More Important: Beating Trump or Stopping Bernie?

1111214161727

Comments

  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Beating Trump in the fall
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,411
    Beating Trump in the fall
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Beating Trump in the fall
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    Beating Trump in the fall
    https://twitter.com/antonioschell9/status/1245317659442294785?s=21
    Not now daddy dearest!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    May I remind everyone that Bernie is still not a registered Democrat and not a member of the Democratic Party.  He only pledged to serve as a Democrat if elected.  Which is totes not the same.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    May I remind everyone of:

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”
    “No quid pro quo.”
    “Imminent threat.”
    “I thought he was Israeli.”

    And “Russia if you’re listening,” and there’s no way social media could have possibly influenced an election in three key swing states by approximately 66,000 votes combined.



    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Has Biden dropped out yet?

    Someone, quick, wake him up and pump him full of adderall. He needs to drop out NOW.

    Biden being in the race is hurting Sanders and helping Trump.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Oh look
    Now Bernie is calling to delay the WI primary after he got his ass handed to him during the last round of primaries.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-wisconsin-sanders-idUSKBN21J67M

    Not calling for mail voting like the rest of the party, trying to upend democracy instead. 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    Oh look
    Now Bernie is calling to delay the WI primary after he got his ass handed to him during the last round of primaries.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-wisconsin-sanders-idUSKBN21J67M

    Not calling for mail voting like the rest of the party, trying to upend democracy instead. 


    lol. Bernie already told to go pound sand.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/04/01/judge-signals-he-expand-voting-but-not-delay-wisconsins-election/5097887002/

    At least one branch of government appears to still be functioning in Wisconsin.  Thanks Judge!
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    May I remind everyone that Bernie is still not a registered Democrat and not a member of the Democratic Party.  He only pledged to serve as a Democrat if elected.  Which is totes not the same.
    Are you really that party petty to give an actual fuck? Who better/best represents democratic ideals? 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,076
    Beating Trump in the fall
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    May I remind everyone of:

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”
    “No quid pro quo.”
    “Imminent threat.”
    “I thought he was Israeli.”

    And “Russia if you’re listening,” and there’s no way social media could have possibly influenced an election in three key swing states by approximately 66,000 votes combined.



    And these things have hurt Trump how? Besides outraging Democrats that wouldn’t vote for him anyway.  People underestimate how racist and backwards some people are even those you wouldn’t otherwise think. People also underestimate how many people actually want to be told what to do and see people being told what to do with an authoritarian strongman flair.  

    If Bernie is useful for anyone it is more for the Democratic Party to have a patsy to blame everything on for not finding a stronger candidate to run if Biden should lose.

    very easy to blame Bernie. Very hard to field a candidate that inspires people that wouldn’t normally vote to get out and do it.

    fuck let’s just blame Bernie right up until 24 because the Democratic Party couldn’t possibly do more and has obviously done everything they possibly can.  BernieBlamers 
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    May I remind everyone of:

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”
    “No quid pro quo.”
    “Imminent threat.”
    “I thought he was Israeli.”

    And “Russia if you’re listening,” and there’s no way social media could have possibly influenced an election in three key swing states by approximately 66,000 votes combined.



    And these things have hurt Trump how? Besides outraging Democrats that wouldn’t vote for him anyway.  People underestimate how racist and backwards some people are even those you wouldn’t otherwise think. People also underestimate how many people actually want to be told what to do and see people being told what to do with an authoritarian strongman flair.  

    If Bernie is useful for anyone it is more for the Democratic Party to have a patsy to blame everything on for not finding a stronger candidate to run if Biden should lose.

    very easy to blame Bernie. Very hard to field a candidate that inspires people that wouldn’t normally vote to get out and do it.

    fuck let’s just blame Bernie right up until 24 because the Democratic Party couldn’t possibly do more and has obviously done everything they possibly can.  BernieBlamers 
    Exactly. If Biden wins, Bernie will get no credit for helping to bring new voters into the fold (and you know he’ll do more campaigning for Biden than Biden will for himself) and if Biden loses, they’ll blame it on Bernie. It’s fucking pathetic.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,589
    Beating Trump in the fall
    CM189191 said:
    Thanks..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,162
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    static111 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:


    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    What has that to do with not knowing what the hell he is saying?

    This speech impediment showed up sometime between the 2012 debates and now?


    I look forward to your full throated Biden endorsement after Biden outperforms tRUmp in the presidential debates
    Why not answer instead for your little stump speech?

    I find it amusing all the nonsense about Biden's gaffes.  It might actually mean something if Trump weren't a festival of gaffes and lies virtually every day.   I mean, when is this incompetent game-show-host not gaffing and/or lying?

    Let's assume Biden has dementia, for the sake of argument:
    Biden could forget 99% of what he knows about running federal government, and still be way ahead of tRUmp
    and he has the benefit of not being an unmitigated asshole

    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." One of the things he really fails at is not having Trump's skill at projecting his faults onto others.
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment in your response..?

    Even with him forgetting 100% he would be better than Trump.
    This is nothing new. Biden has been making gaffes for decades. Not a big deal, just part of his "charm." 
    Don't see any explanation for this new speech impediment you brought up in your post..?

    I didn't bring it up.  Just let it go, you're embarrassing yourself.
    CM189191 said:

    you know Biden has a speech impediment, right?
    Yeah, who is embarrassing oneself?

    And lying btw.


    Biden has has a speech impediment all his life....this isn't new

    You keep saying it is new, it isn't.

    This is the third time I've said it isn't new. 

    Is this getting lost in translation somewhere?


