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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    edited June 2020
    cblock4life said:
    What I want to say to you after some of your posts takes us back to square one.  I have NO desire to correspond with you and I certainly owe you no explanations.  
    I know I'm just a teacher but i would like to know why you think it is ok to advocate for violence towards the police and what positive change such an action could have.  Again just a teacher trying to navigate my way through the fluff.  
    Signed the guy always commenting on everything without even remembering what I said...just writing to participate with no critical recall.
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    My posts have been offensive to you in some way?  Really and truly?  So be it.

    The question, by the way, was genuine.  Certainly your prerogative to spurn it.
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    What I want to say to you after some of your posts takes us back to square one.  I have NO desire to correspond with you and I certainly owe you no explanations.  
    I know I'm just a teacher but i would like to know why you think it is ok to advocate for violence towards the police and what positive change such an action could have.  Again just a teacher trying to navigate my way through the fluff.  
    Signed the guy always commenting on everything without even remembering what I said...just writing to participate with no critical recall.
    It could be worse. Could be a PE “teacher.”
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,371
    PJNB said:
    Holy shit this could have been bad. No one appeared to have got hurt and hope it was somehow confusion on the drivers part and he was not harmed



    PJNB said:
    Holy shit this could have been bad. No one appeared to have got hurt and hope it was somehow confusion on the drivers part and he was not harmed


     

    Semi plows through crowd protesting in Minneapolis

    The driver of a tanker truck is in custody after he plowed his tractor-trailer into a crowd of protesters on a Minnesota highway.

    Gov. Tim Waltz quoted reports saying multiple protesters were treated for injuries after the truck barreled through protesters on I-35W, which was closed to vehicular traffic.

    "A horrifying image on our television -- a semi ... with a flammable or toxic substance going full force into a crowd of peaceful protesters," Walz said.

    Authorities said they don't yet know the driver's motives.


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    What I want to say to you after some of your posts takes us back to square one.  I have NO desire to correspond with you and I certainly owe you no explanations.  
    I know I'm just a teacher but i would like to know why you think it is ok to advocate for violence towards the police and what positive change such an action could have.  Again just a teacher trying to navigate my way through the fluff.  
    Signed the guy always commenting on everything without even remembering what I said...just writing to participate with no critical recall.
    It could be worse. Could be a PE “teacher.”
    It's so weird to me when people on the forum bring up my profession.  Is that a defense mechanism?  I honestly don't give a shit what everyone does for a living.  Like if you are a garbagemen is your opinion less important?  Should we all post our educational credentials moving forward?

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    edited June 2020
    We are all just amateur social media Influencers on this board.  

    I look out my window and see about 20 police officers.  About as safe as one could be.  The curfew would be more eerie if we weren’t already used to it with stay at home Covid orders
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    Saw a crowd chanting “hands up don’t shoot” on TV. Made me wonder, why are they chanting that? Are they aware that was determined to not happen, and didn’t even the witness who first stated that recant his statement?
    Does that mean they believe it was a cover up, do they not know that didn’t happen? Another reason?
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    At least the protesters at City Hall are actually protesting at the moment. The ones west of us today and right now are continuing to steal from, spray paint and set fire to various businesses.

    I think we’ll go back to watching The Walking Dead :lol: 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    edited June 2020
    After dark it doesn’t look like any protestors are out. Majority of people out late at night look like they’re having fun, been stuck inside too long as glad to be out, taking selfies and having a good time, or are looting stores. No message or unity, either there to have fun or steal stuff. 
    During the day looks like a different story, but that’s what it looks like at night to me.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,107
    edited June 2020
    mace1229 said:
    Saw a crowd chanting “hands up don’t shoot” on TV. Made me wonder, why are they chanting that? Are they aware that was determined to not happen, and didn’t even the witness who first stated that recant his statement?
    Does that mean they believe it was a cover up, do they not know that didn’t happen? Another reason?
    Ever had to put your hands out the car window after being pulled over, mace? Ever had a cop ask you to keep your hands where they can see them? Is this really what you're focused on now, at this place and time? And does it really matter? I guess no black people have ever been shot dead before they even had a chance to "show their hands?" What is wrong with you? And as is typical, you don't reference what was not "determined to have happened." Who was the witness, mace, in your reference? And how many were there that were interviewed? Asking for someone who can't ask.


