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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I'm not sure whether to post to this thread or start a new thread altogether: has anyone seen what's going on in Palmdale, CA? A young Black man, Robert Fuller, has been found hanging from a tree near City Hall. Police are quick to label the death a suicide, but Palmdale has a history of white supremacism and there are questions about why no-one heard or saw the hanging in so public a place. Many suspect a lynching:

    https://occupydemocrats.com/2020/06/12/body-of-young-black-man-is-found-hanging-from-a-tree-in-palmdale-ca-2/
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    My brother is a LA county deputy and was driving a van transporting inmates. The bus in front of him, also transporting inmates, was swarmed and ambushed by protestors. Threw rocks and bricks at it and jump on top, it was completely stuck. My brother turned around and passed some reporters a few blocks away reporting on another protest. He pulled over to tell them what was going on a few blocks away and they told him they have been instructed by their networks to not report anything violent and only cover peaceful protests.

    i have little doubt we aren’t getting a very accurate story of what is going on in some of these cities. 
  • MissPennyLane
    MissPennyLane Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 687
    mace1229 said:
    My brother is a LA county deputy and was driving a van transporting inmates. The bus in front of him, also transporting inmates, was swarmed and ambushed by protestors. Threw rocks and bricks at it and jump on top, it was completely stuck. My brother turned around and passed some reporters a few blocks away reporting on another protest. He pulled over to tell them what was going on a few blocks away and they told him they have been instructed by their networks to not report anything violent and only cover peaceful protests.

    i have little doubt we aren’t getting a very accurate story of what is going on in some of these cities. 
    Thank you for this...  I live south of LA and this whole time cannot put my finger on it. I've been working from home and have ktla on every morning just for background noise and it's been interesting to see the extreme change of reporting from Covid being 24/7 to then riots all of a sudden being 24/7  (covid almost didn't exist?)...i only was interested to see the "local  news" on a daily basis as this is the first time I can actually do that.....it's all so fake and so predictable....I sometimes cringed at these reporters.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    "You can't believe half of what you see and none of what you here." 
    -Lou Reed (possible an original saying by Edgar Allen Poe?) 

    So all we can do is read widely, talk to a wide range of people if possible, observe when possible, and be skeptical of anything you read, or hear about, including stuff here.  Including what I say.  Question it all.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mace1229 said:
    My brother is a LA county deputy and was driving a van transporting inmates. The bus in front of him, also transporting inmates, was swarmed and ambushed by protestors. Threw rocks and bricks at it and jump on top, it was completely stuck. My brother turned around and passed some reporters a few blocks away reporting on another protest. He pulled over to tell them what was going on a few blocks away and they told him they have been instructed by their networks to not report anything violent and only cover peaceful protests.

    i have little doubt we aren’t getting a very accurate story of what is going on in some of these cities. 
    Are you sure the bus didn't just trip and fall?
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    A man driving a busload of criminals pulled over to get out and talk to reporters?

    Reporters only report on good news?

    Strange days, indeed.
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  • Bentleyspop
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    F Me In The Brain said:
    A man driving a busload of criminals pulled over to get out and talk to reporters?

    Reporters only report on good news?

    Strange days, indeed.
    Ya pretty wild story indeed. 
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    rgambs said:
    mace1229 said:
    My brother is a LA county deputy and was driving a van transporting inmates. The bus in front of him, also transporting inmates, was swarmed and ambushed by protestors. Threw rocks and bricks at it and jump on top, it was completely stuck. My brother turned around and passed some reporters a few blocks away reporting on another protest. He pulled over to tell them what was going on a few blocks away and they told him they have been instructed by their networks to not report anything violent and only cover peaceful protests.

    i have little doubt we aren’t getting a very accurate story of what is going on in some of these cities. 
    Are you sure the bus didn't just trip and fall?
    Cops never make up stuff. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,062
    mace1229 said:
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
    So the protestors let one bus go to tell the story?
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    edited June 2020
    mace1229 said:
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
    A lot of information was shared in 6 seconds.

    Call me a skeptic.

    In the age of twitter it would be kind of hard to hide all this secret rioting. Maybe your brother should start recording all this troubling behavior to share it with the world.
    Post edited by dignin on
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    edited June 2020
    How long does it take for you to say “you should cover the LA county buss that got swarmed 2 blocks over” “We can’t, our network said to only cover peaceful protest, no violence” ?
    If that takes you more than 8 seconds you should see a speech therapist. I stutter since I was about 4 and I can still get that out in less than 6 seconds.
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,001
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
    A lot of information was shared in 6 seconds.

    Call me a skeptic.

    In the age of twitter it would kind of hard to hide all this secret rioting. Maybe your brother should start recording all this troubling behavior to share it with the world.
    Not to mention that LA’s skies are typically filled with police and news station traffic reporter helicopters and all the news outlets monitor police communications for that inevitable car chase they can film live. That, and I suppose neither of them called for backup or were escorted in some way, drawing more attention to the “story” that didn’t get reported. Any self respecting journalist wouldn’t say such a thing. Now, whether they file a report and their GM squashes it, that’s another story. More incitement of “lawlessness” caused by the radical left. I’m sure FaceTurd is full of posts about how the prisoners were released into the community and there’s already been rapes and murders and robbery.


