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Poncier said:But he doesn't have to be at his all pro level.
Evans is the all pro talent in that offense. Who are you going to double? Evans has to be first priority, then Godwin. Gronk (and Brate and their slot guy) will have single coverage. Gronk will be able to beat most linebacker coverage or overpower most safety coverage when its just one guy.
The key will be the O-line. If they hold up and give Brady time, he'll have guys open all over the place.
We saw him last year often struggle to get the ball downfield. He missed open receivers, would bail quickly on plays. The only things he could hit with regularity was the little short outs to Edelman and screens/dump offs to White.
Brady in Tampa Bay looks like a great headline and is sexy.... but there are like 25 QBs in the NFL, probably more with better physical tools right now. That is why the Patriots chose to punt on him. Outside of maybe 2 games, they were winning despite Brady, not because of him.
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cdthomas1981 said:MayDay10 said:Will/can Gronkowski even be good? Takes a year off. Off the steroids so he is like 1/5th his playing size. He will cycle on again, but training activities an such begin soon. Not to mention, he was becoming extremely injury prone even 2 years ago.
I could easily see Tampa Bay being the 2019 Browns disappointment of 2020. I remember how shot Brady's arm looked most of the time last year. He looked near the end. As we have seen with QBs, the wall hits and doesnt relent. Tampa doesnt offer a particularly good offensive line, and a poor defense. Some shiny toys, 2 of them are very long in the tooth.0 -
MayDay10 said:Poncier said:But he doesn't have to be at his all pro level.
Evans is the all pro talent in that offense. Who are you going to double? Evans has to be first priority, then Godwin. Gronk (and Brate and their slot guy) will have single coverage. Gronk will be able to beat most linebacker coverage or overpower most safety coverage when its just one guy.
The key will be the O-line. If they hold up and give Brady time, he'll have guys open all over the place.
We saw him last year often struggle to get the ball downfield. He missed open receivers, would bail quickly on plays. The only things he could hit with regularity was the little short outs to Edelman and screens/dump offs to White.
Brady in Tampa Bay looks like a great headline and is sexy.... but there are like 25 QBs in the NFL, probably more with better physical tools right now. That is why the Patriots chose to punt on him. Outside of maybe 2 games, they were winning despite Brady, not because of him.
Last year outside of Edelman and White, there was nobody who could get open on the team with any consistency. The rookies were running the wrong routes (Jakobi Meyers guilty of this numerous times) and the crap they had at TE couldn't separate at all.
He bailed cause he had nowhere to go with the ball.
Now clearly he's not 2007 Brady, but if we get a 16 game season I expect at least 40 TD passes with those weapons.This weekend we rock Portland0 -
Maybe this is all an elaborate ploy by Brady to associate TB with his name ... because I have no idea if anyone is talking about Tampa Bay or Tom Brady anymore when using TB and discussing the Bucs. There could be some deep TB12 conspiracy shit going on here ...
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Poncier said:MayDay10 said:Poncier said:But he doesn't have to be at his all pro level.
Evans is the all pro talent in that offense. Who are you going to double? Evans has to be first priority, then Godwin. Gronk (and Brate and their slot guy) will have single coverage. Gronk will be able to beat most linebacker coverage or overpower most safety coverage when its just one guy.
The key will be the O-line. If they hold up and give Brady time, he'll have guys open all over the place.
We saw him last year often struggle to get the ball downfield. He missed open receivers, would bail quickly on plays. The only things he could hit with regularity was the little short outs to Edelman and screens/dump offs to White.
Brady in Tampa Bay looks like a great headline and is sexy.... but there are like 25 QBs in the NFL, probably more with better physical tools right now. That is why the Patriots chose to punt on him. Outside of maybe 2 games, they were winning despite Brady, not because of him.
Last year outside of Edelman and White, there was nobody who could get open on the team with any consistency. The rookies were running the wrong routes (Jakobi Meyers guilty of this numerous times) and the crap they had at TE couldn't separate at all.
He bailed cause he had nowhere to go with the ball.
Now clearly he's not 2007 Brady, but if we get a 16 game season I expect at least 40 TD passes with those weapons.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:Poncier said:MayDay10 said:Poncier said:But he doesn't have to be at his all pro level.
Evans is the all pro talent in that offense. Who are you going to double? Evans has to be first priority, then Godwin. Gronk (and Brate and their slot guy) will have single coverage. Gronk will be able to beat most linebacker coverage or overpower most safety coverage when its just one guy.
The key will be the O-line. If they hold up and give Brady time, he'll have guys open all over the place.
We saw him last year often struggle to get the ball downfield. He missed open receivers, would bail quickly on plays. The only things he could hit with regularity was the little short outs to Edelman and screens/dump offs to White.
