3M Ordered - No N95 Masks to Canada

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
    I don't think that is the way you want to play it with dummy trumpy.  He would like another distraction or enemy.
    I wouldn't blame you, though.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    edited April 2020
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,313
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    Jeez. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,866
    Yeah don't get carried away.  
    Was he wrong - is he wrong - yes.  He sucks.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,526
    edited April 2020
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    Don't forget France and others too.


    Millions of protective masks do not reach Sweden - stopped in France

    Four million protective masks that the Swedish company Mölnlycke imported from China have been stopped in France
    - It is extremely disturbing. None of what we send into France can be sent out of the country, says Mölnlyckes CEO Richard Twomey to Sweden's Radio Ekot.
    Restrictions in several countries
    Some of the masks, which were stopped on March 5, would go on to Italy and Spain where the corona virus has spread widely. But France introduced a rule just a few days earlier that the country has the right to seize products that can be used in the fight against the corona virus.
    - It's not just in France that products are stuck. It's about a handful of countries, says Jenny Johansson, press officer at Mölnlycke to SVT News West.


    This crisis really let the best come out of some countries. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,576
    If it makes anyone feel better, it happens within our borders, too. MA had procured 3 million masks and they got seized by the feds. Presumably to go to even hotter spots like NYC? That was the impetus for having the Krafts round up a million on their own (if anyone saw that story).

    On one hand, I'm sympathetic to shifting supplies where they're needed immediately. But that requires a lot of agility and trust, as places that are relatively ok today could be brushfires tomorrow. And unfortunately most of us don't have confidence in either of those things as it relates to our current federal government. (You could lump a couple other countries in there, too.)

    This seems like an extraordinarily difficult thing to manage and, based on everything I'm reading, we seem to be falling flat on our face.
  • 1ThoughtKnown
    1ThoughtKnown Posts: 6,155
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    This statement is factually incorrect. To my American friends... this is not the sentiment of most Canadians.  My anger is directed mainly at Trump, the Republicans and anyone who no would vote for someone of such low moral character. Do we all have flaws? Yes.  Even great leaders... but they were LEADERS. This guy is not.
  • YAKIMATSU
    YAKIMATSU Santa Fe Posts: 1,136
    Really its almost hilarious. “We are Republicans and believe in a free market capitalist society! It’s worth what someone will pay for it! No matter where in the world we will sell it/buy it”

    Pandemic happens - “That was made in the US and sold to Canada? No way... we need those. You can’t sell those! They have to stay here.”
    All if sudden Republicans are lead by a true socialist. All companies are run by the state. He really is getting advice from Putin. Oh yeah and Alex Rodriguez.  
    Normally,  I would say get out of my head. Happy to have company. A party that beleives in the sanctity of life advocates against abortion and for the death penalty doesn't understand the concept of hypocrisy.  It's never been about human life though has it? It's about controlling other humans bodies and what they do with them and this is just a continuation of that.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    This statement is factually incorrect. To my American friends... this is not the sentiment of most Canadians.  My anger is directed mainly at Trump, the Republicans and anyone who no would vote for someone of such low moral character. Do we all have flaws? Yes.  Even great leaders... but they were LEADERS. This guy is not.
    I agree with this. Meltdown is not representative of how anyone I know feels in Canada.

    It's ridiculous and extreme.

  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,313
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    This statement is factually incorrect. To my American friends... this is not the sentiment of most Canadians.  My anger is directed mainly at Trump, the Republicans and anyone who no would vote for someone of such low moral character. Do we all have flaws? Yes.  Even great leaders... but they were LEADERS. This guy is not.
    Nice post. Thanks 👍🏼 (Not sArcastic) 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    Don't forget France and others too.


    Millions of protective masks do not reach Sweden - stopped in France

    Four million protective masks that the Swedish company Mölnlycke imported from China have been stopped in France
    - It is extremely disturbing. None of what we send into France can be sent out of the country, says Mölnlyckes CEO Richard Twomey to Sweden's Radio Ekot.
    Restrictions in several countries
    Some of the masks, which were stopped on March 5, would go on to Italy and Spain where the corona virus has spread widely. But France introduced a rule just a few days earlier that the country has the right to seize products that can be used in the fight against the corona virus.
    - It's not just in France that products are stuck. It's about a handful of countries, says Jenny Johansson, press officer at Mölnlycke to SVT News West.


