White Privilege

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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    It’s starting to look like this could be the civil war MAGA has always wanted.  Who could have seen this happening in a country that exists in the image of a man that needs domestic enemies to thrive?

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/pkyb9b/far-right-extremists-are-hoping-to-turn-the-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war?fbclid=IwAR1yvu-ERCybrMnbUuCzPz2QVzlfwJ-8-X38eOeeuQx89E0t7ANPo3XWff0
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I am so disappointed in my fellow Angelenos. I can hear them through the window. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,831
    I understand the term “White privilege” but never really cared for it.  All the things it stands for is the base, the normal, so it’s not privilege. 

    But I get that it’s just an attempt to help those that have that base condition to recognize that not everyone has that base condition.

    Of all the privilege I have as a white person, the fewer interaction with police and the ability to go out in my neighborhood, even through new construction, and not actually be worried are easily the best. To think that black people get stopped and harassed by police for everything and lots of times nothing and the fact they have fear walking in their neighborhood is sick and sad. 


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  • RideRick
    RideRick Hoorn Posts: 703
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    Let them then start with your house. Hell yeah. 
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  • mickeyrat
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    RideRick said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    Let them then start with your house. Hell yeah. 
    Nice.
    Wishing a fellow 10c member's house burns down.
    Wtf
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,831
    F Me In The Brain said:
    RideRick said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    Let them then start with your house. Hell yeah. 
    Nice.
    Wishing a fellow 10c member's house burns down.
    Wtf
    Hahahaha cherry picking here a little? Dude said “burn it all down”... but go ahead and pretend like the response to try and get him to think how that nonsense could effect him Is worse. 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
    cincybearcat said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    RideRick said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    Let them then start with your house. Hell yeah. 
    Nice.
    Wishing a fellow 10c member's house burns down.
    Wtf
    Hahahaha cherry picking here a little? Dude said “burn it all down”... but go ahead and pretend like the response to try and get him to think how that nonsense could effect him Is worse. 
    Haaaaa. Seriously 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    Glad it makes you guys laugh.
    I hope nobody burns either of your homes down - stay safe.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    cincybearcat said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    RideRick said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    Let them then start with your house. Hell yeah. 
    Nice.
    Wishing a fellow 10c member's house burns down.
    Wtf
    Hahahaha cherry picking here a little? Dude said “burn it all down”... but go ahead and pretend like the response to try and get him to think how that nonsense could effect him Is worse. 
    Protestors I respect and applaud.  Looters and rioters no way.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    And you can’t think of anything between kneeling down before and NFL game and burning an entire city of innocent people and dragging cops who had nothing tondo with the incident through the city?
    I can think of a lot of in between that was skipped over.
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    mace1229 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    And you can’t think of anything between kneeling down before and NFL game and burning an entire city of innocent people and dragging cops who had nothing tondo with the incident through the city?
    I can think of a lot of in between that was skipped over.
    100% agreed. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    mace1229 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    And you can’t think of anything between kneeling down before and NFL game and burning an entire city of innocent people and dragging cops who had nothing tondo with the incident through the city?
    I can think of a lot of in between that was skipped over.
    Well said Mace. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Skipped over? 

    No. There have been so many other protests and social actions taken over the years and decades that haven’t led to change. In fact, some of the people on these boards complained about those ones, too. I remember how annoyed people were over roads being peacefully blocked. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    edited May 2020
    oftenreading said:
    Skipped over? 

    No. There have been so many other protests and social actions taken over the years and decades that haven’t led to change. In fact, some of the people on these boards complained about those ones, too. I remember how annoyed people were over roads being peacefully blocked. 
    Well that was what the comment I responded to stated. Since kneeling didn’t works let’s burn down the city.
    But now that you bring it up, have they been consistent? I don’t believe so. Those protests on a large scale blocking freeways are one weekend every few years. Can’t really expect that to be very effective. 
    So yeah, I still think there is a lot of ideas skipped over if you think riots, looting and arson are the next step in your voice.
    When teachers strike they don’t march on the capital 1 afternoon and expect change. They do it until the increase the education budget. Sometimes it takes weeks or months of consistent striking, marching and picketing on the capital steps. Not one weekend every few years then jump to burning down buildings when that doesn’t work.
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,543
    mace1229 said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    oftenreading said:
    Those who are objecting to the protests are also "condoning violence"; it's just that it's police violence that they're condoning. Because it's a certainty that other methods have not been effective in combating police violence. 
    I guess you’ve got to be okay with store owners using violence to combat the looters, etc, etc, etc 
    Yup.  Protesting is not burning and looting...
    Exactly
    Well, they've tried peacefully protesting (e.g. Kaepernick's anthem kneeling) and white amerikkka has a problem with that, too, so... protesting is now burning and looting. :i_dunno: I say go for it! Burn it all down.  Start over.
    And you can’t think of anything between kneeling down before and NFL game and burning an entire city of innocent people and dragging cops who had nothing tondo with the incident through the city?
    I can think of a lot of in between that was skipped over.
    This clip has been making the rounds the past few days. I think its a worthy response to this. 

