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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,534
    Poncier said:
    So, Justin Tucker is a student of the Deshaun Watson playbook.
    Feel like you're leaving someone out.

    Wasn't there also an owner of an NFL team who had an issue at a massage parlor a few years back? 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,603
    Guessing him being worried about an investigation and exposure explains why he sucked this year.

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,411
    Poncier said:
    So, Justin Tucker is a student of the Deshaun Watson playbook.
    Feel like you're leaving someone out.

    Wasn't there also an owner of an NFL team who had an issue at a massage parlor a few years back? 
    Krafty Bob?
    Yes. Difference is Krafty Bob was paying for release, not assaulting unsuspecting masseuses.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,671
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    So, Justin Tucker is a student of the Deshaun Watson playbook.
    Feel like you're leaving someone out.

    Wasn't there also an owner of an NFL team who had an issue at a massage parlor a few years back? 
    Krafty Bob?
    Yes. Difference is Krafty Bob was paying for release, not assaulting unsuspecting masseuses.
    Poncier has a point.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,671
    I just read Tucker’s attorneys said the accusations “are impossible to prove.” Doesn’t really ring of innocence.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,228
    Wobbie said:
    I just read Tucker’s attorneys said the accusations “are impossible to prove.” Doesn’t really ring of innocence.
    yeah, you cant prove it is another way of saying, yeah I did it what are you going to do about it.

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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,310
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,671
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
    I wondered the same…altho this was a little unfair.


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,257
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
    Hired his degenerative son who had already served time for drug felonies and operating a “drug mart” out of Andy’s home along with his other son. Then Andy hires him on the coaching staff and he eventually critically injures a little girl while driving intoxicated. 

    That’s terrible decision making by Reid and he bares responsibility. Why did his son get a second chance and some players don’t?  Would this guy have a job in the league if not for his father? I couldn’t hire him at my company as he could never be bonded. 
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,310
    edited January 31
    Certainly a stretch that's for sure. I'm sure he'd rather have his son not dead as opposed to his other son, in whatever capacity and effort that takes. I'm sure he's also not happy of what his currently undead son did either, but boy.... yeesh.

    Certainly wouldn't compare Andy's direct actions to that of Kareem Hunt or Ty Hill beating women, or Deshaun Watson or Justin Tucker performing sexual assault.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,209
    Certainly a stretch that's for sure. I'm sure he'd rather have his son not dead as opposed to his other son, in whatever capacity and effort that takes. I'm sure he's also not happy of what his currently undead son did either, but boy.... yeesh.

    Certainly wouldn't compare Andy's direct actions to that of Kareem Hunt or Ty Hill beating women, or Deshaun Watson or Justin Tucker performing sexual assault.
    Performing? Odd description. Why not “committing?” Lack of criminal convictions? Was the perp on stage or set?

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,257
    Certainly a stretch that's for sure. I'm sure he'd rather have his son not dead as opposed to his other son, in whatever capacity and effort that takes. I'm sure he's also not happy of what his currently undead son did either, but boy.... yeesh.

    Certainly wouldn't compare Andy's direct actions to that of Kareem Hunt or Ty Hill beating women, or Deshaun Watson or Justin Tucker performing sexual assault.
    Really? Enabling your kids to sell hard drugs, be addicts and critically injuring a child is not as bad as Watson hitting on women and making lewd advances? I would disagree. 
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,310
    Lol boy...I assume your tongue can touch your back because that is quite the stretch
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,257
    Lol boy...I assume your tongue can touch your back because that is quite the stretch
    They literally ran a drug mart out of Andy’s house. That’s the judge’s words at the sentencing. Would you know if your kids were distributing out of your house? I think I would. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,998
    edited January 31
    mrussel1 said:
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
    Hired his degenerative son who had already served time for drug felonies and operating a “drug mart” out of Andy’s home along with his other son. Then Andy hires him on the coaching staff and he eventually critically injures a little girl while driving intoxicated. 

    That’s terrible decision making by Reid and he bares responsibility. Why did his son get a second chance and some players don’t?  Would this guy have a job in the league if not for his father? I couldn’t hire him at my company as he could never be bonded. 
    He was drinking at a team facility too, before getting behind the wheel & critically injuring that little girl.