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  • mace1229
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    edited June 2020
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
    A lot of information was shared in 6 seconds.

    Call me a skeptic.

    In the age of twitter it would kind of hard to hide all this secret rioting. Maybe your brother should start recording all this troubling behavior to share it with the world.
    Not to mention that LA’s skies are typically filled with police and news station traffic reporter helicopters and all the news outlets monitor police communications for that inevitable car chase they can film live. That, and I suppose neither of them called for backup or were escorted in some way, drawing more attention to the “story” that didn’t get reported. Any self respecting journalist wouldn’t say such a thing. Now, whether they file a report and their GM squashes it, that’s another story. More incitement of “lawlessness” caused by the radical left. I’m sure FaceTurd is full of posts about how the prisoners were released into the community and there’s already been rapes and murders and robbery.


    Where did I say they never called for backup? I took a 5 minute conversation and turned it into about 2 sentences to share. But of course you want leaked secured documents every time I share an experience. 
    They called for backup, he witnessed the first moments live and listened to the rest on the radio as backup arrived and Several patrol cars dispersed the crowd surrounding the bus.
    But whatever, you’re also the one that didn’t believe me when I said they are about to release most of the jails for due to Covid  because I wouldn’t provide leaked secret  documentation, then a few days later every major city was reporting they did. Either you think I made the whole thing up, or my brother lied to me, or that maybe the news isn’t reporting on violent protests. Since just a week ago they were looting stores in broad daylight in front of cops and suddenly you don’t see that happening anymore it doesn’t seem like a big stretch. Or maybe they just all decided to do better? Whatever.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,001
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
    A lot of information was shared in 6 seconds.

    Call me a skeptic.

    In the age of twitter it would kind of hard to hide all this secret rioting. Maybe your brother should start recording all this troubling behavior to share it with the world.
    Not to mention that LA’s skies are typically filled with police and news station traffic reporter helicopters and all the news outlets monitor police communications for that inevitable car chase they can film live. That, and I suppose neither of them called for backup or were escorted in some way, drawing more attention to the “story” that didn’t get reported. Any self respecting journalist wouldn’t say such a thing. Now, whether they file a report and their GM squashes it, that’s another story. More incitement of “lawlessness” caused by the radical left. I’m sure FaceTurd is full of posts about how the prisoners were released into the community and there’s already been rapes and murders and robbery.


    Where did I say they never called for backup? I took a 5 minute conversation and turned it into about 2 sentences to share. But of course you want leaked secured documents every time I share an experience. 
    They called for backup, he witnessed the first moments live and listened to the rest on the radio as backup arrived and Several patrol cars dispersed the crowd surrounding the bus.
    But whatever, you’re also the one that didn’t believe me when I said they are about to release most of the jails for due to Covid  because I wouldn’t provide leaked secret  documentation, then a few days later every major city was reporting they did. Either you think I made the whole thing up, or my brother lied to me, or that maybe the news isn’t reporting on violent protests. Since just a week ago they were looting stores in broad daylight in front of cops and suddenly you don’t see that happening anymore it doesn’t seem like a big stretch. Or maybe they just all decided to do better? Whatever.
    I don’t believe the press wouldn’t report on a DOC bus being attacked with rocks and protestors jumping on the roof. Not with the amount of surveillance deployed by the press and law enforcement. But typical of your posts, your information comes second hand without a verifiable source. It’s an old schtick.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
    A lot of information was shared in 6 seconds.

    Call me a skeptic.

    In the age of twitter it would kind of hard to hide all this secret rioting. Maybe your brother should start recording all this troubling behavior to share it with the world.
    Not to mention that LA’s skies are typically filled with police and news station traffic reporter helicopters and all the news outlets monitor police communications for that inevitable car chase they can film live. That, and I suppose neither of them called for backup or were escorted in some way, drawing more attention to the “story” that didn’t get reported. Any self respecting journalist wouldn’t say such a thing. Now, whether they file a report and their GM squashes it, that’s another story. More incitement of “lawlessness” caused by the radical left. I’m sure FaceTurd is full of posts about how the prisoners were released into the community and there’s already been rapes and murders and robbery.


    Where did I say they never called for backup? I took a 5 minute conversation and turned it into about 2 sentences to share. But of course you want leaked secured documents every time I share an experience. 
    They called for backup, he witnessed the first moments live and listened to the rest on the radio as backup arrived and Several patrol cars dispersed the crowd surrounding the bus.
    But whatever, you’re also the one that didn’t believe me when I said they are about to release most of the jails for due to Covid  because I wouldn’t provide leaked secret  documentation, then a few days later every major city was reporting they did. Either you think I made the whole thing up, or my brother lied to me, or that maybe the news isn’t reporting on violent protests. Since just a week ago they were looting stores in broad daylight in front of cops and suddenly you don’t see that happening anymore it doesn’t seem like a big stretch. Or maybe they just all decided to do better? Whatever.
    I don’t believe the press wouldn’t report on a DOC bus being attacked with rocks and protestors jumping on the roof. Not with the amount of surveillance deployed by the press and law enforcement. But typical of your posts, your information comes second hand without a verifiable source. It’s an old schtick.
    And how do you propose I provide a source when sharing personal information? I mean other than last time I was proven completely correct by the media
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    Last time you accused me of the same thing when I shared my same brother warned LA was about to release most of their inmates. Turns out most major cities did within a few days. I guess it’s a better schtick than just personal attacks every time I disagree with someone.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,657
    edited June 2020
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
    A lot of information was shared in 6 seconds.

