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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Smellyman said:
    brianlux said:
    People still think this virus is real? There hasn't been a colossal spike on deaths since terrorists and rioters took over 17 days ago. I was told we would all die if we had large gatherings. 

    I love being able to tell you told you so. Off to dabble in some marijuana.  Enjoy the world you created with fear mongering this thread brings a degree of joy every few weeks at least. 
    Amazing how all those scientist and doctors and disease experts from all over the world fooled everybody!

    The BIG question is:  How did they do that?
    The little know answer (which should be obvious):  They are all aliens.


    It's like the flat earthers.   you mean every government in the world got together and is making you believe the earth is round and not flat?  Why?


    I guess it must be Aliens too
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    i_lov_it said:
    hedonist said:
    i_lov_it said:
    hedonist said:
    i_lov_it said:
    i_lov_it said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    This whole scamdemic is becoming embarrassing now...just waiting for the government to admit it
    Congrats. Sounds like no one close to you has died from it. 
    Obviously what do you think 
    Yup, 113,998 dead Americans thus far sounds like a scamdemic to me. 
    Turn off your TV
    Open your mind.

    Oh wait...
    Coming from someone who uses sexual connotations to attack people...I've taken screen shots of your disgusting comments 
    You perceived it as an attack.  Plus I love a juicy double entendre.

    I'm touched, though, that you took time time to save my post to your device's nether regions.  To what end, :i_dunno:
    I wonder if you could say these disgusting things physically in front of me?...or are you just hiding behind your keyboard like the coward you are? Haha
    I would like to see you try and intimidate this strong woman irl.  Would you puff out your chest and stare?
    Would you take a swing?

    I'd like to be there.  

    It would be fun, at least for me.

    :)

    Mmmmmmm, puffy chests. Do they have to wear a puffy shirt? 

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    RYME said:
    i_lov_it said:
    i_lov_it said:
    hedonist said:
    i_lov_it said:
    i_lov_it said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    This whole scamdemic is becoming embarrassing now...just waiting for the government to admit it
    Congrats. Sounds like no one close to you has died from it. 
    Obviously what do you think 
    Yup, 113,998 dead Americans thus far sounds like a scamdemic to me. 
    Turn off your TV
    Open your mind.

    Oh wait...
    Coming from someone who uses sexual connotations to attack people...I've taken screen shots of your disgusting comments 
    Whoa! Screen shots of disgusting comments? Is that a thing? Or a guilty pleasure? Kids these days.
    Come on "Halifax to the Max" surely you have some mature debates to put across on this forum?
    Nope he dosent.  It's all virtue signaling Aren't we cool with our masks on even if the WHO said they're not necessary, and they actually make you more susceptible because you fussing with your face.  Unless you have a fever shortness of breath not necessary.  More harm than good saidDr Fauchi in February.
    It's a state rule in Virginia.  How could it possibly be more harm,  assuming buying them isn't taking masks from front line workers? Why would doctors wear masks if they cause more harm?
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,462
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    i_lov_it said:
    i_lov_it said:
    hedonist said:
    i_lov_it said:
    i_lov_it said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    This whole scamdemic is becoming embarrassing now...just waiting for the government to admit it
    Congrats. Sounds like no one close to you has died from it. 
    Obviously what do you think 
    Yup, 113,998 dead Americans thus far sounds like a scamdemic to me. 
    Turn off your TV
    Open your mind.

    Oh wait...
    Coming from someone who uses sexual connotations to attack people...I've taken screen shots of your disgusting comments 
    Whoa! Screen shots of disgusting comments? Is that a thing? Or a guilty pleasure? Kids these days.
    Come on "Halifax to the Max" surely you have some mature debates to put across on this forum?
    Nope he dosent.  It's all virtue signaling Aren't we cool with our masks on even if the WHO said they're not necessary, and they actually make you more susceptible because you fussing with your face.  Unless you have a fever shortness of breath not necessary.  More harm than good saidDr Fauchi in February.
    It's a state rule in Virginia.  How could it possibly be more harm,  assuming buying them isn't taking masks from front line workers? Why would doctors wear masks if they cause more harm?
    Stop trying to reason with idiocy and ignorance 

    Wearing a mask hurts no one

    The same people who argue against wearing a mask by saying "my body my choice" are also mostly forced birthers.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,545
    mrussel1 said:
    RYME said:
    i_lov_it said:
    i_lov_it said:
    hedonist said:
    i_lov_it said:
    i_lov_it said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    i_lov_it said:
    This whole scamdemic is becoming embarrassing now...just waiting for the government to admit it
    Congrats. Sounds like no one close to you has died from it. 
    Obviously what do you think 
    Yup, 113,998 dead Americans thus far sounds like a scamdemic to me. 
    Turn off your TV
    Open your mind.