    The victim's family wanted Brett Reid to stand trial, but he struck a deal w/ prosecutors IIRC; the recommended sentence was 7 years, the prosecution suggested 4, and the judge gave him 3. Then the governor commuted his prison sentence. 

    What a country. 

    Imagine being the family of the little girl who was left with severe brain injuries. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,228
    mrussel1 said:
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
    Hired his degenerative son who had already served time for drug felonies and operating a “drug mart” out of Andy’s home along with his other son. Then Andy hires him on the coaching staff and he eventually critically injures a little girl while driving intoxicated. 

    That’s terrible decision making by Reid and he bares responsibility. Why did his son get a second chance and some players don’t?  Would this guy have a job in the league if not for his father? I couldn’t hire him at my company as he could never be bonded. 
    He was drinking at a team facility too, before getting behind the wheel & critically injuring that little girl.

    The victim's family wanted Brett Reid to stand trial, but he struck a deal w/ prosecutors IIRC; the recommended sentence was 7 years, the prosecution suggested 4, and the judge gave him 3. Then the governor commuted his prison sentence. 

    What a country. 

    Imagine being the family of the little girl who was left with severe brain injuries. 

    civil suits are appropriate in situations like this. team, Papa Reid , Brett.


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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,998
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
    Hired his degenerative son who had already served time for drug felonies and operating a “drug mart” out of Andy’s home along with his other son. Then Andy hires him on the coaching staff and he eventually critically injures a little girl while driving intoxicated. 

    That’s terrible decision making by Reid and he bares responsibility. Why did his son get a second chance and some players don’t?  Would this guy have a job in the league if not for his father? I couldn’t hire him at my company as he could never be bonded. 
    He was drinking at a team facility too, before getting behind the wheel & critically injuring that little girl.

    The victim's family wanted Brett Reid to stand trial, but he struck a deal w/ prosecutors IIRC; the recommended sentence was 7 years, the prosecution suggested 4, and the judge gave him 3. Then the governor commuted his prison sentence. 

    What a country. 

    Imagine being the family of the little girl who was left with severe brain injuries. 

    civil suits are appropriate in situations like this. team, Papa Reid , Brett.


    Reading a little more about it, the family did reach a settlement w/ the organization, which of course they did. 

    The NFL has more f you money than anyone, you can bet they wanted this one to go away as quickly as possible. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,257
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
    Hired his degenerative son who had already served time for drug felonies and operating a “drug mart” out of Andy’s home along with his other son. Then Andy hires him on the coaching staff and he eventually critically injures a little girl while driving intoxicated. 

    That’s terrible decision making by Reid and he bares responsibility. Why did his son get a second chance and some players don’t?  Would this guy have a job in the league if not for his father? I couldn’t hire him at my company as he could never be bonded. 
    He was drinking at a team facility too, before getting behind the wheel & critically injuring that little girl.

    The victim's family wanted Brett Reid to stand trial, but he struck a deal w/ prosecutors IIRC; the recommended sentence was 7 years, the prosecution suggested 4, and the judge gave him 3. Then the governor commuted his prison sentence. 

    What a country. 

    Imagine being the family of the little girl who was left with severe brain injuries. 

    civil suits are appropriate in situations like this. team, Papa Reid , Brett.


    Reading a little more about it, the family did reach a settlement w/ the organization, which of course they did. 

    The NFL has more f you money than anyone, you can bet they wanted this one to go away as quickly as possible. 
    I didn't realize he got a commutation.  I mean it makes sense, considering the extremely important civic contributions Brett has made to the city.  

    Listen, I am fully in support of second chances, even for people convicted of crimes (and several of the examples called out there have no indictments, let alone convictions), but that is AFTER you serve your time, sentence, punishment, etc.  From both a Christian and historic US culture perspective, redemption is part of the American story. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,998
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
    Hired his degenerative son who had already served time for drug felonies and operating a “drug mart” out of Andy’s home along with his other son. Then Andy hires him on the coaching staff and he eventually critically injures a little girl while driving intoxicated. 

    That’s terrible decision making by Reid and he bares responsibility. Why did his son get a second chance and some players don’t?  Would this guy have a job in the league if not for his father? I couldn’t hire him at my company as he could never be bonded. 
    He was drinking at a team facility too, before getting behind the wheel & critically injuring that little girl.

    The victim's family wanted Brett Reid to stand trial, but he struck a deal w/ prosecutors IIRC; the recommended sentence was 7 years, the prosecution suggested 4, and the judge gave him 3. Then the governor commuted his prison sentence. 

