mcgruff10 said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

cblock4life said:

Apologies if this has already been stated but white privilege started in 1619, over 400 years ago. So violence after 400 years seems reasonable, no? I wish they would stop hurting businesses, but go ahead and burn precincts and beat as many cops as you want.  400 years is a long time to make up for. 

"beat as many cops as you want".  Does that include the cops who are marching with the protesters?  Does that include the ones who have spoken out in no uncertain terms against Derek Chauvin's despicable actions?  You would have them beaten?  Really???

Yes. He/she has clarified several times. It’s disgusting. There are some bad cops. Most don’t deserve a beating.

Correct.  just like the vast of majority of protestors are good people protesting peacefully.  I was watching CNN last night and many protestors were saying that the looters and rioters don't represent them and were asking them to stop.  

Bentleyspop said:

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1266604941889634304?s=09

cblock4life said:

mcgruff10 said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

cblock4life said:

Apologies if this has already been stated but white privilege started in 1619, over 400 years ago. So violence after 400 years seems reasonable, no? I wish they would stop hurting businesses, but go ahead and burn precincts and beat as many cops as you want.  400 years is a long time to make up for. 

"beat as many cops as you want".  Does that include the cops who are marching with the protesters?  Does that include the ones who have spoken out in no uncertain terms against Derek Chauvin's despicable actions?  You would have them beaten?  Really???

Yes. He/she has clarified several times. It’s disgusting. There are some bad cops. Most don’t deserve a beating.

Correct.  just like the vast of majority of protestors are good people protesting peacefully.  I was watching CNN last night and many protestors were saying that the looters and rioters don't represent them and were asking them to stop.  

NYPD just plowed into a group of protesters. deserved, justified?  I’m sure all you cop lovers will agree that it’s justified 

brianlux said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

Apologies if this has already been stated but white privilege started in 1619, over 400 years ago. So violence after 400 years seems reasonable, no? I wish they would stop hurting businesses, but go ahead and burn precincts and beat as many cops as you want.  400 years is a long time to make up for. 

100% wrong and offensive. Not all cops are bad and racists, most don’t deserve beatings. This is just a ridiculous statement. My brother will likely be in LA on riot patrol Monday, I’m praying his safety.
If you condone violence against cops you are just as evil of a person who condones violence because of race.
Cops are people, they have lives and families. Promoting going out and beating random cops makes you a horrible person if you meant that.

You have every right to pray for your brothers safety, just like every black mother prayers for their children’s safety when they walk out the door every day. Ask your brother if he would have stopped the cop with his knee on the mans neck and if he’s honest he’ll tell you no, that they live by a code that they hold tight.  My father in law was a police officer and his brother as well and when we would sit talk and be honest they would tell you that their fellow officers were always protected and they all lie for each other. Times are changing because of cell phones otherwise you’d never know what really goes on. And how is grouping all police together any different than how cops group black people, Latinos, etc.  

my brother has actually been written up more than once for not following direct orders from a supervisor that he felt were not justified. Like searching someone or seizing personal property. But go ahead and keep your stereotypes and beat all cops.

You’ve just proved my point, written up for being a decent person? All I’m saying is if it’s ok for that to happen to your brother, who is one of their brothers, then just think what minority’s have dealt with their entire lives. I’m really not that awful just disgusted. When and how does it end?

No, actually you really do come across as "that awful."

cblock4life said:

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

cblock4life said:

Apologies if this has already been stated but white privilege started in 1619, over 400 years ago. So violence after 400 years seems reasonable, no? I wish they would stop hurting businesses, but go ahead and burn precincts and beat as many cops as you want.  400 years is a long time to make up for. 

"beat as many cops as you want".  Does that include the cops who are marching with the protesters?  Does that include the ones who have spoken out in no uncertain terms against Derek Chauvin's despicable actions?  You would have them beaten?  Really???

Yes. He/she has clarified several times. It’s disgusting. There are some bad cops. Most don’t deserve a beating.

Agreed.  And I say that as one, like pretty much everybody here, who is outraged at what Chauvin and the other three cops who stood by and let it happen and as one who understands the anger around this incident.  They should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.  But beat other, decent cops?  No way.    Who thinks like that? Would James Baldwin, a black man who pointed out that change has not happened in generation after generation go along with this "beat all cops" attitude?  No, I don't think so.