Brady in Tampa Bay looks like a great headline and is sexy.... but there are like 25 QBs in the NFL, probably more with better physical tools right now. That is why the Patriots chose to punt on him. Outside of maybe 2 games, they were winning despite Brady, not because of him.
Last year outside of Edelman and White, there was nobody who could get open on the team with any consistency. The rookies were running the wrong routes (Jakobi Meyers guilty of this numerous times) and the crap they had at TE couldn't separate at all.
He bailed cause he had nowhere to go with the ball.
Now clearly he's not 2007 Brady, but if we get a 16 game season I expect at least 40 TD passes with those weapons.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:The Juggler said:Poncier said:MayDay10 said:Poncier said:But he doesn't have to be at his all pro level.
Evans is the all pro talent in that offense. Who are you going to double? Evans has to be first priority, then Godwin. Gronk (and Brate and their slot guy) will have single coverage. Gronk will be able to beat most linebacker coverage or overpower most safety coverage when its just one guy.
The key will be the O-line. If they hold up and give Brady time, he'll have guys open all over the place.
We saw him last year often struggle to get the ball downfield. He missed open receivers, would bail quickly on plays. The only things he could hit with regularity was the little short outs to Edelman and screens/dump offs to White.
Brady in Tampa Bay looks like a great headline and is sexy.... but there are like 25 QBs in the NFL, probably more with better physical tools right now. That is why the Patriots chose to punt on him. Outside of maybe 2 games, they were winning despite Brady, not because of him.
Last year outside of Edelman and White, there was nobody who could get open on the team with any consistency. The rookies were running the wrong routes (Jakobi Meyers guilty of this numerous times) and the crap they had at TE couldn't separate at all.
He bailed cause he had nowhere to go with the ball.
Now clearly he's not 2007 Brady, but if we get a 16 game season I expect at least 40 TD passes with those weapons.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:Halifax2TheMax said:The Juggler said:Poncier said:MayDay10 said:Poncier said:But he doesn't have to be at his all pro level.
Evans is the all pro talent in that offense. Who are you going to double? Evans has to be first priority, then Godwin. Gronk (and Brate and their slot guy) will have single coverage. Gronk will be able to beat most linebacker coverage or overpower most safety coverage when its just one guy.
The key will be the O-line. If they hold up and give Brady time, he'll have guys open all over the place.
We saw him last year often struggle to get the ball downfield. He missed open receivers, would bail quickly on plays. The only things he could hit with regularity was the little short outs to Edelman and screens/dump offs to White.
Brady in Tampa Bay looks like a great headline and is sexy.... but there are like 25 QBs in the NFL, probably more with better physical tools right now. That is why the Patriots chose to punt on him. Outside of maybe 2 games, they were winning despite Brady, not because of him.
Last year outside of Edelman and White, there was nobody who could get open on the team with any consistency. The rookies were running the wrong routes (Jakobi Meyers guilty of this numerous times) and the crap they had at TE couldn't separate at all.
He bailed cause he had nowhere to go with the ball.
Now clearly he's not 2007 Brady, but if we get a 16 game season I expect at least 40 TD passes with those weapons.
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Finally a live sporting even besides wrestling. Draft starts at 8 right?
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PATres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
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Indifference71 said:Brady is going to have Evans, Godwin and Gronk to throw to next year. If this season actually happens that's going to be a great offense. Bucs fans don't deserve a team like this....but also do Bucs fans even exist?? That stadium is always half empty and majority people there are rooting for the road team. But I guess that doesn't matter since even if the NFL takes place this year I highly doubt there will be any fans there.
contract the bucs, fins, marlins, rays and whatever the hockey team is.If I had known then what I know now...
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packers trade up for a qb???Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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Interesting first round. Loved the Niners' getting two guys who can start and contribute right away.
Laughed out loud (a lot) at the Packers.
I then read that this was the first skill position player they used a first round pick on since Rodgers on 2005.
Laughed some more. (Obviously I don't much like the Packers)
Liked the reactions of the kids/families in their homes.
Didn't like it going past midnight but oh well.Post edited by F Me In The Brain onThe love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
I just realized this morning that the draft had started.
I don’t see herbert or love amounting to much.If I had known then what I know now...
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VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14Philly I & II, 16Denver 22
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thought there would be a few more trades...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...0
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Wobbie said:I just realized this morning that the draft had started.
I don’t see herbert or love amounting to much.
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cdthomas1981 said:Winner for top ward-robe (pun intended).Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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Biggest loser CeeDee Lambs (soon to be ex) girlfriend?...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...0
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pjsteelerfan said:Biggest loser CeeDee Lambs (soon to be ex) girlfriend?
My thought was similar on Ruggs' lady friend....The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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