3M Ordered - No N95 Masks to Canada

Halifax2TheMax

F Me In The Brain said:

blueandwhite said:

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that the US is looking to block the export of respirators to Canada and Mexico. As a Canadian, I think it's important to remember that the US is a political neighbour and not necessarily an ally of friend to Canada. America has its own concerns and it is unsurprising that they they would put their interests first. There isn't much point for Canada to retaliate however as we are a smaller country and the US can completely steamroll us if we decide to play hardball. Even if the 500 thousand respirators that are being held up do manage to get through I don't think we should be expecting any more shipments, whether we have paid for them or not. Canadians need to stop pretending that Americans are our allies, business partners or friends. We are a satellite nation. We need the US far more than they need us and Canadians need to remember that most Americans couldn't care less about their neighbours to the North or South.

As someone that grew up in a border state (VT) I even love people from Quebec.  (!!!). Lol

Seriously, though, I have made many friends over the years and consider Canada to be a great neighbor of ours.  Love Canada.

Ok, not as much Mexico.  .  

Oh but I’m sure you know someone who thinks the world of Mexico, tequila and medians notwithstanding, now don’t you?

F Me In The Brain

Halifax2TheMax said:

F Me In The Brain said:

blueandwhite said:

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that the US is looking to block the export of respirators to Canada and Mexico. As a Canadian, I think it's important to remember that the US is a political neighbour and not necessarily an ally of friend to Canada. America has its own concerns and it is unsurprising that they they would put their interests first. There isn't much point for Canada to retaliate however as we are a smaller country and the US can completely steamroll us if we decide to play hardball. Even if the 500 thousand respirators that are being held up do manage to get through I don't think we should be expecting any more shipments, whether we have paid for them or not. Canadians need to stop pretending that Americans are our allies, business partners or friends. We are a satellite nation. We need the US far more than they need us and Canadians need to remember that most Americans couldn't care less about their neighbours to the North or South.

As someone that grew up in a border state (VT) I even love people from Quebec.  (!!!). Lol

Seriously, though, I have made many friends over the years and consider Canada to be a great neighbor of ours.  Love Canada.

Ok, not as much Mexico.  .  

Oh but I’m sure you know someone who thinks the world of Mexico, tequila and medians notwithstanding, now don’t you?

Yes, I'm sure I know such people.  
I like some things Mexican as well.  Living so close to TJ for 20 years I experienced some crappy things.  Other parts/people have been amazing.

mcgruff10

Seems like India has the same idea:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/half-us-hydroxychloroquine-supply-drug-182238902.html

Half of the US hydroxychloroquine supply — the drug Trump touts as a possible coronavirus treatment — has been abruptly cut off

The US has abruptly lost about half its incoming supply of hydroxychloroquine, the drug President Donald Trump touts with little evidence as a drug to fight COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine is normally used to treat and ward off the symptoms for malaria, arthritis, and lupus. Much of it is developed in India, which on Saturday banned its export, according to Bloomberg News.

India provided about 47% of the US's supply, according to data from 2019 analyzed by Bloomberg News, and just a "handful" of the US suppliers of the drug are based outside of the country.

At a press conference on Saturday, President Trump said a request to India to release shipments of the drug that had already been ordered was under "serious consideration." The outright ban was announced by India's Directorate General of Foreign Trade on April 4, although the country had already limited exports of the drug prior to the Saturday ban. 

The president as recently as a Sunday press conference has said he believes the drug should be used against COVID-19. He's even implied he might take it himself as a preventative measure.

"It's a powerful drug on malaria, and there are scientific works on this. Some strong signs," Trump said Sunday, adding that the US had a stockpile of over 29 million hydroxychloroquine pills that could be used.

"What do you have to lose?" he has said repeatedly, despite the medication's potential side effects and its unproven effects on COVID-19 patients. Clinical trials are currently underway. 

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and member of the White House Coronavirus Tasks Force, has multiple times said the evidence on the drug is unproven despite the president's claims. It is still undergoing clinical trials for treating COVID-19.

"In terms of science, I don't think we could definitively say it works," Fauci said during an appearance on CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. 

When a reporter at a press briefing on Sunday asked Fauci to answer questions about the drug, the president refused to allow him to answer, moving the press conference toward a different topic.  

"He answered that question 15 times," Trump said.

Erin Fox, a drug-shortage expert and the senior pharmacy director for the University of Utah's health system told Business Insider in March that a shortage of the drug could spell trouble for those who need it.