    Oh wait...
    Coming from someone who uses sexual connotations to attack people...I've taken screen shots of your disgusting comments 
    Whoa! Screen shots of disgusting comments? Is that a thing? Or a guilty pleasure? Kids these days.
    Come on "Halifax to the Max" surely you have some mature debates to put across on this forum?
    Nope he dosent.  It's all virtue signaling Aren't we cool with our masks on even if the WHO said they're not necessary, and they actually make you more susceptible because you fussing with your face.  Unless you have a fever shortness of breath not necessary.  More harm than good saidDr Fauchi in February.
    It's a state rule in Virginia.  How could it possibly be more harm,  assuming buying them isn't taking masks from front line workers? Why would doctors wear masks if they cause more harm?
    note the reference to a February statement by Fauci.

    it would be great to have Ryme post the latest guidelines from both.....
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    This article from the Guardian describes a bit of the mindset seen here.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/15/republican-coronavirus-skepticism-may-shift-cases-rise-states-trump-won

    Skepticism among some Republicans about the real threat of the coronavirus pandemic, that may have been influenced by racial attitudes, could shift as positive cases of infection are now climbing in areas with strong support for Donald Trump, research suggests. 

    Vulnerable populations in rural, conservative-leaning areas of the country, meanwhile, where health infrastructure is poor and public spending on health is low, could face increasing risks from Covid-19 at a time when job losses have led millions to lose health insurance. 

    A well-documented partisan split in attitudes about coronavirus emerged in the early months of the pandemic. Republican men were less likely to wear protective masks than other groups, and Republicans were more likely to say their states were moving too slowly to reopen their economies. 

    The discrepancy was attributed to factors including support for Trump, who downplayed the coronavirus threat, and even to gender differences in health-related conduct.

    But research suggests that racial attitudes, which strongly correlate with party affiliation in the United States, might also have reinforced an empathy gap for the early victims of Covid-19, who were disproportionately African American.

    A white Republican state senator from Ohio recently expressed that gap in shocking terms at an official hearing this week. “Could it just be that African Americans, the colored population, do not wash their hands as well as other groups?” the official, Steve Huffman, said in remarks captured on video.

    Jody Armour, a University of Southern California law professor and author of the forthcoming N*gga Theory: Race, Language, Unequal Justice, and the Law, said: “One of the dominant kinds of discrimination today is actually unconscious indifference toward people who don’t look like you, who are outside your in-group.”

    “When people are looking at out-group members, at an unconscious level, they don’t have the same level of care and concern for them, they don’t have a panic of empathy for them when they see them in distress.”

    Leonie Huddy, a professor of political science at Stony Brook University in New York, said that Trump’s message to supporters downplaying coronavirus had a racial subtext.

    “Very much under the surface is a sort of winking and nodding about the fact that the African American community has been more heavily affected,” Huddy said. “And so there’s a bit of, you know, ‘Maybe we’re OK’, because Trump’s supporters are largely white.”

    “Trump’s not going to say that out loud, that’s a little too much even for him, but he’s good at alluding to that kind of thing.”

    In the early stages of the pandemic, African Americans died of Covid-19 at three times the rate of white people, according to figures compiled by the non-partisan APM Research Lab. Only 21% of Covid-19 deaths by late May were recorded in counties won by Trump in 2016, according to a New York Times analysis.

    But coronavirus cases are now growing quickly in some rural and exurban areas with strong Trump support. Covid-19 cases are climbing in Arizona, Florida, South Carolina and Arkansas, and in Texas hospitalizations for Covid-19 are up 42% since Memorial Day.

    A relative lack of health infrastructure in parts of rural America and economic devastation from the Covid-19 closures mean that already vulnerable communities could be overwhelmed. Older, rural voters in Republican-led states that declined to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act are more likely to lack health insurance than the urban poor, according to a 2018 study.

    Residents of rural areas tend to be older and sicker than their urban counterparts, according to the Centers for Disease Control, and they have longer travel distances to specialty and emergency care. The intensive care unit beds needed to ventilate critical Covid-19 patients are unequally distributed across the country.

    Public attitudes can confound predictions based on race and income level. White non-college grads, a group that broke 64-28 for Trump in the 2016 election, think that protests about the police killing of George Floyd are “mostly legitimate” by a 51-39 margin, according to Marist polling.

    But conservative political beliefs have been found to correlate with reliance on federal aid in states such as Kentucky, where residents counted on the federal government for at least 40% of their personal income in 28 out of 120 counties, as of 2014

    Conservatives can both disproportionately rely on social welfare programs and oppose such programs owing to inaccurate perceptions about whom the programs benefit – perceptions once again informed by race, Huddy said. 

    “I think that people that live in some of these areas would be surprised to find that in fact their area is a major recipient of federal transfer from more Democratic states to more Republican states,” said Huddy. “I think it would be surprising information to them. But that is the reality.”

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  • mickeyrat
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    hmmmm, thats very strange. it seems both organizations recommend wearing of cloth face coverings...... I dont get it. @RYME told it was all bullshit. well fuck. Now I dont know what to believe.


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  • ConorKavanagh
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    This thread is nasty.
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    This thread is nasty.
    Most threads that I visit on AMT seem to end up that way, unfortunately. 

