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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,809
    Wobbie said:
    What was that 4 Eagles games in there?

    -Fog Bowl (utterly ridiculous I have to say - nobody could see anything)
    -Pickle Juice Game
    -Shady McCoy Blizzard Bowl
    -The 1948 Blizzard Championship (honorable)

    Did I miss one?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,298
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.


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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,150
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,194
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,503
    My pre season pick is done.  Fucking Mark Andrews must have bet against me.  :lol:
    Eagles Ravens, now can't happen.


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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,700
    Poncier said:
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
    It worked against Houston.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,298
    edited January 22
    Poncier said:
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
    It worked against Houston.
    Your jinxes somehow affect the refs?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,507
    its a shame the nfl has interfered with the college playoffs and championship.
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,700
    Poncier said:
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
    It worked against Houston.
    Your jinxes somehow affect the refs?
    No it only improves Travis Kelce’s performance.  The refs are paid for separately.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    Poncier said:
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
    It worked against Houston.
    Your jinxes somehow affect the refs?
    No it only improves Travis Kelce’s performance.  The refs are paid for separately.
    It’s a great business plan, for sure. 
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,194
    Poncier said:
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
    It worked against Houston.
    Your jinxes somehow affect the refs?
    No it only improves Travis Kelce’s performance.  The refs are paid for separately.
    Should bundle and save them.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,700
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
    It worked against Houston.
    Your jinxes somehow affect the refs?
    No it only improves Travis Kelce’s performance.  The refs are paid for separately.
    Should bundle and save them.
    Gotta go all out for the three-peat bid.

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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,503
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
    It worked against Houston.
    Your jinxes somehow affect the refs?
    No it only improves Travis Kelce’s performance.  The refs are paid for separately.
    Should bundle and save them.
    Hahaha. 
    Well played.
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,294
    Poncier said:
    Poncier said:
    I said before the playoffs started it would be Philly vs. Buffalo and I can't see much reason why to move off of that.  Even though I hope I am 50% wrong on that prediction.
    Here he goes pulling that reverse jinx nonsense again.
    Nobody buys it.
    It worked against Houston.
    Your jinxes somehow affect the refs?
    No it only improves Travis Kelce’s performance.  The refs are paid for separately.
    Should bundle and save them.
    Hahaha. 
    Well played.

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,194
    Golly gee willikers, Patrick Mahomes doesn't think the Chiefs get favorable calls from the refs.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,483
    Aaron Glenn has his work cut out for him with the NYJ.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,700
    Poncier said:
    Golly gee willikers, Patrick Mahomes doesn't think the Chiefs get favorable calls from the refs.

    They don't.  When the opposing team lines up in the neutral zone they call offsides, when it clearly should be a 15-yard personal foul penalty.  That's just not fair.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    Poncier said:
    Golly gee willikers, Patrick Mahomes doesn't think the Chiefs get favorable calls from the refs.

    They don't.  When the opposing team lines up in the neutral zone they call offsides, when it clearly should be a 15-yard personal foul penalty.  That's just not fair.
    Not to split hairs, but it's "unsportsmanlike conduct" to try and cheat by giving yourself a head start.  In college, two of those means disqualification.  If the NFL weren't a bunch of pussies, they would definitely disqualify players trying to cheat against the Chiefs.  

    Just keeping it real.  
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,809
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.

    The other dumb thing (nothing to do with the Chiefs) is the delay of game. In any other sport when the clock hits zero, it's over. Here, it's hits zero, everyone sees it, yet the whole stadium doesn't know if it's a penalty. Who the hell came up with this?
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,700
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Golly gee willikers, Patrick Mahomes doesn't think the Chiefs get favorable calls from the refs.

    They don't.  When the opposing team lines up in the neutral zone they call offsides, when it clearly should be a 15-yard personal foul penalty.  That's just not fair.
    Not to split hairs, but it's "unsportsmanlike conduct" to try and cheat by giving yourself a head start.  In college, two of those means disqualification.  If the NFL weren't a bunch of pussies, they would definitely disqualify players trying to cheat against the Chiefs.  

    Just keeping it real.  

    I'm being sarcastic...self deprecating. 
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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,700
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.

    The other dumb thing (nothing to do with the Chiefs) is the delay of game. In any other sport when the clock hits zero, it's over. Here, it's hits zero, everyone sees it, yet the whole stadium doesn't know if it's a penalty. Who the hell came up with this?

    I don't understand why you can't put a buzzer, or a light on the play clock similar to the shot clock in basketball.  The protocol is to look at the clock and when it hits zero and your eye level hits the snap, if the ball is snapping when you move your eyes then it's not a penalty.  Just weird.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    mrussel1 said:
    Poncier said:
    Golly gee willikers, Patrick Mahomes doesn't think the Chiefs get favorable calls from the refs.