"People rely on this medication," Fox said. "They have chronic illnesses, and they really rely on this. Once you're stable on these therapies, it's not something that is easy to switch."

India's ban on exports will likely increase prices of the medication short-term and limit supply in the long run, Bloomberg reported. The ban is aimed at ensuring the country has enough access to the drug for its own citizens, according to the report.

Read the original article on Business Insider

myoung321

1ThoughtKnown said:

myoung321 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

myoung321 said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

Really its almost hilarious. “We are Republicans and believe in a free market capitalist society! It’s worth what someone will pay for it! No matter where in the world we will sell it/buy it”

Pandemic happens - “That was made in the US and sold to Canada? No way... we need those. You can’t sell those! They have to stay here.”
All if sudden Republicans are lead by a true socialist. All companies are run by the state. He really is getting advice from Putin. Oh yeah and Alex Rodriguez.  

Check out our Healthcare System if you think companies don't run things,,

 Putin a Socialist?  good one!! Putin's ideology is using his political power to make him and his friends rich.. Like Trump 

Putin is a socialist.
Socialism is a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

As Lenin explained.. Socialism (in its truest sense) is the step prior to communism. The logic was a jump straight to communism would not be readily accepted. The Putin form of socialism is flawed as he is an authoritarian and corrupt.  The community as a whole is the government, but it is not run in the best interest of the people, but of Putin and his oligarch. It’s a giant scam on the Russian people. 

You are right. It’s a good one. 

Oligarchs and Putin own the means of production, distribution and exchange...   Did you read this before posting? haha

 

 

I suggest you worry less about me reading what I wrote and read some more yourself. Just because some oligarchs get rich does not indicate the political ideology behind Putin is not socialist. 

Good thing we have that amazing Capitalism for means of production during this pandemic.  Oh wait... right.... they sold that out to Communist China so they could land products cheaper without paying AMERICAN WORKERS... 

oftenreading

Ottawa reports progress in talks with U.S. over medical supplies as 3M strikes deal to send masks to Canada

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mask-3m-dispute-trudeau-1.5523414

Hmmmm. That doesn't sound like it was all an overblown misunderstanding. 

Spiritual_Chaos

mcgruff10 said:

Seems like India has the same idea:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/half-us-hydroxychloroquine-supply-drug-182238902.html

Half of the US hydroxychloroquine supply — the drug Trump touts as a possible coronavirus treatment — has been abruptly cut off

The US has abruptly lost about half its incoming supply of hydroxychloroquine, the drug President Donald Trump touts with little evidence as a drug to fight COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine is normally used to treat and ward off the symptoms for malaria, arthritis, and lupus. Much of it is developed in India, which on Saturday banned its export, according to Bloomberg News.

India provided about 47% of the US's supply, according to data from 2019 analyzed by Bloomberg News, and just a "handful" of the US suppliers of the drug are based outside of the country.

At a press conference on Saturday, President Trump said a request to India to release shipments of the drug that had already been ordered was under "serious consideration." The outright ban was announced by India's Directorate General of Foreign Trade on April 4, although the country had already limited exports of the drug prior to the Saturday ban. 

The president as recently as a Sunday press conference has said he believes the drug should be used against COVID-19. He's even implied he might take it himself as a preventative measure.

"It's a powerful drug on malaria, and there are scientific works on this. Some strong signs," Trump said Sunday, adding that the US had a stockpile of over 29 million hydroxychloroquine pills that could be used.

"What do you have to lose?" he has said repeatedly, despite the medication's potential side effects and its unproven effects on COVID-19 patients. Clinical trials are currently underway. 

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and member of the White House Coronavirus Tasks Force, has multiple times said the evidence on the drug is unproven despite the president's claims. It is still undergoing clinical trials for treating COVID-19.

"In terms of science, I don't think we could definitively say it works," Fauci said during an appearance on CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. 

When a reporter at a press briefing on Sunday asked Fauci to answer questions about the drug, the president refused to allow him to answer, moving the press conference toward a different topic.  

"He answered that question 15 times," Trump said.

Erin Fox, a drug-shortage expert and the senior pharmacy director for the University of Utah's health system told Business Insider in March that a shortage of the drug could spell trouble for those who need it.

"People rely on this medication," Fox said. "They have chronic illnesses, and they really rely on this. Once you're stable on these therapies, it's not something that is easy to switch."

India's ban on exports will likely increase prices of the medication short-term and limit supply in the long run, Bloomberg reported. The ban is aimed at ensuring the country has enough access to the drug for its own citizens, according to the report.

Read the original article on Business Insider

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