There are some bad black people and some good but I guess they all deserve to die....double standards people

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mace1229 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 

I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 

Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...

Exactly

Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.

And you can’t think of anything between kneeling down before and NFL game and burning an entire city of innocent people and dragging cops who had nothing tondo with the incident through the city?
I can think of a lot of in between that was skipped over.

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

Apologies if this has already been stated but white privilege started in 1619, over 400 years ago. So violence after 400 years seems reasonable, no? I wish they would stop hurting businesses, but go ahead and burn precincts and beat as many cops as you want.  400 years is a long time to make up for. 

100% wrong and offensive. Not all cops are bad and racists, most don’t deserve beatings. This is just a ridiculous statement. My brother will likely be in LA on riot patrol Monday, I’m praying his safety.
If you condone violence against cops you are just as evil of a person who condones violence because of race.
Cops are people, they have lives and families. Promoting going out and beating random cops makes you a horrible person if you meant that.

If you have 10 bad cops and 1000 “good” cops that do nothing to stop the ten bad cops you have 1010 bad cops.  At this point anyone that has been looking the other way is as guilty as the racist asshole doing the crime.  

These protests are getting out of control because nothing has changed for years.  Add that you have angry white people that just want to riot coopting the movement to just have a rush of rioting.  I was out supporting my community in Austin yesterday. The BLM organizers kept telling people don’t allow the movement to get coopted by people looking for violence that gives the cops reason to shoot and gives the news crews the footage they need to delegitimize our movement.  Eventually things started getting crazy because the opportunists started stirring the anger which when you have a lot of angry people isn’t hard to do.  We left when the pepper spray and rubber bullets started Flying but there were four hours of peaceful protests before bad actors took over and started throwing water bottles at cops.  As night wore on things got crazier.

the organizers of today’s “Justice for them all” march planned in Austin cancelled because they felt that their non violent protest was going to be taken over by the same group of largely white thrill seekers and couldn’t assure everyone’s safety.

so here we are you have white cops causing horrific problems and then you have white people stirring shit up and keeping peaceful protests from actually happening(at least in my city). What options are there. My black family in friends still have to live with clear and present stress everyday even after years of peaceful protests that have largely been talked as if they are overblown and that the problems of the black community aren’t as bad as people say.

Glad to see someone actually gets it.  So you think all these people who don’t get it turn their backs when WMA is sung at a concert?  He’ll no, there’re all singing and jumping around.  

rgambs said:

mcgruff10 said:

@tbergs I am almost positive you are from Minnesota.  Question, is Minneapolis pretty racist or is this a isolated incident?  Were you surprised this happened?

I can't speak on Minnesota personally, but Philando Castille's murderer walked free and that seems like it was just yesterday.

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

mcgruff10 said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

cblock4life said:

Apologies if this has already been stated but white privilege started in 1619, over 400 years ago. So violence after 400 years seems reasonable, no? I wish they would stop hurting businesses, but go ahead and burn precincts and beat as many cops as you want.  400 years is a long time to make up for. 

"beat as many cops as you want".  Does that include the cops who are marching with the protesters?  Does that include the ones who have spoken out in no uncertain terms against Derek Chauvin's despicable actions?  You would have them beaten?  Really???

Yes. He/she has clarified several times. It’s disgusting. There are some bad cops. Most don’t deserve a beating.

Correct.  just like the vast of majority of protestors are good people protesting peacefully.  I was watching CNN last night and many protestors were saying that the looters and rioters don't represent them and were asking them to stop.  

NYPD just plowed into a group of protesters. deserved, justified?  I’m sure all you cop lovers will agree that it’s justified 

That was wrong. I agree completely with what the mayor said, and I rarely do. 

But what do people expect? You have crowds chanting kill white people. You have cops being dragged through a street and beaten. You have police cars being set on fire, some with police in them. And now it is apparently acceptable to many to target cops for physical beatings that will no doubt lead to more deaths. So why is anyone surprised that when a cop car is surrounded and people start throwing stuff at it that they respond this way?
I don’t think it was right, but this isn’t surprising given the circumstances the last few days.

brianlux said:

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

mcgruff10 said:

mace1229 said:

brianlux said:

cblock4life said:

Apologies if this has already been stated but white privilege started in 1619, over 400 years ago. So violence after 400 years seems reasonable, no? I wish they would stop hurting businesses, but go ahead and burn precincts and beat as many cops as you want.  400 years is a long time to make up for. 