    They don't.  When the opposing team lines up in the neutral zone they call offsides, when it clearly should be a 15-yard personal foul penalty.  That's just not fair.
    Not to split hairs, but it's "unsportsmanlike conduct" to try and cheat by giving yourself a head start.  In college, two of those means disqualification.  If the NFL weren't a bunch of pussies, they would definitely disqualify players trying to cheat against the Chiefs.  

    Just keeping it real.  

    I'm being sarcastic...self deprecating. 
    I recognize that.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,738
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.
    Agreed.

     If QBs are going to get special treatment even as runners, there should be some limitations put on what they can & can't do. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.
    Agreed.

     If QBs are going to get special treatment even as runners, there should be some limitations put on what they can & can't do. 
    I don't know that I agree.  In hockey, the dive is almost never called.  I don't recall a time where that was a huge issue and I have been watching hockey religiously for a very long time.  The players seem to take care of the diving issue on their own.  

    That being said, I do think that personal fouls should be part of those instant reviews.  I know it's a subjective penalty, but if they at least review to see whether the hit was to the head, the facemask was grabbed or not or if the contact started inbound or out of bounds, that is pretty objective.  It would be hard to officiate whether the force of the hit was excessive through replay, but not whether the action actually occurred. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,738
    mrussel1 said:
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.
    Agreed.

     If QBs are going to get special treatment even as runners, there should be some limitations put on what they can & can't do. 
    I don't know that I agree.  In hockey, the dive is almost never called.  I don't recall a time where that was a huge issue and I have been watching hockey religiously for a very long time.  The players seem to take care of the diving issue on their own.  

    That being said, I do think that personal fouls should be part of those instant reviews.  I know it's a subjective penalty, but if they at least review to see whether the hit was to the head, the facemask was grabbed or not or if the contact started inbound or out of bounds, that is pretty objective.  It would be hard to officiate whether the force of the hit was excessive through replay, but not whether the action actually occurred. 
    I'm all for expanding coaches' challenge to include penalties / personal fouls. 

    & I'm less talking about the diving as I am talking about bush league shit like Mahomes pulling up short of the out of bounds line trying to induce a hit for an extra 15 yards. The flop after the fact is just embarrassing and should be beneath him. I'm not going to root for him to get knocked into oblivion the next time he does that, but I also can't say it wouldn't be deserved. 

    It's also tough for defenders to know if a running QB is going into a slide or juking an incoming defender... IDK how it could be policed, but it's hard to defend against as the current rules stand. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    mrussel1 said:
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.
    Agreed.

     If QBs are going to get special treatment even as runners, there should be some limitations put on what they can & can't do. 
    I don't know that I agree.  In hockey, the dive is almost never called.  I don't recall a time where that was a huge issue and I have been watching hockey religiously for a very long time.  The players seem to take care of the diving issue on their own.  

    That being said, I do think that personal fouls should be part of those instant reviews.  I know it's a subjective penalty, but if they at least review to see whether the hit was to the head, the facemask was grabbed or not or if the contact started inbound or out of bounds, that is pretty objective.  It would be hard to officiate whether the force of the hit was excessive through replay, but not whether the action actually occurred. 
    I'm all for expanding coaches' challenge to include penalties / personal fouls. 

    & I'm less talking about the diving as I am talking about bush league shit like Mahomes pulling up short of the out of bounds line trying to induce a hit for an extra 15 yards. The flop after the fact is just embarrassing and should be beneath him. I'm not going to root for him to get knocked into oblivion the next time he does that, but I also can't say it wouldn't be deserved. 

    It's also tough for defenders to know if a running QB is going into a slide or juking an incoming defender... IDK how it could be policed, but it's hard to defend against as the current rules stand. 
    QB's fake running and then go down to draw the hit as well.  When I say QBs, I don't mean Josh Allen.  I'm not sure how you get rid of that, but it needs to be gone.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,738
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.
    Agreed.

     If QBs are going to get special treatment even as runners, there should be some limitations put on what they can & can't do. 
    I don't know that I agree.  In hockey, the dive is almost never called.  I don't recall a time where that was a huge issue and I have been watching hockey religiously for a very long time.  The players seem to take care of the diving issue on their own.  

    That being said, I do think that personal fouls should be part of those instant reviews.  I know it's a subjective penalty, but if they at least review to see whether the hit was to the head, the facemask was grabbed or not or if the contact started inbound or out of bounds, that is pretty objective.  It would be hard to officiate whether the force of the hit was excessive through replay, but not whether the action actually occurred. 
    I'm all for expanding coaches' challenge to include penalties / personal fouls. 

