveries).

    How this recession compares to previous ones

    Percent change in employment since most recent peak.

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    Months since the last employment peak

    Note: Because employment is a lagging indicator, the dates for these payroll employment trends are not exactly synchronized with the National Bureau of Economic Research’s official business cycle dates.

    Sources: Bureau of Labor Statistics,

    via Haver Analytics

    THE WASHINGTON POST

    How this recession compares to previous ones

    Percent change in employment since most recent peak.

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    Months since the last employment peak

    Note: Because employment is a lagging indicator, the dates for these payroll employment trends are not exactly synchronized with the National Bureau of Economic Research’s official business cycle dates.

    Sources: Bureau of Labor Statistics, via Haver Analytics

    THE WASHINGTON POST

    How this recession compares to previous ones

    Percent change in employment since most recent peak.

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    Months since the last employment peak

    Note: Because employment is a lagging indicator, the dates for these payroll employment trends are not exactly synchronized with the National Bureau of Economic Research’s official business cycle dates.

    Sources: Bureau of Labor Statistics, via Haver Analytics

    THE WASHINGTON POST

    How this recession compares to previous ones

    Percent change in employment since most recent peak.

    0

    Other post-

    World War II

    recessions

    Great Recession

    and subsequent

    recovery

    -5%

    Where we are now

    -10%

    -15%

    1

    10

    20

    30

    40

    50

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    70 months

    Months since the last employment peak

    Note: Because employment is a lagging indicator, the dates for these payroll employment trends are not exactly synchronized with the National Bureau of Economic Research’s official business cycle dates.

    Sources: Bureau of Labor Statistics, via Haver Analytics

    THE WASHINGTON POST

    The horizontal axis shows months since the most recent employment peak of a given business cycle. The teal line plots the Great Recession. Until recently, the depth, duration and sluggish recovery from the Great Recession had put all other postwar downturns to shame. Take a look at the red line, which represents the awful situation the country is now going through.

    Things are so much worse than even the Great Recession that the red line almost doesn’t fit on the same chart as the others. It starts with a near-vertical downward drop, followed by a short spike upward.

    Again, it is great that the hiring trend has, in fact, turned upward. But there are still 14.7 million, or about 10 percent, fewer payroll jobs than there were at the start of the pandemic recession. And as you can see, even if job growth continues at what President Trump calls “rocket ship” pace, the country still has a long way to go before reaching an acceptable altitude — that is, until U.S. payrolls are anywhere near pre-pandemic levels.

    There’s also reason to worry that our little “rocket ship” might slow down — or perhaps already has.

    Thursday’s jobs report reflects activity in mid-June. (The Bureau of Labor Statistics’ employer survey always covers the pay period that includes the 12th of the month.) In some senses, only a couple of weeks feels like ages ago.

    Since mid-June, confirmed coronavirus cases have surged, especially across the Sun Belt. Some states have halted or even reversed their reopening plans, especially in the industries that reported the greatest job gains at mid-June: Leisure and hospitality, which Thursday’s jobs report shows as adding 2.1 million positions in June, accounted for two-fifths of the overall gain in total payroll jobs. But Florida and Texas, for instance, once again shut down on-site bar drinking. On Wednesday, California’s governor directed 19 counties to shut down indoor family entertainment venues (bowling alleys, arcades, etc.) as well as indoor dining at restaurants. In the near term, this will hurt the industry’s business activity and hiring.

    There is also evidence that what matters more for economic activity than these government shutdown decrees is the virus itself — and consumers’ or workers’ fears of contracting it.

    A recent working paper from University of Chicago economists Austan Goolsbee and Chad Syverson used cellphone records data from SafeGraph on customer visits to more than 2.25 million individual businesses across 110 industries. They concluded that overall consumer traffic fell by 60 percentage points but that “legal restrictions explain only 7 percentage points of this. Individual choices were far more important and seem tied to fears of infection.”

    As such research suggests, recent metrics point to a slowing in economic activity that predates the latest shutdown orders. The initial jobless claims data, which were also updated Thursday morning, revealed that an additional 1.4 million people filed for benefits.

    Foot traffic to stores had picked up in May but seems to have plateaued, according to recent SafeGraph data.

    Consumer spending, as tracked by Chase, was picking up through the spring yet more recently seems to have dipped again.

    The same goes for trends in restaurant reservations, as measured by OpenTable.