    Not a fan of Biden, but I will back you up that this speech impediment is a well documented (since boyhood) issue. People coming out of the woodwork with Biden conspiracies.  
    I do have problems with Biden but gaffes aren’t one.  I agree with you that at this point in the game it is too late for Bernie, but I just really wish that the Democratic Party had come up with anyone besides a longtime party loyalist.  I’m feeling shades of Kerry ‘04 where the party thinks it’s all about beating the other guy and doesn’t realize that it is just as important to have a candidate with charisma that excites people outside the base.  

    Which is exactly why Bernie needs to drop out and support Biden.  Bernie was a lackluster politician.  But he had undeniable charisma and can whip people into a frenzy.  

    At what point is Bernie just causing damage to his own progressive agenda?  Because the choices are Biden or tRUmp.  Spoiler alert: tRUmp ain't gonna implement anything that's remotely resembles universal health care. 
    That’s hardly a spoiler lol.  He did recently implement short term UBI so maybe he is moving to the left 🙄. It’s going to be difficult for anyone to beat Trump since all campaigning is pretty much on hold and all the focus is on DJT and his response. 

    the 2016 presidential election was decided by about 77,000 votes out of than 136 million ballots cast.
    Trump won Pennsylvania by 0.7 percentage points (44,292 votes)
    Wisconsin by 0.7 points (22,748 votes)
    Michigan by 0.2 points (10,704 votes).

    If my math is right, that's 566 people for every 1 million voters in the US

    According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    there are currently 573 confirmed C19 cases / 1 million people in the US

    Given the United State's  "It only matters when it affects me personally" mentality - when this is all over, virtually everyone is going to personally know someone who was directly affected by this.  I've already had one client (and her family) who have it; and expect more. 

    At the rate this thing affecting people, the GOP is gonna lose Florida (in more ways than one).
    Stop with the reasoning and facts. Just stop.
    We know that republicans can't  deal with common sense, easily verifiable facts, and reasoning.
    Is this an issue for burnie supporters as well?
    May I remind everyone of 2016 wherein the Democratic Party was so sure of reasoning and facts and against all projections to the contrary we got Trump.  But by all means let’s shame each other into defeat again. 🤦‍♂️
    May I remind everyone of:

    “There was no collusion.”
    “I have nothing to hide.”
    “I don’t know any Russians.”
    “I’ll sit down and talk with anyone.”
    “We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”
    “Essentially no obstruction.”
    “Very friendly and totally appropriate.”
    “No quid pro quo.”
    “Imminent threat.”
    “I thought he was Israeli.”

    And “Russia if you’re listening,” and there’s no way social media could have possibly influenced an election in three key swing states by approximately 66,000 votes combined.



    And these things have hurt Trump how? Besides outraging Democrats that wouldn’t vote for him anyway.  People underestimate how racist and backwards some people are even those you wouldn’t otherwise think. People also underestimate how many people actually want to be told what to do and see people being told what to do with an authoritarian strongman flair.  

    If Bernie is useful for anyone it is more for the Democratic Party to have a patsy to blame everything on for not finding a stronger candidate to run if Biden should lose.

    very easy to blame Bernie. Very hard to field a candidate that inspires people that wouldn’t normally vote to get out and do it.

    fuck let’s just blame Bernie right up until 24 because the Democratic Party couldn’t possibly do more and has obviously done everything they possibly can.  BernieBlamers 
    Reality check, Bernie's message isn't resonating with DEMOCRATS in a primary and you think its going to resonate with indies and repubs? I do blame Bernie as his "social democrat" ideals and message are fairy land, pie in the sky and don't have a chance in hell, whether he's the party's nominee or not. Team Trump Treason would clean his clock with a message of "how do you expect Big Business to respond to a pandemic if they've been nothing but vilified and scapegoated for all of society's ills for the past two years, or Bernie's whole political career." Why is this so hard for the Berniebrosises to understand and rather than work with a Biden Administration to move left, they'll prefer four more years of Team Trump Treason, I guess hoping for things to get so bad the country will finally buy what Bernie is selling. It'll never happen.


    If Bernie's very narrow path to the nomination becomes a reality, I'll vote for him. But I will do so knowing we've lost again and Team Trump Treason gets re-elected in a landslide. Can the Berniebrosises say the same?
    09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;

    Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.

    Brilliantati©
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    If not for this pandemic, I’d be all for Bernie staying in as long as he likes. But it’s all-but-over, nobody wants to go to the polls anyway with the virus, so he should just end it. Clip-Clop keep mentioning that he’s not even a Democrat, which is true, but be thankful at least he played ball and went through the Democratic primary. He could’ve told the DNC to fuck off, wait for the general, run as an independent, and fuck up everything. But he didn’t. So that’s good. You’re getting Biden/Trump in the general election whether Bernie drops out today or next month, so I don’t see the need to keep complaining about him. He’s a non-factor at this point. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

    Pearl Jam bootlegs:
    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
  • EarlWelsh
    EarlWelsh Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,127
    Biden needs to drop out now and let the man with an actual stance, one that will help us out of this crisis and to recover from the aftermath, handle Trump like the little bitch that he is.

    Lack of actual stance and “gaffes” (they’re not gaffes——he says literal nonsense or altogether just forgets what he is saying) aside, he is an accused rapist. Whether he did it or not, unfortunately does not matter. It can’t be proven one way or another. Try to sweep it under the rug but there’s way too many people out there who see how inappropriate he is with women and children IN FRONT of a camera, and can only imagine what a creep he can be in private.

    Get with the fucking picture and stand with Bernie.
This discussion has been closed.