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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    edited June 2020
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw a crowd chanting “hands up don’t shoot” on TV. Made me wonder, why are they chanting that? Are they aware that was determined to not happen, and didn’t even the witness who first stated that recant his statement?
    Does that mean they believe it was a cover up, do they not know that didn’t happen? Another reason?
    Ever had to put your hands out the car window after being pulled over, mace? Ever had a cop ask you to keep your hands where they can see them? Is this really what you're focused on now, at this place and time? And does it really matter? I guess no black people have ever been shot dead before they even had a chance to "show their hands?" What is wrong with you? And as is typical, you don't reference what was not "determined to have happened." Who was the witness, mace, in your reference? And how many were there that were interviewed? Asking for someone who can't ask.


    Not what I’m focused on, havn’t really thought about it since I posted it.
    But the AG Eric Holder’s investigation is what determined that, that racist SOB.

    I haven’t heard that phrase in any recent protest, Was curious if people don’t believe the AG’s investigation and believe that did happen with Michael Brown or if there’s another reason. Fee free not to respond if you don’t have an answer to a question. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,107
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw a crowd chanting “hands up don’t shoot” on TV. Made me wonder, why are they chanting that? Are they aware that was determined to not happen, and didn’t even the witness who first stated that recant his statement?
    Does that mean they believe it was a cover up, do they not know that didn’t happen? Another reason?
    Ever had to put your hands out the car window after being pulled over, mace? Ever had a cop ask you to keep your hands where they can see them? Is this really what you're focused on now, at this place and time? And does it really matter? I guess no black people have ever been shot dead before they even had a chance to "show their hands?" What is wrong with you? And as is typical, you don't reference what was not "determined to have happened." Who was the witness, mace, in your reference? And how many were there that were interviewed? Asking for someone who can't ask.


    Not what I’m focused on, havn’t really thought about it since I posted it.
    But the AG Eric Holder’s investigation is what determined that, that racist SOB.

    I haven’t heard that phrase in any recent protest, Was curious if people don’t believe the AG’s investigation and believe that did happen with Michael Brown or if there’s another reason. Fee free not to respond if you don’t have an answer to a question. 
    Your original question lacked detail. Your statements supposed and surmised. I’ll ask you a question that’s relevant to making my point, do you believe Tara Reade?

    But you made the effort to posit something lacking context and detail because you “haven’t really thought about it since posting it.” Trolling? Brain fart? Throwing shit out there to see what sticks? Or lacking critical thought in the context of our times?

    Was it proven that Michael Brown didn’t have his hands up when he was shot to death? Again, asking for somebody who can’t ask.

    What was the question again, mace? I’m a little slow (because there’s four of them).
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    25% of Boston is suppose to open up tomorrow, many business’s will be short of inventory after tonight’s shit show...at least the plywood business will do well in the coming days...
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Saw a crowd chanting “hands up don’t shoot” on TV. Made me wonder, why are they chanting that? Are they aware that was determined to not happen, and didn’t even the witness who first stated that recant his statement?
    Does that mean they believe it was a cover up, do they not know that didn’t happen? Another reason?
    Ever had to put your hands out the car window after being pulled over, mace? Ever had a cop ask you to keep your hands where they can see them? Is this really what you're focused on now, at this place and time? And does it really matter? I guess no black people have ever been shot dead before they even had a chance to "show their hands?" What is wrong with you? And as is typical, you don't reference what was not "determined to have happened." Who was the witness, mace, in your reference? And how many were there that were interviewed? Asking for someone who can't ask.


    Not what I’m focused on, havn’t really thought about it since I posted it.
    But the AG Eric Holder’s investigation is what determined that, that racist SOB.

    I haven’t heard that phrase in any recent protest, Was curious if people don’t believe the AG’s investigation and believe that did happen with Michael Brown or if there’s another reason. Fee free not to respond if you don’t have an answer to a question. 
    Your original question lacked detail. Your statements supposed and surmised. I’ll ask you a question that’s relevant to making my point, do you believe Tara Reade?

    But you made the effort to posit something lacking context and detail because you “haven’t really thought about it since posting it.” Trolling? Brain fart? Throwing shit out there to see what sticks? Or lacking critical thought in the context of our times?

    Was it proven that Michael Brown didn’t have his hands up when he was shot to death? Again, asking for somebody who can’t ask.

    What was the question again, mace? I’m a little slow (because there’s four of them).
    Not sure where your going with the whole being slow thing, but whatever. 