    & I'm less talking about the diving as I am talking about bush league shit like Mahomes pulling up short of the out of bounds line trying to induce a hit for an extra 15 yards. The flop after the fact is just embarrassing and should be beneath him. I'm not going to root for him to get knocked into oblivion the next time he does that, but I also can't say it wouldn't be deserved. 

    It's also tough for defenders to know if a running QB is going into a slide or juking an incoming defender... IDK how it could be policed, but it's hard to defend against as the current rules stand. 
    QB's fake running and then go down to draw the hit as well.  When I say QBs, I don't mean Josh Allen.  I'm not sure how you get rid of that, but it needs to be gone.  
    I'm aware, and I think we're on the same page, bringing us back to my original point:  If QBs are going to get special treatment even as runners, there should be some limitations put on what they can & can't do. 

    I don't know HOW you police it, but it's taking away form the game. 
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,809
    This would be worth doing to Mahomes. Would get a penalty (although it looks like a legal hit), but be 100% worth it. And yeah, nobody was apologizing, At All.

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  • Glorified KCGlorified KC KCMO Native Posts: 2,700
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.
    Agreed.

     If QBs are going to get special treatment even as runners, there should be some limitations put on what they can & can't do. 
    I don't know that I agree.  In hockey, the dive is almost never called.  I don't recall a time where that was a huge issue and I have been watching hockey religiously for a very long time.  The players seem to take care of the diving issue on their own.  

    That being said, I do think that personal fouls should be part of those instant reviews.  I know it's a subjective penalty, but if they at least review to see whether the hit was to the head, the facemask was grabbed or not or if the contact started inbound or out of bounds, that is pretty objective.  It would be hard to officiate whether the force of the hit was excessive through replay, but not whether the action actually occurred. 
    I'm all for expanding coaches' challenge to include penalties / personal fouls. 

    & I'm less talking about the diving as I am talking about bush league shit like Mahomes pulling up short of the out of bounds line trying to induce a hit for an extra 15 yards. The flop after the fact is just embarrassing and should be beneath him. I'm not going to root for him to get knocked into oblivion the next time he does that, but I also can't say it wouldn't be deserved. 

    It's also tough for defenders to know if a running QB is going into a slide or juking an incoming defender... IDK how it could be policed, but it's hard to defend against as the current rules stand. 
    QB's fake running and then go down to draw the hit as well.  When I say QBs, I don't mean Josh Allen.  I'm not sure how you get rid of that, but it needs to be gone.  

    Are you insinuating Josh Allen hasn't flopped to try to gain 15 yards?


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,046
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The fake slide needs to be a 15-yarder on the QB. The flailing out of bounds should be an unsportsmanlike. They have that in the NHL, although it's nullified that it's almost always called along with the penalty itself. Finally, all the 15-yard penalties should be reviewed by replay assist.
    Agreed.

     If QBs are going to get special treatment even as runners, there should be some limitations put on what they can & can't do. 
    I don't know that I agree.  In hockey, the dive is almost never called.  I don't recall a time where that was a huge issue and I have been watching hockey religiously for a very long time.  The players seem to take care of the diving issue on their own.  

    That being said, I do think that personal fouls should be part of those instant reviews.  I know it's a subjective penalty, but if they at least review to see whether the hit was to the head, the facemask was grabbed or not or if the contact started inbound or out of bounds, that is pretty objective.  It would be hard to officiate whether the force of the hit was excessive through replay, but not whether the action actually occurred. 
    I'm all for expanding coaches' challenge to include penalties / personal fouls. 

    & I'm less talking about the diving as I am talking about bush league shit like Mahomes pulling up short of the out of bounds line trying to induce a hit for an extra 15 yards. The flop after the fact is just embarrassing and should be beneath him. I'm not going to root for him to get knocked into oblivion the next time he does that, but I also can't say it wouldn't be deserved. 

    It's also tough for defenders to know if a running QB is going into a slide or juking an incoming defender... IDK how it could be policed, but it's hard to defend against as the current rules stand. 
    QB's fake running and then go down to draw the hit as well.  When I say QBs, I don't mean Josh Allen.  I'm not sure how you get rid of that, but it needs to be gone.  

    Are you insinuating Josh Allen hasn't flopped to try to gain 15 yards?


    okay okay I'm sure it has happened.  But you know Josh Allen brings the body.  He doesn't seem to be the most likely culprit.  I'm no Bills fan either.  
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