    What a country. 

    Imagine being the family of the little girl who was left with severe brain injuries. 

    civil suits are appropriate in situations like this. team, Papa Reid , Brett.


    Reading a little more about it, the family did reach a settlement w/ the organization, which of course they did. 

    The NFL has more f you money than anyone, you can bet they wanted this one to go away as quickly as possible. 
    I didn't realize he got a commutation.  I mean it makes sense, considering the extremely important civic contributions Brett has made to the city.  

    Listen, I am fully in support of second chances, even for people convicted of crimes (and several of the examples called out there have no indictments, let alone convictions), but that is AFTER you serve your time, sentence, punishment, etc.  From both a Christian and historic US culture perspective, redemption is part of the American story. 
    The commutation was gross, but unsurprising ... the scales of justice tipping towards the wealthy & powerful is as much a part of the American story as anything else. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,257
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    And wait what'd Reid do? I know what Hunt and Hill did, but other than bundlerooski being on TV too much?
    Hired his degenerative son who had already served time for drug felonies and operating a “drug mart” out of Andy’s home along with his other son. Then Andy hires him on the coaching staff and he eventually critically injures a little girl while driving intoxicated. 

    That’s terrible decision making by Reid and he bares responsibility. Why did his son get a second chance and some players don’t?  Would this guy have a job in the league if not for his father? I couldn’t hire him at my company as he could never be bonded. 
    He was drinking at a team facility too, before getting behind the wheel & critically injuring that little girl.

    The victim's family wanted Brett Reid to stand trial, but he struck a deal w/ prosecutors IIRC; the recommended sentence was 7 years, the prosecution suggested 4, and the judge gave him 3. Then the governor commuted his prison sentence. 

    What a country. 

    Imagine being the family of the little girl who was left with severe brain injuries. 

    civil suits are appropriate in situations like this. team, Papa Reid , Brett.


    Reading a little more about it, the family did reach a settlement w/ the organization, which of course they did. 

    The NFL has more f you money than anyone, you can bet they wanted this one to go away as quickly as possible. 
    I didn't realize he got a commutation.  I mean it makes sense, considering the extremely important civic contributions Brett has made to the city.  

    Listen, I am fully in support of second chances, even for people convicted of crimes (and several of the examples called out there have no indictments, let alone convictions), but that is AFTER you serve your time, sentence, punishment, etc.  From both a Christian and historic US culture perspective, redemption is part of the American story. 
    The commutation was gross, but unsurprising ... the scales of justice tipping towards the wealthy & powerful is as much a part of the American story as anything else. 
    Truth.  To be fair, there's never been a society not inclined that way.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,998
    Anyway... Go Birds, I guess. 
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    Her father is an Eagles fan and she grew up as an Eagles fan she said in concert here. So she can't lose.
    and I can't wait until Kylie Kelce cheers for the Eagles in Taylor's suite.  
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,534
    Anyway... Go Birds, I guess. 

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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,787
    I just hope everybody has a good time
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,257
    MayDay10 said:
    I just hope everybody has a good time
    And no one gets hurt.  Some snacks and Capri-Sun after the game would be fun too.  
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,310
    I think this is the general sentiment this year, and I'm ok with that.


  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,787
    I really don't care.  I guess I am maybe pulling for the Eagles because no threepeat.  I don't really have any major dislike for either team or fanbase.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,998
    MayDay10 said:
    I really don't care.  I guess I am maybe pulling for the Eagles because no threepeat.  I don't really have any major dislike for either team or fanbase.  
    This is more or less where I'm at.

    I don't hate the Chiefs, if anything I tip my cap to them, they've earned their station. I don't hate the Eagles like so many other people do either... I'm pulling for them by default only because I'm sick of seeing the Chiefs in every God damn commercial. I also have a blast every time I go to Philly, so I have a soft spot for the city. 

    As a Pats fan, I'm supposed to be rooting against the Chiefs as the next dynasty, but that doesn't bother me... nothing's going to take away the joy I experienced in those moments, and if the Chiefs surpass NE, so be it. 
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 5,041
    As a 49ers fan, losing 2 Super bowls in recent years to KC stings. I will be pulling for Philly, but other than SF, I don't generally root for any other NFC teams. 
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