    So I’m not allowed to see something on TV and have a thought about it? It just struck me as unusual, since that rally cry had essentially been proven false. Not trolling, maybe there is a real reason I’m aware of. Maybe it’s been said all along and I never picked up on it before. Maybe the BLM movement never accepting Eric Holder’s findings. I don’t know, that’s why I asked.

    I don’t know if I believe Tara. Was very long ago and I doubt anyone will know what happened. It’s possible it happened, it’s possible it was made up, it’s possible it was some flirting to plant the seed and it’s evolved in her mind over 25 years. Some parts of her story seem strange, like her continued support for Biden after. But some claim she spoke about it long ago. So I don’t know. Not sure what that has to do with white privilege. 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mace1229 said:
    Saw a crowd chanting “hands up don’t shoot” on TV. Made me wonder, why are they chanting that? Are they aware that was determined to not happen, and didn’t even the witness who first stated that recant his statement?
    Does that mean they believe it was a cover up, do they not know that didn’t happen? Another reason?
    I guess you forgot about Charles Kinsey?  
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    "Hands up don't shoot"
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    These events aren't one-off occurrences even if you only see the biggest headlines.  It's everyday life for black people in America.
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    What I want to say to you after some of your posts takes us back to square one.  I have NO desire to correspond with you and I certainly owe you no explanations.  
    I know I'm just a teacher but i would like to know why you think it is ok to advocate for violence towards the police and what positive change such an action could have.  Again just a teacher trying to navigate my way through the fluff.  
    Signed the guy always commenting on everything without even remembering what I said...just writing to participate with no critical recall.
    It could be worse. Could be a PE “teacher.”
    It's so weird to me when people on the forum bring up my profession.  Is that a defense mechanism?  I honestly don't give a shit what everyone does for a living.  Like if you are a garbagemen is your opinion less important?  Should we all post our educational credentials moving forward?

    You’ve mentioned that you’re a teacher 80 times in the last year and you are quite defensive about it. You’ve made sure everyone knows you’re a teacher and I respect teachers more than you’ll ever know....I was a school administrator.
    i couldn’t have taught, like doctors, nurses - it takes special people to do these jobs.  Don’t blame us for your constant reminders about you being a teacher.  If you do that because you’re proud of it, well that’s ok, you should be proud. 
    And all peoples opinions matter. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    edited June 2020
    cblock4life said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    What I want to say to you after some of your posts takes us back to square one.  I have NO desire to correspond with you and I certainly owe you no explanations.  
    I know I'm just a teacher but i would like to know why you think it is ok to advocate for violence towards the police and what positive change such an action could have.  Again just a teacher trying to navigate my way through the fluff.  
    Signed the guy always commenting on everything without even remembering what I said...just writing to participate with no critical recall.
    It could be worse. Could be a PE “teacher.”
    It's so weird to me when people on the forum bring up my profession.  Is that a defense mechanism?  I honestly don't give a shit what everyone does for a living.  Like if you are a garbagemen is your opinion less important?  Should we all post our educational credentials moving forward?

    You’ve mentioned that you’re a teacher 80 times in the last year and you are quite defensive about it. You’ve made sure everyone knows you’re a teacher and I respect teachers more than you’ll ever know....I was a school administrator.
    i couldn’t have taught, like doctors, nurses - it takes special people to do these jobs.  Don’t blame us for your constant reminders about you being a teacher.  If you do that because you’re proud of it, well that’s ok, you should be proud. 
    And all peoples opinions matter. 
    Yet you brought me up being a teacher in this conversation for some reason. Very odd.  
    “You’re just a teacher, you see all the fluff.”

    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    What I want to say to you after some of your posts takes us back to square one.  I have NO desire to correspond with you and I certainly owe you no explanations.  
    I know I'm just a teacher but i would like to know why you think it is ok to advocate for violence towards the police and what positive change such an action could have.  Again just a teacher trying to navigate my way through the fluff.  
    Signed the guy always commenting on everything without even remembering what I said...just writing to participate with no critical recall.
    It could be worse. Could be a PE “teacher.”
    It's so weird to me when people on the forum bring up my profession.  Is that a defense mechanism?  I honestly don't give a shit what everyone does for a living.  Like if you are a garbagemen is your opinion less important?  Should we all post our educational credentials moving forward?