    This crisis really let the best come out of some countries. 
    Yes.  Agreed.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,763
    mace1229 said:
    I really don’t get why this is so horrible. Every time I turn on the news they talk about how short we are in supplies. Doctors are reusing dirty masks. People are making them in their garage in who-knows what kind of sanitary conditions to donate them. If we can’t make enough for even ourselves, why would we export any?
    If you were behind in your bills and about to lose your house and car due to lack of payments, would you loan a friend money? That doesn’t make you a bad friend if you don’t.

    This is really a terrible analogy. The US doesn't own these masks, and they are not lending or giving them to other countries out of the goodness of their little heart. 3M is a multinational corporation that makes products that it sells around the world. The masks destined for Canada were ordered and purchased as per applicable laws and trade agreements, just like the US purchases goods and raw materials from Canada. 

    Furthermore, 3M only makes about a third of their masks in the US. Trump at this point wants all the masks manufactured in the US, as well as masks manufactured elsewhere. Guess what - some of those other countries don't particularly like these tactics and are already starting to talk about not allowing masks, or other essential products, manufactured there to go to the US, so the US may well end up with fewer masks than you would have if you had just behaved like reasonable, humanitarian minded citizens during a global crisis. 

    And I don't know if this last bit is true, but I just read that some of the raw materials for the 3M masks made in the US come from Canada. I wonder if they still will. 

    It's in times of crises like these that true colours really come out. 
    Thanks for pointing that out yeah nothing wrong with taking other countries shippements actually steeling from other countries, again fuck this administration specially the head idiot!
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    This statement is factually incorrect. To my American friends... this is not the sentiment of most Canadians.  My anger is directed mainly at Trump, the Republicans and anyone who no would vote for someone of such low moral character. Do we all have flaws? Yes.  Even great leaders... but they were LEADERS. This guy is not.
    Are you sure?  Because I can assure that you do not speak for most Canadians.  Maybe you should fact check past administrations...O’Bama through us under the bus causing us to foot the 5 billion dollar bill for the new bridge between Detroit and Windsor, oh Bush failing to acknowledge the great citizens of gander after 911...give me a break...and on and on...America is not our friend.

    Like I have already said.  Ontario manufacturers will meet the challenge and take care of us in Ontario and Canada...
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,763
    If I’m any other sovereign nation I don’t trust America at all we’ve become the bullies of the playgrounds and it’s disgusting! 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If I’m any other sovereign nation I don’t trust America at all we’ve become the bullies of the playgrounds and it’s disgusting! 
    I agree.  But America has been the world's biggest bully for decades...the world is littered with dead bodies caused by America and their bullshit.  Time for Canada to retaliate...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,313
    If I’m any other sovereign nation I don’t trust America at all we’ve become the bullies of the playgrounds and it’s disgusting! 
    I agree.  But America has been the world's biggest bully for decades...the world is littered with dead bodies caused by America and their bullshit.  Time for Canada to retaliate...
    Retaliate? What the fuck are you talking about. Chill the fuck out 
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The US during a crisis:



    They also "stole" masks from France and Canada in China. 


    Can you name 1 world crisis in which America has not thrown at least some of their allies under...every US President is a war criminal and the US has been raping and pillaging other countries since their birth...
    This statement is factually incorrect. To my American friends... this is not the sentiment of most Canadians.  My anger is directed mainly at Trump, the Republicans and anyone who no would vote for someone of such low moral character. Do we all have flaws? Yes.  Even great leaders... but they were LEADERS. This guy is not.
    Did you have this much scorn for Trudeau who gave China 16 tons of PPE in February...you know China, the country that has been bitch-slapping Canada ever since we arrested that Chinese bitch...you wanna get even with Trump.  Put her on a plane and deliver her to China with the promise that China will release our two citizens and start to normalize relations...


    Give Peas A Chance…
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,871
    nicknyr15 said:
    If I’m any other sovereign nation I don’t trust America at all we’ve become the bullies of the playgrounds and it’s disgusting! 
    I agree.  But America has been the world's biggest bully for decades...the world is littered with dead bodies caused by America and their bullshit.  Time for Canada to retaliate...
    Retaliate? What the fuck are you talking about. Chill the fuck out 
    Hahahaha. Wonder what the retaliation is?
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