  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    This thread is nasty.
    Whenever I post an article with a vaccine or therapeutic update, it gets a reply or two if that. When someone posts about not wearing masks or shares shitty data about death/case counts in an attempt to make a stupid political point it goes on for pages.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,380
    You know what's nasty? This:

    June 15, 2020 — It’s a sobering reality that the surge in mobility is driving up transmission of the coronavirus. Fourteen states reported an alarming 40% increase in cases and hospitalizations. The CDC is projecting 140,000 deaths by July 4th, and Harvard Medical predicts 200,000 by early fall. Across the globe, the U.S. jumped 36% while the most notable European countries saw declines. Yet as individuals we can still do something. Practice social/physical distancing; limit the number and duration of close contacts; wash your hands frequently; and wear a face covering. Medical journals cite the chance of transmission without a face mask is 17.4%, while that fell to 3.1% when a face mask was worn. Compelling!

    And the people who claim a face mask "does nothing." 
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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,339
    Damn, I thought I had missed some kind of coronavirus bombshell. Thankfully this forum is the extent of my social media intake, I don't think I could handle any more positivity on a daily basis.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    JW269453 said:
    Damn, I thought I had missed some kind of coronavirus bombshell. Thankfully this forum is the extent of my social media intake, I don't think I could handle any more positivity on a daily basis.

    It's not a very positive subject.  Especially for those who test positive for the virus.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    pjl44 said:
    This thread is nasty.
    Whenever I post an article with a vaccine or therapeutic update, it gets a reply or two if that. When someone posts about not wearing masks or shares shitty data about death/case counts in an attempt to make a stupid political point it goes on for pages.

    So this site is no better than Facebook?
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,546
    pjl44 said:
    This thread is nasty.
    Whenever I post an article with a vaccine or therapeutic update, it gets a reply or two if that. When someone posts about not wearing masks or shares shitty data about death/case counts in an attempt to make a stupid political point it goes on for pages.

    So this site is no better than Facebook?
    It seems to come in waves. If the right people are around and engaged, you can sustain some good conversations. A couple wackos are always around and it's just a matter of whether they're being drowned out or if they've taken over temporarily with help from new wackos.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    This thread is nasty.
    Whenever I post an article with a vaccine or therapeutic update, it gets a reply or two if that. When someone posts about not wearing masks or shares shitty data about death/case counts in an attempt to make a stupid political point it goes on for pages.

    So this site is no better than Facebook?
    It seems to come in waves. If the right people are around and engaged, you can sustain some good conversations. A couple wackos are always around and it's just a matter of whether they're being drowned out or if they've taken over temporarily with help from new wackos.
    I find new whackos very entertaining.  Don't speak poorly of them.  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,425
    Yep, things are going to get nasty because people aren't dying fast enough anymore so the demand to return to normal will only become more fervent. We are in a tough position right now because if for some reason the virus doesn't see a resurgence due to reopening, the attitude among the non-believers against science will only increase and gain traction that it shouldn't. There are enough self proclaimed experts on here alone to gauge how many among the world population think their "common sense" is better than expert opinions. These are also the same people who like Trump. It's no surprise and is easily comparable to the already decades old battle about climate change that has never gained full support. Nothing you or any article you link (especially from the media, experts or national health community) will change their minds. They have it all figured out. We're the sheep.

    My parents have this same stupid thinking and bitch about our Democratic governor ruining the state. I love my parents to death, but honestly, they need to get it or they'll never figure it out. Unfortunately, sometimes something tragic has to happen in order for people, and society at large, to change for the better. Apparently, 100,000 strangers (for most anyway) doesn't mean shit. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,462
    I sure hope we can still drink bleach and inject lysol...

    US revokes emergency use of malaria drugs vs. coronavirus
    https://news.yahoo.com/us-revokes-emergency-malaria-drugs-160427452.html
  • josevolution
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    i_lov_it said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    How many lives could of been saved if we were told to wear masks early on? Instead of being told it does nothing? Nothing makes me angrier then when someone tries to come in my store with no mask. I have zero tolerance or patience for that. 

    I totally agree!  It's such an easy thing to do.  Those like you who work in a store are there for hours.  People who come in to shop are generally there for just minutes.  Asking people to wear a mask is not a lot to ask.  I hope must of you customers are smart and caring enough to do that. 

    When the pandemic hit, I stopped working at the bookstore and just do my book sales on line now.  I'm fortunate to basically be able to do mostly be retired (and certainly old enough to do so.)
    Ha. Some lady said “but it’s uncomfortable “. I swear. A grown adult woman. I was shocked. Like I want to wear one for 10 hours. I have not tolerance for it. No mask, no entry. Period. 

    Masks have been proven that they don't make a difference...plus where were everyone's masks last year when over half a million people died of the flu...effing hypocrites
    Go ahead go out & about hang out shake hands hug each other, if your so sure and believe all the death has all been made up ! 
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,494
    I sure hope we can still drink bleach and inject lysol...

    US revokes emergency use of malaria drugs vs. coronavirus
    https://news.yahoo.com/us-revokes-emergency-malaria-drugs-160427452.html
    Trump was taking one of these, yes?
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