    You’ve mentioned that you’re a teacher 80 times in the last year and you are quite defensive about it. You’ve made sure everyone knows you’re a teacher and I respect teachers more than you’ll ever know....I was a school administrator.
    i couldn’t have taught, like doctors, nurses - it takes special people to do these jobs.  Don’t blame us for your constant reminders about you being a teacher.  If you do that because you’re proud of it, well that’s ok, you should be proud. 
    And all peoples opinions matter. 
    Yet you brought me up being a teacher in this conversation for some reason. Very odd.  
    Holy crap!!! YOU brought up why PEOPLE (that means plural) always mention you’re a teacher and it’s because YOU always mention it! 
    Maybe you shouldn’t be a teacher of young minds cause you’re the craziest teacher I’ve ever had a conversation with. 
    LAST TIME - YOU ASKED THE QUESTION- you’re actually comical. I can’t believe I ever stuck up for you - that makes me the ass! 

  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    cblock4life said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    What I want to say to you after some of your posts takes us back to square one.  I have NO desire to correspond with you and I certainly owe you no explanations.  
    I know I'm just a teacher but i would like to know why you think it is ok to advocate for violence towards the police and what positive change such an action could have.  Again just a teacher trying to navigate my way through the fluff.  
    Signed the guy always commenting on everything without even remembering what I said...just writing to participate with no critical recall.
    It could be worse. Could be a PE “teacher.”
    It's so weird to me when people on the forum bring up my profession.  Is that a defense mechanism?  I honestly don't give a shit what everyone does for a living.  Like if you are a garbagemen is your opinion less important?  Should we all post our educational credentials moving forward?

    You’ve mentioned that you’re a teacher 80 times in the last year and you are quite defensive about it. You’ve made sure everyone knows you’re a teacher and I respect teachers more than you’ll ever know....I was a school administrator.
    i couldn’t have taught, like doctors, nurses - it takes special people to do these jobs.  Don’t blame us for your constant reminders about you being a teacher.  If you do that because you’re proud of it, well that’s ok, you should be proud. 
    And all peoples opinions matter. 
    I've been chatting with mcgruff for quite some time now. When he brings up his being a teacher, I've noticed it's one of three reasons typically - to explain the perspective he comes from (sharing anecdotes others may not have access to), responding to others who very regularly try to bait a response out of him by saying "how can you as a teacher *insert thing here*", or in response to people belittling his credibility. For right or for wrong, if in the same position, I'd probably be arguing similarly to mcgruff. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    cblock4life said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    cblock4life said:
    What I want to say to you after some of your posts takes us back to square one.  I have NO desire to correspond with you and I certainly owe you no explanations.  
    I know I'm just a teacher but i would like to know why you think it is ok to advocate for violence towards the police and what positive change such an action could have.  Again just a teacher trying to navigate my way through the fluff.  
    Signed the guy always commenting on everything without even remembering what I said...just writing to participate with no critical recall.
    It could be worse. Could be a PE “teacher.”
    It's so weird to me when people on the forum bring up my profession.  Is that a defense mechanism?  I honestly don't give a shit what everyone does for a living.  Like if you are a garbagemen is your opinion less important?  Should we all post our educational credentials moving forward?

    You’ve mentioned that you’re a teacher 80 times in the last year and you are quite defensive about it. You’ve made sure everyone knows you’re a teacher and I respect teachers more than you’ll ever know....I was a school administrator.
    i couldn’t have taught, like doctors, nurses - it takes special people to do these jobs.  Don’t blame us for your constant reminders about you being a teacher.  If you do that because you’re proud of it, well that’s ok, you should be proud. 
    And all peoples opinions matter. 
    Yet you brought me up being a teacher in this conversation for some reason. Very odd.  
    Holy crap!!! YOU brought up why PEOPLE (that means plural) always mention you’re a teacher and it’s because YOU always mention it! 
    Maybe you shouldn’t be a teacher of young minds cause you’re the craziest teacher I’ve ever had a conversation with. 
    LAST TIME - YOU ASKED THE QUESTION- you’re actually comical. I can’t believe I ever stuck up for you - that makes me the ass! 

    My profession was brought up in this thread for the first time by you.  (And again I have no clue why it pertains to this conversation.)  Are you ok?  Do you not remember what you wrote?

    That’s right, it’s EXACTLY how I feel, you’re just a teacher, you see all the fluff.  Walk in these peoples shoes or among them for years and years and years and you may feel differently.  You have no knowledge of what being a black person in America is like...at least I’ve been consistent in my opinions.  So you had another payment taken out for Sea, Hear, Now yet you stated you live ten minutes away and wouldn’t dare attend.  What a hypocrite you are 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......

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