    https://youtu.be/OCUlE5ldPvM


    People had their shot to get on board with Kap a few years ago. Yet still more Blacks were murdered by the police. More peaceful rallies, marches and protests happened in response to those tragedies too, and yet it still keeps happening. It sucks that theres is so much chaos and destruction. But maybe now they have peoples ears, eyes, and hearts.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Holy fuck. This is mind boggling. This board really is a microcosm of the larger society. Somehow a whole bunch of people have either failed to remember or never even recognized in the first place literally decades of marches, rallies, sit-ins, vigils, conferences and the like. And when frustration builds and it blows over into violence, you’re shocked and the impulse is to just crack down again. 

    Holy fuck. 
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mace1229 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Skipped over? 

    No. There have been so many other protests and social actions taken over the years and decades that haven’t led to change. In fact, some of the people on these boards complained about those ones, too. I remember how annoyed people were over roads being peacefully blocked. 
    Well that was what the comment I responded to stated. Since kneeling didn’t works let’s burn down the city.
    But now that you bring it up, have they been consistent? I don’t believe so. Those protests on a large scale blocking freeways are one weekend every few years. Can’t really expect that to be very effective. 
    So yeah, I still think there is a lot of ideas skipped over if you think riots, looting and arson are the next step in your voice.
    When teachers strike they don’t march on the capital 1 afternoon and expect change. They do it until the increase the education budget. Sometimes it takes weeks or months of consistent striking, marching and picketing on the capital steps. Not one weekend every few years then jump to burning down buildings when that doesn’t work.
    Are you really comparing teacher strikes to this? Teachers have all the power. They strike and the kids do not get to go to school and learn. Same when the nurses strike or the transportation system. They all have power to hold over the groups they are striking against. What do these protesters have that they can use that is comparable?  
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    “They only protest on a weekend every few years” basically means “those black people are to blame for not protesting more effectively”. 

    And some people deny the existence of white privilege. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,825
    edited May 2020
    PJNB said:
    mace1229 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Skipped over? 

    No. There have been so many other protests and social actions taken over the years and decades that haven’t led to change. In fact, some of the people on these boards complained about those ones, too. I remember how annoyed people were over roads being peacefully blocked. 
    Well that was what the comment I responded to stated. Since kneeling didn’t works let’s burn down the city.
    But now that you bring it up, have they been consistent? I don’t believe so. Those protests on a large scale blocking freeways are one weekend every few years. Can’t really expect that to be very effective. 
    So yeah, I still think there is a lot of ideas skipped over if you think riots, looting and arson are the next step in your voice.
    When teachers strike they don’t march on the capital 1 afternoon and expect change. They do it until the increase the education budget. Sometimes it takes weeks or months of consistent striking, marching and picketing on the capital steps. Not one weekend every few years then jump to burning down buildings when that doesn’t work.
    Are you really comparing teacher strikes to this? Teachers have all the power. They strike and the kids do not get to go to school and learn. Same when the nurses strike or the transportation system. They all have power to hold over the groups they are striking against. What do these protesters have that they can use that is comparable?  
    No I wasn’t comparing them. I was just saying even with teacher strikes, someone who as you claim had all the power, can still take months.

    Can you give me an example of a large scar peaceful protest, other than the NFL kneeling, that has lasted consistently for months?
    There probably have been some. But nothing as disruptive as marching on a freeway would have been. Kneeling at the NFL disrupts no one.

    I don’t think there has been a large scale peaceful police protest that was disruptive to every day life like on the scale of teacher strikes. And there can be. March on a major freeway every morning during rushour. That would be peaceful and more effective than burning down a city.

    You can’t protest for a weekend and expect change. And that is often (not always) the case.
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