"beat as many cops as you want".  Does that include the cops who are marching with the protesters?  Does that include the ones who have spoken out in no uncertain terms against Derek Chauvin's despicable actions?  You would have them beaten?  Really???

Yes. He/she has clarified several times. It’s disgusting. There are some bad cops. Most don’t deserve a beating.

Correct.  just like the vast of majority of protestors are good people protesting peacefully.  I was watching CNN last night and many protestors were saying that the looters and rioters don't represent them and were asking them to stop.  

NYPD just plowed into a group of protesters. deserved, justified?  I’m sure all you cop lovers will agree that it’s justified 

That was wrong. I agree completely with what the mayor said, and I rarely do. 

But what do people expect? You have crowds chanting kill white people. You have cops being dragged through a street and beaten. You have police cars being set on fire, some with police in them. And now it is apparently acceptable to many to target cops for physical beatings that will no doubt lead to more deaths. So why is anyone surprised that when a cop car is surrounded and people start throwing stuff at it that they respond this way?
I don’t think it was right, but this isn’t surprising given the circumstances the last few days.

Did I miss something?  The video I saw showed the first cop car being attacked and a seconds comes along and moves through the crowd making it possible for both cars to get away. I don't see anyone in that video being run over or injured.  I say "moves through the crowd" as opposed to "plowed into a group of protesters".   That what I saw anyway.  Plowing into a crowd with a car would injure or kill someone, right?  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

brianlux said:

static111 said:

cblock4life said:

static111 said:

mace1229 said:

HesCalledDyer said:

PJPOWER said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJPOWER said:

oftenreading said:

Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 

I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 

Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...

Exactly

Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.

And you can’t think of anything between kneeling down before and NFL game and burning an entire city of innocent people and dragging cops who had nothing tondo with the incident through the city?
I can think of a lot of in between that was skipped over.

mace1229 said:

cblock4life said:

Apologies if this has already been stated but white privilege started in 1619, over 400 years ago. So violence after 400 years seems reasonable, no? I wish they would stop hurting businesses, but go ahead and burn precincts and beat as many cops as you want.  400 years is a long time to make up for. 

100% wrong and offensive. Not all cops are bad and racists, most don’t deserve beatings. This is just a ridiculous statement. My brother will likely be in LA on riot patrol Monday, I’m praying his safety.
If you condone violence against cops you are just as evil of a person who condones violence because of race.
Cops are people, they have lives and families. Promoting going out and beating random cops makes you a horrible person if you meant that.

If you have 10 bad cops and 1000 “good” cops that do nothing to stop the ten bad cops you have 1010 bad cops.  At this point anyone that has been looking the other way is as guilty as the racist asshole doing the crime.  

These protests are getting out of control because nothing has changed for years.  Add that you have angry white people that just want to riot coopting the movement to just have a rush of rioting.  I was out supporting my community in Austin yesterday. The BLM organizers kept telling people don’t allow the movement to get coopted by people looking for violence that gives the cops reason to shoot and gives the news crews the footage they need to delegitimize our movement.  Eventually things started getting crazy because the opportunists started stirring the anger which when you have a lot of angry people isn’t hard to do.  We left when the pepper spray and rubber bullets started Flying but there were four hours of peaceful protests before bad actors took over and started throwing water bottles at cops.  As night wore on things got crazier.

the organizers of today’s “Justice for them all” march planned in Austin cancelled because they felt that their non violent protest was going to be taken over by the same group of largely white thrill seekers and couldn’t assure everyone’s safety.

so here we are you have white cops causing horrific problems and then you have white people stirring shit up and keeping peaceful protests from actually happening(at least in my city). What options are there. My black family in friends still have to live with clear and present stress everyday even after years of peaceful protests that have largely been talked as if they are overblown and that the problems of the black community aren’t as bad as people say.

Glad to see someone actually gets it.  So you think all these people who don’t get it turn their backs when WMA is sung at a concert?  He’ll no, there’re all singing and jumping around.  

It’s sad and I think that a lot of people lack any real connection to the black community through family or deep friendships.  I’m not saying I know what the exact right thing to do is, but I listen to what I’m told by t he POC in my life and support them because their struggles are real and very ignored and downplayed.  It’s disgusting and I’m only sorry that I can’t do more to help from my end.

You guys apparently haven't seen the clips from Camden and Flint where cops are marching with the marches.