    Call me a skeptic.

    In the age of twitter it would kind of hard to hide all this secret rioting. Maybe your brother should start recording all this troubling behavior to share it with the world.
    Not to mention that LA’s skies are typically filled with police and news station traffic reporter helicopters and all the news outlets monitor police communications for that inevitable car chase they can film live. That, and I suppose neither of them called for backup or were escorted in some way, drawing more attention to the “story” that didn’t get reported. Any self respecting journalist wouldn’t say such a thing. Now, whether they file a report and their GM squashes it, that’s another story. More incitement of “lawlessness” caused by the radical left. I’m sure FaceTurd is full of posts about how the prisoners were released into the community and there’s already been rapes and murders and robbery.


    Where did I say they never called for backup? I took a 5 minute conversation and turned it into about 2 sentences to share. But of course you want leaked secured documents every time I share an experience. 
    They called for backup, he witnessed the first moments live and listened to the rest on the radio as backup arrived and Several patrol cars dispersed the crowd surrounding the bus.
    But whatever, you’re also the one that didn’t believe me when I said they are about to release most of the jails for due to Covid  because I wouldn’t provide leaked secret  documentation, then a few days later every major city was reporting they did. Either you think I made the whole thing up, or my brother lied to me, or that maybe the news isn’t reporting on violent protests. Since just a week ago they were looting stores in broad daylight in front of cops and suddenly you don’t see that happening anymore it doesn’t seem like a big stretch. Or maybe they just all decided to do better? Whatever.
    I don’t believe the press wouldn’t report on a DOC bus being attacked with rocks and protestors jumping on the roof. Not with the amount of surveillance deployed by the press and law enforcement. But typical of your posts, your information comes second hand without a verifiable source. It’s an old schtick.
    And how do you propose I provide a source when sharing personal information? I mean other than last time I was proven completely correct by the media

    I don't think we need to not take you word for what your brother told you.  Yes, more verification would be helpful but lets take yours and his words for it and move on forward from there.   At which point I would say, assuming your story is 100% correct, does this prove that the media is only reporting non-violent protest and that the violence is being hidden by the media?  That's pretty much a rhetorical question.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    I hesitate sharing any Th omg personal because the cop haters are always going to hate. Believe me or not, just sharing some info. Because news reporters out on the corner in one of the largest cities in the world during massive protests is hard to believe you could stop at an intersection, roll down a window and have a 6 second conversation waiting on traffic. 
    A lot of information was shared in 6 seconds.

    Call me a skeptic.

    In the age of twitter it would kind of hard to hide all this secret rioting. Maybe your brother should start recording all this troubling behavior to share it with the world.
    Not to mention that LA’s skies are typically filled with police and news station traffic reporter helicopters and all the news outlets monitor police communications for that inevitable car chase they can film live. That, and I suppose neither of them called for backup or were escorted in some way, drawing more attention to the “story” that didn’t get reported. Any self respecting journalist wouldn’t say such a thing. Now, whether they file a report and their GM squashes it, that’s another story. More incitement of “lawlessness” caused by the radical left. I’m sure FaceTurd is full of posts about how the prisoners were released into the community and there’s already been rapes and murders and robbery.


    Where did I say they never called for backup? I took a 5 minute conversation and turned it into about 2 sentences to share. But of course you want leaked secured documents every time I share an experience. 
    They called for backup, he witnessed the first moments live and listened to the rest on the radio as backup arrived and Several patrol cars dispersed the crowd surrounding the bus.
    But whatever, you’re also the one that didn’t believe me when I said they are about to release most of the jails for due to Covid  because I wouldn’t provide leaked secret  documentation, then a few days later every major city was reporting they did. Either you think I made the whole thing up, or my brother lied to me, or that maybe the news isn’t reporting on violent protests. Since just a week ago they were looting stores in broad daylight in front of cops and suddenly you don’t see that happening anymore it doesn’t seem like a big stretch. Or maybe they just all decided to do better? Whatever.
    I don’t believe the press wouldn’t report on a DOC bus being attacked with rocks and protestors jumping on the roof. Not with the amount of surveillance deployed by the press and law enforcement. But typical of your posts, your information comes second hand without a verifiable source. It’s an old schtick.
    And how do you propose I provide a source when sharing personal information? I mean other than last time I was proven completely correct by the media
    Is all police communication easily monitored.  I would suspect that the LAPD have a way to communicate securely...and I would think a DOC bus under threat would be as good a reason as any to to use a secure way to communicate..
    Give Peas A Chance…
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