    Other data, including from Homebase (which offers scheduling software to small businesses), suggests that small-business operations and employment were recovering in the spring but have also plateaued in recent weeks.

    “While cities like New York and San Francisco had lower troughs, they’ve steadily improved, while cities like Houston and Phoenix have plateaued or given back some of their early gains,” Homebase analysts said in a recent report. “These plateaus suggest we may have ~20% permanent closures on Main Street.”

    Federal Reserve officials have expressed concern that economic conditions could get much worse with a renewed spike in infections, according to meeting minutes released Wednesday. The path of the pandemic aside, other major economic risks loom on the horizon.

    In particular, a major fiscal time bomb is about to detonate.

    Enhanced unemployment benefits are scheduled to expire at the end of July, and Republicans have said that no way, no how will the program be renewed, even if unemployment remains in double digits. Some have expressed concerns that the enhanced benefit — a flat $600 federal top-up — might disincentivize work because some workers receive more in benefits than they earned in wages. But that design could be amended.

    Additionally, states and localities are going broke. Thanks to covid-19, their tax revenue has plummeted and their expenses have gone up. Lucy Dadayan of the Tax Policy Center estimates that the pandemic will reduce state revenue alone by $200 billion over fiscal 2020 and 2021. Governors (and mayors and other local officials) have pleaded for federal help. Unlike most states and municipalities, after all, the feds don’t have to worry about balanced budgets.

    While there is bipartisan support in Congress for providing state aid, it hasn’t happened yet. The Democratic-controlled House passed another stimulus bill that included funding for states, but Republican Senate leaders declined to take it up. They have said they don’t plan to finalize their own bill until the end of July. Perversely, the gains in Thursday’s jobs report might reduce pressure on lawmakers to pass this needed legislation.

    This week, however most states started a new fiscal year. Already, states and localities have laid off about 1.5 million employees since the pandemic began. Unless federal aid comes through soon, expect huge new public-sector layoffs and service cuts in the months ahead, followed by knock-on job losses in the private sector.

    That “scariest jobs chart" could well get scarier.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/02/us-job-market-is-still-very-bad-shape-just-wait-until-fiscal-time-bomb-goes-off/

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Apologies for the wonky graph posts.
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  • The Juggler
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    edited July 2020
    Monmouth has Biden up by 13%! Monmouth is always one of, if not the best pollsters out there.

    Even more interesting is that 50% of voters have already ruled out voting for Trump. That is unreal. Just resign already, Don.

    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_070220/

    “Half of all registered voters have ruled out backing Trump. Trump showed in 2016 that he can thread the needle, but these results suggest the president has even less room for error in 2020. He must convert some of those unlikely supporters if he is to win a second term,” said Patrick Murray, director of the independent Monmouth University Polling Institute.

    A key difference from four years ago is that fewer voters have a negative opinion of the Democratic nominee. Biden’s rating stands at 44% favorable and 44% unfavorable. It was 42%–49% in early June. Hillary Clinton’s rating in July 2016 was 34% favorable and 52% unfavorable. Trump currently has a negative 38% favorable and 55% unfavorable opinion. It was 38%–57% in early June. As a candidate four years ago, he held a 31% favorable and 53% unfavorable rating.

    Overall, 21% of all registered voters do not have a favorable opinion of either party’s nominee. Trump did well with this “double negative” group in 2016. The National Election Pool exit poll showed him ultimately winning their vote after Clinton held a small edge throughout the campaign. But he is getting swamped among these voters this time around. Biden leads by 55% to 21% among this group.

    “Four years ago, Clinton was the insider candidate who approximated an incumbent in many voters’ minds. There is no mistaking who wears that mantle this year. Trump’s problem is that voters who aren’t enamored with either candidate tend to go for change,” said Murray.

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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Even more interesting is that 50% of voters have already ruled out voting for Trump. That is unreal. Just resign already, Don.

    The last thing you want is for him to resign, for electoral reasons anyway. Of course a resignation would be good to be rid of him. But I'd wager a guess that at this point, Pence would have a better shot at winning in November than Trump. I don't think the polls are an endorsement of Biden or a condemnation of the GOP. I think it's just people being sick of Trump. So Pence might be a better nominee, if it came to that. I don't think Pence would win, but stranger things have happened. 
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  • Poncier
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    Pence would definitely have a better shot. At least comes across as a statesman and is far less divisive. He disguises his biases and hatred much better.
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